Post heroin blues

[Zaka99]

Hi,

I have recently been using a moderate amount of heroin (about .4g a day, IVing) for about 2 days a week then stopping for 5 days in order not to fall too deeply into addiction (having been addicted to heroin previously and stopped altogether for a period of about 2 years). This has been working okay for about four months or so without any real physical withdrawal symptoms being noticeable. What is noticeable though is my mental\emotional state of being is starting to hit a real low when I stop using/the high wears off. Not just a mild case of the the blues but a real horrid state of depression and sometimes anxiety without any distinct cause. This manifests in lowish energy, not wanting to get up out of bed at all, feeling hopeless, dark and low. It subsides after about 2-3 days then I am fine but it always come back when I stop using the heroin. I don't recall feeling like this at all on heroin withdrawals before, just the physical aspects. Has anyone else had similar issues? Physically I am fine but mentally not; it is making me consider quitting the drug altogether. I take Zopiclone (7.5mg) and Olanzapine (5mg) per day too but have never noticed any real issues with these drugs.

Thanks, Zaka

 

[Muzda Jonxx]

Sounds entirely normal to me. Physical withdrawal is only half the battle (if that) when it comes to opiates. Do I take them more for the physical high or the mental one..? Mental, I think. Funnily enough, I'm in a similar situation today. I would quit the H now before you drink any further into the quagmire. Ignore the sirens call. That's what I've been feeling and telling myself this afternoon.

 

[Zaka99]

Yeh the physical side is very mild but this mental\emotional depression is a killer. I have not known anything like it and don't recall it when I came off a pretty heavy H habit a few years ago. That maybe because the physical symptoms at the time were so bad though. I agree with the fact that the physical side isn't the only problem, the real issues are mental/emotional/spiritual. As has been said to me previously, stopping isn't the real issue, it is staying stopped. I think I was just reading your thread on poppy tea. I have heard and used vit C in megadoses to help with withdrawals and can report it to be one on the best substances I have used in withdrawals. I have never heard of poppy tea addiction though. Do you pick that up in health food stores here in the UK. I wonder if it would stave off H withdrawals if used correctly or do you see it as just another dangerous opiate? Thoughts on this welcome?

 

[Muzda Jonxx]

Yeh the physical side is very mild but this mental\emotional depression is a killer. I have not known anything like it and don't recall it when I came off a pretty heavy H habit a few years ago. That maybe because the physical symptoms at the time were so bad though. I agree with the fact that the physical side isn't the only problem, the real issues are mental/emotional/spiritual. As has been said to me previously, stopping isn't the real issue, it is staying stopped. I think I was just reading your thread on poppy tea. I have heard and used vit C in megadoses to help with withdrawals and can report it to be one on the best substances I have used in withdrawals. I have never heard of poppy tea addiction though. Do you pick that up in health food stores here in the UK. I wonder if it would stave off H withdrawals if used correctly or do you see it as just another dangerous opiate? Thoughts on this welcome?

Yeah, I can either buy poppy pods (for flower arranging) from the Interweb, or just go to the supermarket and buy 400g of poppy seeds. It's basically oral opium. I wouldn't recommend starting, although it is amusing to tell the therapist you're completely addicted to baking ingredients! :D

Glad to hear you had good experience from the vit C thing too, the evidence is amassing...