Poppy seed tea. Has anyone given it a try?

[SpiritFolk]

^^ I don't know if that was taken with really
nice camera that has taken a extremely clear magnified shot? Cause IMHO they look weird and nothing like mine. Mine are tiny black blueish tinged tiny things that always seem to spill around my laundry no matter how hard I try.

Also to me the third wash is not strong as the second but definitely adds to the length of the experience. Especially when the whole process has been done relatively quickly (3 wash completed 1 hour - 1.5 hours from the start of the proffers. I also always wash with more GFJ never use water and increase the amount of juice with each wash to stop the seeds sucking all that liquid.

 

[Jakeperson]

I always do my washes straight away to help stop absorbing the moisture and just chuck it in the fride. Havent tried using just GFJ with the seeds, would orange work as well? I usually just mix half juice after wards.

 

[bobbydarren]

I"m sure there's good stuff out there, just I haven't found them, the poppy seed experience is over for me, I can always rely on CWE, and it's cheaper and less messy

 

[Charles Bronson]

Tried it the other day. Got 6 packs of 100 gram seeds, washed them, mixed in some lime-juice concentrate, did nothing to me...

I think that poppy pods are most exceptional in the desired effects from years of reading BL and DF and The Hive archives.

 

[Christ!]

They look odd Bobby...might just be the zoomed in shot.

For some balance -

Advice for someone thinking about trying poppy seed tea -

I really don't want to sound preachy, but I'm about to, so get ready. If seeds are your friend's first foray into such things, tell him to stay away no matter how great they might sound. Having a ready supply at your grocery store will inevitably lead to your friend feeling they need to use them everyday, and invariably his appetite will grow.

It doesn't matter how easy it has seemed to keep things to a minimum; having a ready supply of tasty seeds from a legitimate source like a grocery store will mean that the usual barriers don't apply. While he might start cooking with them once a week, they will quickly find their way into his daily meal. Trust me on this if you can; it really could never happen to me, but lo and behold it did. Being able to drive down the street and buy them at a local shop makes it very easy to do so far too often, and once you've tasted them the hunger won't go away.

If your friend is starving and needs relief, I will say that white seeds won't help. There is plenty of information out there, and with enough searching you'll find the answers your friend is looking for. Still, stop and consider the fact that although seeds seem very innocent it's all the same in the long run. In many ways they are a fast track because they are so available, and if your friend isn't in dire need I sincerely hope he finds other ways to quell his hunger for such things.

user - itmightbeme date - Jul 6 2011, 04:08 AM

I'm not trying to chastise anyone or anything, and I promise to stay out after this, but I will say that most anyone who has stumbled into a habit had a pretty good explanation for why there wasn't much risk of it becoming a problem at the start.

Seeds can be useful for people who are already in a position where they require potent and available relief, but after 10 years of personal experience (almost exclusively with seeds) I could make a book out of all the different ways I planned to ensure that I would avoid creating a problem. For the first two years or so, it seemed that I was doing a great job of avoiding all the "mistakes" that brought down so many people around me. In fact, I didn't believe there was a problem at all until one weekend when I realized that I'd bought out every store in a 60+ mile radius and knew it'd be at least a week or more before they restocked... Well, it taught me what becomes of "best laid plans," at least.

Again, I'm not trying to get on my high horse, nor am I trying to belittle anyone. I just know how innocently seeds started for me, and 10 years later I know that the ONLY way it wouldn't have become a problem was if I hadn't made that decision in the first place. Seeds are nefarious little buggers that have a way of being very enticing initially and very difficult to part with later. I feel like a douche saying this, but it might be good to stop yourself for a moment and consider the long term pros and cons of starting with PST. You might come up with a different answer than me, and that's your business, but there's no harm in considering both sides of that coin.

I sincerely wish you the best and I hope that it works out differently for you than it did for me and others.

I promise that I'm not usually this preachy or annoying; seeing anyone just starting to try seeds just hits very close to home for me (see the "Confronting a Stranger" thread if you need more proof).

Best of luck to you on this and in general.

Same poster

Source - http://forum.poppies.org/index.php?showtopic=19627 (thread)

Worth reading before anyone thinks of jumping in. Nothing wrong with discussing the good but got to have a bit of the possible bad to balance it out I reckon

 

[teological]

Guys, I went from different opiate to different opiate. Once my supply chain stopped, having a tolerance that opiods such as codeine couldn't really touch, I found seed tea. This is going to sound crazy but I think I have pushed th envelope with this stuff. I ended up consuming close to 5kg of seed about three times a week, no kidding. It started off at around 1- 2 kg and just sky rocketted. The bottles I started buying where 2 X three ltr. ( one fits 2- to about 2.5kg of seed perfectly). I ended up shop skipping and doing a familiar routine and build up supplies, until I hit the dose. DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS OR TRY IT OR THINK ABOUT IT.

