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Possible Anti-heroin comment solution

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ecstacii

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I myself am sick of all the anti-heroin comments made on this site as well.(which was mentioned in a previous thread)
And I have also came up wiht an idea that could possibly curb this problem, and hopefully turn more people on to heroin use.
If only somehow we could re-name heroin. I mean just the word "heroin" sounds dirty. Even to me, and I LOVE heroin. Heroin is a pretty harse word. Though, Opium...which is in a sense now worse than heroin, is not frowned upon, at least to stoner pothead retards who have only smoked red rock.
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Yes I know red rock is fake
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Your average potsmoking highschool drop out would fire up a fat rock of "red rock opium" in a heart beat, but our highschool drop out friend would drop dead in disgust if someone offered him some hair-on.
For example..Ecstasy. It don't sound bad by name. Although its probably one of the worst drugs out there, toxitity wise.
Or Marijuana...that don't sound to pretty. Thats why we have Weed, Reefer, or a new word I have just discovered...Limb. "Yo cracka ya got dat limb!?" (btw; i don't smoke pot, its bad for you)
So in conclusion, how about we all try to come up with a new name for Heroin, to make it sound a little more appealing. I know we have smack, and horse, and Diesel. But those words are pretty harse sounding as well, we need something new...a softer sounding word. Any ideas?
 
It's not about names. It is about images of seekly looking people with needles sticking out of their arms. It's about celebrity overdoses.
Crack isn't any less popular because of the name. People will snort up grams of coke, but a lot of people won't smoke crack because of what's been put into their head since they were little.
And I'm sorry, but using names as references.. "acid", "pot", "weed", "beans", "meth", don't sound attractive to me.
The only thing that would change most peoples minds about heroin is actually using it. I don't think anyone who sniffed a dime would think it lived up to it's hardcore reputation. I also don't think most people who weren't into that kind of stuff would like it. It's an aquired taste.
 
The name doesn't matter. When I'm asked if I'm chasing a few times a day, see needles in every nook and laneway and see people fucked up all over the place, yeah I'm gonna have a pretty fucken bad opinion of it. The fact is that Herion is about the worse drug in our society (Australia) and is just about as easily available as dope.
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Huh,...What,...Who,....Dude I can't here a fucken word your saying.
 
ugh.. it's the people that make heroin their escape and their only means of escape...not the drug itself or the name of it
 
Sounds like it's time to pray east toward Mecca and see if Allah can offer any answers to this dill of a pickle ..
Lets see....
NEW RULES TO CUT DOWN ON ANTI-HEROIN COMMENTS MADE WITHOUT MERIT
1) If you're an idiot that has never tried heroin, but wants to comment on what an evil drug it is, the post will get closed.
2) If you flame others for being heroin users, the post will get closed.
3) Any logic backed with such reasons as "because I watched trainspotting..." will be closed ..
It's simple - if you want to make an INTELLIGENT POST and OUTLINE the reasons why you think heroin is wrong, you will get intelligent replies ... if you make some stupid post devoid of any logical backing... *CLICK* ..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
airwalk, the people that put those needles there are the ones you need to direct your anger at, the drug is just their escape...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
I got an idea...how about "tampon"...or..."pendaflex"? JUst a though
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[This message has been edited by EvilSpaceMonk (edited 04 October 2001).]
 
Excellent rule phreex,i really hope its abided by.
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become-evolve-deprogram-reprogram-disconnect-reframe-synchronize-increase-rebirth.
'the nine goals'
The Ecstacy Club
by Douglas Rushkoff.
 
It wont be... the only difference is that we will be more agressive in "cleaning up" threads...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
"And I have also came up wiht an idea that could possibly curb this problem, and hopefully turn more people on to heroin use."
What the fuck is that!?!? How could you ever post anything like this?? Ecstasy is not one of the worst drugs out there, please do your homework dope fiend.
 
You dickless moron, ecstasy *IS* one of the most damaging drugs to the human body... and *SURPRISE* - heroin is one of the only drugs that, well, does NO DAMAGE TO THE USERS BRAIN!
I agree, if more people were turned on to RESPONSIBLE heroin use, the problem would be solved!
BTW, I assume you HAVE used heroin before?
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
To dickless moron,
To reiterate,there is no need to resort to name calling,ie 'dope fiend', to get your point across.
p.s....heroin is an organ friendly drug.
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become-evolve-deprogram-reprogram-disconnect-reframe-synchronize-increase-rebirth.
'the nine goals'
The Ecstacy Club
by Douglas Rushkoff.
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 04 October 2001).]
 
