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Possible to use psychedelics to dig yourself out of depression?

Captaindammit

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So is this possible? I have pretty much had major depression/anxiety since the teen years. I don't really have much psychedelic experience. I have done a lot of DXM but I don't find it very useful for "soul searching" I have always just gone with the flow when using it though.

Every person I have ever met that has done LSD or does it on a regular basis seems very free spirited and outgoing. I really don't like who I am or what I have become (isolated, depressed, etc).

I understand going into psychedelics with a bad mindset is #1 on the do not do list. But having countless terrifying DXM experiences I am confident I will make it through any trip OK.

This isn't a should I or shouldn't I thread. I am simply wondering if psychedelics (going to start easy with LSA and move shrooms/LSD when possible) can change your mindset for the better and help me find out who I am and what I want to do with my life. Or am I just hoping for something that isn't going to happen?
 
It depends on what your stance on the psychedelic experience is. If you know the true nature of taking a psychedelic then you can cure yourself of depression yes, but if you think they just "fuck you up" or don't take the experience as a serious ordeal that needs lots of researching then I wouldn't suggest it.

Also DXM is a different type of psych...I have always hated dissociatives myself. I would try
2c-i or something else "lite" if you do go on and trip.
 
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LSD in my opinion is a very comforatable psychedelic. It is also insightful. LSA on the other hand has a world of nasea associated with it, which in the situation of trying to overcome depression could become pretty overwhelming. I would say start with a low dose of acid, and design the trip for the purpose of insight. If you must have a sitter (I sometime find company a hinderance to insight) just have a friend sort of on call. In other words ready to be a sitter if needed, otherwise I'd say take a hit or two alone in the right setting and explore your psyche and issues alone. Also, psychedelics are not typically the best escapist drug. So if thats what your looking for, keep looking. If on the other hand you want insight and are ready for a possibly intense, even overwhelming (all the really valuable trips are) experience to sort your life out then yeah, go for it.
 
I don't have much to any experience so take my 2¢ lightly:

I would recommend doing it in a comfortable yet social environment. Like at a friends house. Have a 'designated driver' of sorts aka someone who you can trust you life with. This helps A LOT.

Have a 'nest' of sorts or basically a chill space where you can relax away from stress like a back room where you will not have to deal with a random person knocking on the front door or anything unnerving.

Also, plan ahead an 'anchor' or something you will enjoy/relax to keep your mind away from anxiety like the simpsons, planet earth, relaxing music, ... anything.


I'm not quite sure if the words I mentioned above or normally used or something I randomly made up. *shrugs* I've only tripped on shrooms so ...

Fighting ones inner daemons is a battle that you can loose. If you're to stressed out you can spend an entire night hundled in a corner freaking out, or you can have great friends who help you think happy thoughts and keep you busy away from the stress.

I wouldn't recommend it while you're stressed out but it could be used while you're in a good mood and can help to work out issues you might not have considered before..

again, i'm inexperiences so take everything I say as potentially wrong.
 
They allow you to analyze you life from a different often spiritual perspective.

You can reflect on your problems while under the influence and come out of the experience with a new look on things.

Different psychs give you different perspectives.

Chicken soup for the soul!
 
It's possible.

But of course higher end psychedelics such as mescaline and DMT have been found to have the most life-changing effects on people.

But I find that with recently treating myself therapeutically with low doses of acid (no idea what chemical exactly it is, but it's most likely DOx) I can work out some of the issues the have been plaguing me and overcome other problems in my life. It's like reaching enlightenment, it really is.

Want more shrooms though. In low doses they are much more like MDMA and we all know that has been proven to take people out of depression with some therapeutic sessions.

I got a free bag of leftovers from a friend last year, and I was popping small shroom caps (~1") as effective happy pills... I mean really happy, and just for about 3 hours or so.
 
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There isnt any certain path to get you out of depression other then your own clear mind,your own straight values.Psychedelics might confuse you even more if you start to use them like this...imo dissociatives are much better for self exploration and introspection and the best results for treating depression/myself projection into the near tangible reality ive had while tripping balls on a 3rd plateau on DXM...but that could be just me.As for tryptamines...i dived into this wonderful world after facing a divorce and family problems,the begining was really mentally challenging,like feeling flooded with thoughts that werent even mine,confusing,dieing,rebirth then dieing again...I found myself now in some weird state of mind,where I simply arrange my thinking patterns into do`s and dont`s ,wich is even easier to do on dissociatives because they minimize the emotional aspect around you and tend to make you more rational even tho you could slip into some egocentric self-centered world.I wish you good luck exploring your mind,make sure you find out who you REALLY are and take it from there :)
 
Yes, it definitely is. However, it's not a surefire thing and can be dangerous. Psychedelics are all what you make of them... if you have a difficult, uncomfortable, or terrifying experience it can later turn out to be the most beneficial trip of your life. But in a depressed state it can be hard to see things in that way. Personally I have used psychedelics to dig out of a growing years-long depression state, back in 2005, right before I joined BL actually. There are two relevant trip reports on Erowid... maybe the best thing to do is just to post those so you can read about my thought process. I used 2C-T-2 and it really helped me to go inside of myself and view my ego as multiple separate personalities, all interacting with each other. I found out that parts of myself were working against other parts of myself and it was causing me to feel anxious and depressed... once I saw this, I understood how it was happening and it gave me the knowledge to be able to hold myself in check during my daily life, and I was successfully able to become happy and I have not fallen back into real depression since... just little periods that everyone probably has sometimes, especially in the winter for me. But the period that 2C-T-2 helped me out of was years of constantly feeling down and uninspired.

