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Poppy Seed Tea - Reason it is so incredibly long acting?

daddysgone said:
I just wanted to add that while I understand why you assume that seeds from your own pods would be much more potent than store-bought seeds, the opposite is actually true. Here is why:

The reason that seeds have any alkaloids on them at all has to do with the process by which food-grade seeds are harvested. Fresh pods are basically thrashed up and the seeds are collected (usually washed) and then sold as food products. Because the fresh pods are thrashed, the latex gets all over the seeds, and if the seeds are not COMPLETELY washed, some of the latex remains on the seeds, which can then be extracted.

When you try to do a wash of the seeds you collected from your own dry pods, the seeds were never exposed to the latex in a similar way. The seeds simply remained in the pods as they dried.

So while you would expect the seeds from your own, potent, dried pods to be stronger, it is actually the store-bought pods that underwent this violent process which contain more alkaloid residue. I'm sure the actual pods that the store-bought seeds came from were far weaker than the pods you use for tea, but the latex on these weak pods had a much greater opportunity to stick on to the exterior of the seeds.
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I didn't think about this way....but yes that makes sense. Nonetheless, I have tried store-bought brands many years ago when I had yet to establish my now permanent opioid tolerance. Did not notice any effect. In one case I simple ate a large amount of the seeds, chasing some sort of opioid effect. Nothing crossed over the radar. I am sure it is possible however, it just seems, well, unnecessary given the availability of alternatives.
 
The most intoxicated that I've ever been on an opioid was induced by poppy seed tea (I processed half a pound of them :P). Actually, I've matched the level with fentanyl, but still...

ebola
 
Really? You must be in some opioid deprived area......Roughly how much liquid did you have to drink for that 1/2 pound of seed.....

And fentanyl......how? If you are telling me poppy pod tea was stronger than even a 25mcg/hr duragesic you must have put it on wrong, placed over a patch of hair, etc.....
 
negrogesic said:
Really? You must be in some opioid deprived area......Roughly how much liquid did you have to drink for that 1/2 pound of seed.....
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Actually, it is because I find nodding unpleasant, and never shoot to get that high on opioids. With the pod tea, it was my first time accidentally overshooting (doing something resembling nodding for 8 hrs.). It was 24-36 oz. of vile liquid.

And fentanyl......how? If you are telling me poppy pod tea was stronger than even a 25mcg/hr duragesic you must have put it on wrong, placed over a patch of hair, etc.....
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These were with 50 mcg / hr. patches, worn in hairless areas, for roughly 7-8 hours (I could have worn them longer, but I didn't want to lose consciousness with a patch on and die :P). As far as strong opioids go, I've also smoked heroin and insufflated hydromophone. I just dose low with strong opioids. :p

ebola
 
Too much water...

If one gram of pure morphine sulfate is soluble in 16 ml of water, than the amount on any number of pounds of poppy seeds can easily fit into about a half cup of water,(maybe a cup) and here is how it can be done. Instead of "washing" all the seeds at once, only rinse them in increments, then use the same water to "wash" the rest of the parts. The liquid should be really dark, and it should never reach saturation because there is no way a gram of morphine sulfate is going to be residual on those seeds. This is just science, and I thought drug nerds were all about science. If I am wrong then let me know but please back that shit up. Who in the hell wants to drink two liters of crappy water? 8(
 
That's brilliant science you've got there, if your poppy seeds are frosted with a sparkling coat of morphine sulfate crystals. Admittedly, I'm more of a drug nerd than a poppy tea drinker, but in my limited experience, poppy seeds don't usually have pure morphine sulfate on them. They tend to be covered, to a varying extent, in an amorphous brownish resin known as poppy latex. Morphine base (not sulfate) is one of the constituents of the resin, but in order to extract the morphine and other alkaloids with a decent yield, you have to dissolve the resin.

I don't know the solubility of poppy latex in water, but if you happen to know it, that's the figure you should be using in your calculations.
 
Garbage_Monger said:
This is just science, and I thought drug nerds were all about science. If I am wrong then let me know but please back that shit up. (
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As mentioned in the post above mine, you are entirely correct. I can think of no reason why come you may be wrong, without getting scientifical.
 
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