Interesting piece of trivia - Heroin was named as such by Bayer Inc at the turn of the century. It comes from the latin 'heroine' meaning 'hero', because they thought that's what the drug made you feel like. It was originaly thought of as a substitue for morphine, because it has less side effects such as constipation. Bayer quickly found out however that it was a little more addicitve. I have a copy of an original poster Advertising Asprin and Heroin on the same page - They even sent doctors samples : )
BTW Asprin kills 10X the amount of people Heroin does worldwide each year.
 
im not questioning that ectoz are more of a brain fuck that heroin, but where did you hear that it has (as you had in captials phreex) NO DAMAGE TO THE USERS BRAIN?
it woodnt surprise me if recreational use didnt heavily affect it, but if abuze can cos all the pisstake withdrawls then im sure there must be some brain side affects?
i dont think anyone REALLY knows how heroin affects the brain, not that im saying it mashes it
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a lot of people will read this shit, so cos it has such potential u shood make extra care to be accurate..unless ur a drug baron and you want your sales to rocket
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oh i love conspiracy theories...
 
I've snorted heroin three times and injected it 6 times. I've injected cocaine mixed with heroin (a speedball) once. However, that was, upon reflection, really stupid and admittedly self-destructive. Nevertheless, I knew that there was a good chance I could have died any one of those times. If you're going to do heroin, that is ultimately your own choice, but don't kid yourself about the risks. The risks are real.
Most autopsies of people who have died from heroin show that they have non-toxic levels of morphine in their blood, but they still died. Usually, they also have alcohol or benzos in their systems as well, so that is a major factor. Another longitudinal study showed that one-fourth of heroin addicts who started the study at age 25 were dead 25 years later. Sure, that doesn't prove heroin killed all of them, but it killed the majority of those who died.
I guess what I'm saying is to be honest with yourself about the risks of heroin if you choose to use it. If it doesn't kill you, then yes there is little toxicity, but the whole business is like playing Russian roulette in my opinion. Maybe the high is worth it to you and maybe not. To me the high is just not worth it anymore, but I know to some people the risk is worth it in their own minds.
"I have no regrets. There's nothing to forget. All the pain was worth it."--Madonna
[This message has been edited by Curious_George (edited 05 October 2001).]
 
Read up on the actuall pharmacology of heroin - diacetylmorphine - it works via simply binding opioid receptor sites in the brain, and this is HARMLESS - you could use heroin every day forthe rest of your life and it would do NO brain damage, hell, lots of people take narcotics far more powerfull then heroin daily and are just fine...
So what dangers come along with heroin use? Namely those risks brough upon by UNSAFE PRACTICES - if you IV, then you REALLY have to abide by some safety rules as to not fuck up ...
Lets draw this out..
We have two twins, one will smoke a little pot each day, the other will snort heroin.. if we revisit each in a year, the pot smoker will have done a LOT MORE damage to his/her body ..
Lets say we have two twins, one will shoot heroin on the weekends, the other will neck an ecstasy bean each weekend - again, at the end of the year, provided the heroin user followed safe injection practices, then he would be in better shape ...
Remember, addiction and overdose are the reasult of users that don't respect the chemical or just don't care...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
But Phreex you cannot ignor that Herion doesn't damage in other ways (BTW I've actually tried herion, didn't like it as I'm more into stimulants). I live a city with one of the highest Herion usage rates in the Western World and its ugly. Its easy to say its not Herion its the people (And technically you are correct) but what drives them. When a person is desperate for there next hit what do they do 'Burg', I've been on the recieveing end of this a few times now. This will eventually lead to criminal records etc. In addition to this we have girls as young as 12 prostituting themselves for that next (Actually this goes for guys as well). They will do anything and I mean anything to get the cash for that next hit.
Next most street Herion here is dirty (Yes I know clean Herion isn't anywhere near as bad) and as such death from OD is high amongst regular users (About 1/15).
You cannot refute that some people will only ever require one dose to be absoluely in love with Herion and will never get off it. This I've seen four times so far some people are just perfect candidates for a love affair with the Horse.
In contrast to other drugs this is a pretty telling story that Herion is by far the worst drug in our society (I'll say city, its a different story in regional areas). However saying that there are people who do use responsibly and have done so for a long time its just that they are the minority.
 
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