First trip

Second trip
 
I think this is an important topic, because not only did I try it, but I witnessed a friend and a family member try it as well.

I personally don't think psychedelics can 'fix' you. They can maybe help you get in touch with where you are in life. And that may be more or less depressing than you thought it was.

Much has been written on what makes people happy, and it's mostly intuitive. Good friends, engaged and interested in your life, exercise, and stuff like that. If you have a good life but feel depressed, I believe taking psychedelics may naturally shift your focus from any lingering malaise to positivity.

However, if you're in a negative place in life, succumbing to a shitty routine, living through passive consumption of media, not engaged in creating your environment and stuff like that-- then I believe psychs may not help you, and in fact may show you that you're more depressed than you had thought.
 
When I first tried shrooms, it was my first-ever psychedelic experience. I took them and I realized that I was depressed. I just didn't know before. I thought being so numb, inactive, sad and isolated was normal. My first shroom trip made me realize that I wasn't doing what I wanted to be. It made me realize that I can change my life if I change how I live. I started going out more, made more friends, and generally became a happier person because of the things that I did after my shroom trip. You'll notice I don't attribute these changes to the trip itself. Shrooms didn't cure (and diagnose) my depression, but they gave me the perspective I needed to take the actions that would cure it with time.

Psychedelics aren't a treatment, they are a catalyst. The reaction they spark can fizzle out just as easily as it can yield the greatest heights of self-knowledge and acceptance.

If you've got a close friend, one with whom you can talk about anything, trip with them as a sitter. If you don't have that luxury (I didn't) then trip alone or with one of these shiny acid people you mentioned (both of you trip). People like that tend to be understanding about these things, and you might become close friends by the end of the experience.

Psychs don't change your mindset, they unsettle your mind. How you reassemble it is up to you.
 
I'd get your BEST friend on the planet and dose them and yourself on MDMA so you can talk about what's getting you down and think up plans to sort them out. It's hard to have a bad MDMA experience (although I've witnessed one firsthand) and talking is so easy on the substance. Just mind the next few days, they'd be rough.
 
I recommend DMT for this use.

smoke a huge dose, be amazed for 15 minutes, in total awe.

Then be back to normal only having a much greater appreciation for life and the ability to experience something like DMT.

With DMT even if you do have a "bad trip" its over in 15 minutes, But the lasting positivity after experiencing a possitive DMT trip will last well into the next day.

I believe daily DMT use IS THE ULTIMATE ANTIDEPRESSANT.
 
I've suffered from major depression and mania for over a decade now, and *the* most beneficial drug I've taken has been DXM. I didn't always experience epiphanal moments like LSD and Psilocybin can produce. The serotonergics can take you to the summit, but drop you into the pit afterwards. This is really bad for people like me who suffer from bipolar disorder. DXM, OTOH, can settle your mind and bring you peace without tipping you over, if used responsibly. But it seems this wasn't your experience.

Maybe the traditional psychedelics like LSD, mushrooms and DMT are what you need. These drugs have been mostly unavailable to me, which is probably a good thing in my case. With the power to regulate my emotions, I have been able to avoid getting carried away with runaway feelings, and I feel much happier than I used to.

edit: If you're using cannabis, you may want to stop. Using pot while in a depressed state can make you more bummed out. I've found JWH-018 to be a good replacement, as the effects are more uplifting and less likely to send me into depression and psychosis than MJ.
 
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yes
without my first ayahuasca trip, i would have killed myself quickly

it didn't dig me out of depression, it teleportated me out of depression

in 3 hours, everything was just cleaned off my slate

for around one year, i was a new born
then unfortunately, the problems started to dirty the slate again

and the later ayahuasca experiences have been extremely useful, but not depression-wise
 
Captaindammit said:
This isn't a should I or shouldn't I thread. I am simply wondering if psychedelics (going to start easy with LSA and move shrooms/LSD when possible) can change your mindset for the better and help me find out who I am and what I want to do with my life. Or am I just hoping for something that isn't going to happen?
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Try a low dose of DMT.

You'll probably have depression intermittently the rest of your life. However, you won't always be depressed, and there are very worthwhile moments to be had in your lifetime.

Push experience to the limit and make it count. Life is a very beautiful thing; make the most of it.
 
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