Poppy Seed Tea, too strong experience?

[poopymcpoop]

I've found numerous pages describing various recipes for making poppy seed tea. I also read many warnings discussing overdose potentials of the tea. I noticed that all deaths occurred when people used 1 pound or more of poppy seeds. I went to the local store and saw organic seeds (grey in color), mccormick ones (light black in color) and then went to the local health food store and found poppy seeds in the refrigerator that were dark black. I bought a bag of the dark black ones (some of them stuck to the funnel when I poured them in the bottle, is this an indication of strong seeds?) and mixed about 60 grams of it with 6oz of grapefruit juice, and shook it for 20 minutes, then poured it through a strainer to filter the seeds. Within about 5 minutes I noticed I was feeling more relaxed, and became more relaxed about 10 minutes later. This lasted maybe an hour then I felt fine the rest of the day.

Next is the part that worries me. The next day, I did the same thing except I used about 100 grams of poppy seeds and poured in some grapefruit juice (6 oz), shook it occasionally though out the day and mostly let it sit for about 8 hours that day. Then I poured half the juice through the strainer and drank it. I felt very relaxed but then started feeling and light itchy burn in my legs and arms, but then the relaxed and itching stopped after 45 minutes. I poured the rest of the juice (3 oz) into a cup and drank all of it. I noticed there was a yellow oily substance that started to separate on top of the grapefruit juice and it tasted a little nutty and earthy. About 10 minutes later, the itching and burning returned at about the same light intensity, but then I became extremely tired and was struggling to stay awake. I felt very nervous and nauseous but all I wanted to do was make sure I kept both eyes awake. After about 30 minutes, the extreme sleepiness went away and I started to feel more relaxed (maybe relieved) and within the next 30 minutes everything went back to normal (no hour of relaxed like the first time). Is there any way of knowing how close I was to an OD of tea? I used about 1/5 of a pound which should be far from a lethal dose but was my preparation what caused this bad experience?

The only thing I really want to "achieve" from this is a relaxed state like I got from Vicodin. Are there alternatives to the tea that I can take? Should I prepare the tea differently to get an effect more like Vicodin?

 

[Korn3x]

from my understanding, the effects from poppy seed/pod tea are supposed to last quite a long time (like some people get effects for 12 hours or more, and some even feel it into the next day). it's odd that you said the effects only lasted an hour?

i'm pretty sure most places do not sell pods/seeds like they used to anymore, so it seems unusual that you were able to just pick up a bag at the store in thee refrigerator section. i don't know for sure though. not really sure what kinda seeds you had, and whether they were meant for consumption or not.

 

[woamotive]

°First, sorry i cannot contribute too much to this thread-in terms of volunteering new information
Now, to the above: Poppy pods cannot be sold at stores etc., but poppy seeds are very easy to find at a local grocery store-perhaps not in a super small town or 'village'. Esp easy at health food stores, usually with bulk herbs and many rare/unusual (ie medicinal) herbs+flowers. I haven't seen any in the refrigerated section. That is news to me! I have no idea whether or not the color or the texture (etc) you described indicates strength.

I too find it intresting that effects had such short duration for you, as they are certainly better known for having lingering effects. You mention you have maybe read a little about poppy seed use (etc)- is this via trip reports and or erowid?Those would no doubt be helpful to read. Good luck in fiding what you're looking for.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Color and texture of the seeds are not indicative of strength and we can't tell you the potency of seeds you purchased at your local store/market/whatever.

Always start low when working with preparations of this nature.

 

[SawRED]

All anyone can do is speculate but heres my take on it...

First off dosing with seeds is a shit show and can vary greatly so you never really know what your getting. I've read a lot of the threads on BL and other sites about it and the only thing I can really say conclusively is that every batch is different and you never know what your getting until you try it out.

That said the general consensus is that poppy seeds bought in bulk from no-name suppliers have a greater potential to be stronger because it is less likely that they have been processed/washed/etc. removing the residual opiates from the outside of the seeds. This is probably true in terms of your best shot in getting good results although I have made PST with store bought seeds (it worked) and had similar effects to you in terms of duration. About an hour long and I found it to be less euphoric and less of a body high then Vicodin (hydrocodone) or most other pharms. My guess is that it would be difficult to wash all the opiates from the poppies so in all likelihood your PST will work to varying degrees regardless of what seeds you use. Of course, this variation goes from barely a buzz to 8 hours of nodding and even possibly overdoses.

The doses you used were pretty low an so I am guessing (correct me if I am wrong) that you are not a very opiate tolerant person and so your first fairly mild dose may have been a good amount for you. Your second dose was also not very high but you soaked your seeds for longer and upped your dose from the previous day which may have produced much stronger tea. The symptoms you experienced seem to me like the typical reaction most people have to opiates when they have taken too much ie. itching, nausea, drowsiness, however these are not really symptoms of an overdose, rather then someone who has just used a bit too much for their tolerance.

Also unlike hydrocodone where you know what you are getting poppies contain many of the opiate alkaloids some of which are not good for you and can cause adverse reactions like narcotine. You'll never know whether your batch contains a good ratio of the ones that get you high or the ones that make you feel like shit.

Anyways on both of our accounts the only thing that I do find odd is the PST producing reasonable effects on both of us yet lasting so short in duration. Maybe just the strength but I have no idea! All in all I am no expert on any of this I have just done a bit of researching online so don't take my word as 100% fact! I hope you have better luck next time...and as for tea preparation search bluelight there is a good easy to find thread on a PST recipe. (Although to be honest in my opinion your basically just washing the opiates off the seeds, I think the quality of the seeds will have a much bigger effect on your results then the method in which you prepare them.*)
*assuming you don't do something really dumb