It works. Once the shop keepers conscience started to plague them, they stopped stocking the larger packs I used to buy (they intentionally bought them in for me). For about a year though, they sold them to me (their morals and ethics seemed to kick in at around the same time coincidently, had about four small shops and used coles/safeway as backup).

My findings:

Almost all brands of seeds work at high enough doses (DANGEROUS). Have not found one that does not work.
Nauseau is present at the start and after the peak has finished, so you get about 30 - 45min of fun time, the rest is nauseau whilst in the opiate glow.
Best is to lie down and not move or get up to reduce pain.
Re-washing is not that effective. Have tried a rewash on its own and felt almost nothing.
One minute is all that is needed to extract them. Water is the only thing used. Lemon/anything extra makes no difference.
Boiling the content will reduce the feeling a little but also reduce the amount to drink, and smell up the entire house aswell as produce this disgusting froth that becomes solid.

2ltr bottle - fits one kg seed (and easiest to filter)
3ltr - 2kg - 2.5
4ltr- 3kg - 3.3kg

At my peak was skulling 2kg of the stuff at once, started washing new seeds with the same water instead of filling the bottle seperate to reduce amount to drink.

The high, even though it works, is dirty, euphoria rushes are minimal but the glow is present. Hangover is yuck and the taste is yuck. Stomach cramps and nauseau present at all times. Doesn't come close to MS contin, oxy etc.

But opiates are DOC for me, sad fact. Now starting to experiment with planting them for personaly use and have been clean (involuntarily) for more than three months.

 

[SpiritFolk]

I always do my washes straight away to help stop absorbing the moisture and just chuck it in the fride. Havent tried using just GFJ with the seeds, would orange work as well? I usually just mix half juice after wards.[/QUOTE


I never tried any other juice except GFJ and always wash again with more GFC. Only once I used water only and had quite a bit less efffect. I tried doing the washes straight away and leave in the fridge tecnique and it worked awesome. I still let the second wash soak for about 12 min though.

It was great cause i was pouring into a pint glass with ice and a shot of vodka and drank it more slowly instead of my usual scull the whole fuckin bottle technique. I found it cam on way nicer and after about 2-3 hours I was very very 'plesant' and in a nice nod. smoked a couple cones to throuout too.

I also didn't have the pissing problem at all (probably from drinkg slower)

 

[mangs]

I had some seed tea the other day. Doubled my last dose and didn't really find much of an increase in high. It lasts a very long time but I felt nausea for most of it, vomited a few times. I have found that near the end I have trouble focusing my eyes, like slight double vision at close range things. Didn't experience much of a nod either. It's more like i'll close my eyes for a bit now coz I feel tired and my eyes are wiggin out.

I use GFJ for the rinsing coz I hear it synergises with the poppy's but more importantly for me hides the horrendous taste. You can use orange or w/e juice to mask the taste but AFAIK GFJ is the only one that inhibits the enzymes.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Yep, it's only GFJ that has the magic we want.

Guys, I went from different opiate to different opiate. Once my supply chain stopped, having a tolerance that opiods such as codeine couldn't really touch, I found seed tea. This is going to sound crazy but I think I have pushed th envelope with this stuff. I ended up consuming close to 5kg of seed about three times a week, no kidding. It started off at around 1- 2 kg and just sky rocketted. The bottles I started buying where 2 X three ltr. ( one fits 2- to about 2.5kg of seed perfectly). I ended up shop skipping and doing a familiar routine and build up supplies, until I hit the dose. DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS OR TRY IT OR THINK ABOUT IT.

Great post, teological.

Did you have much in the way of WD symptoms when you were forced to stop using them?

 

[teological]

Yeah, they weren't anything to write home about, but the general aches in the bones and those annoying headaches were present for a couple of days. It is also important to note that ever since, I sometimes get this feeling in my head were i feel tired and weird for about 2seconds, like my head sort of falls forward and i feel a "heat" rush, it's rare but does occur. I have noticed it since my abstinence, don't know if it is attributed to some sort of damage or not with the tea.

 

[footscrazy]

I've always done 3 washes, not sure how effective the 2nd two are because I've never done them by themselves. I can feel the opioid effect after drinking the first wash though.

I did a 4th wash once because I'm silly, and I had some seeds I'd used previously but hadn't thrown out, and thought I'd give it a go. Didn't do shit though.

 

[headdah]

In the beginning, I was doing 3 washes as well. the first few times.

But now, I only just do 2 washes. and each wash the water dont stay in with the seeds for more than 10mins.

Like everyone else has pointed out. Leaving the water inside with the seeds longer is actually no good ! the seeds actually absorbs heaps heaps of the water and then u end up with not much water, and u'd have to squeeeze the bottle pretty hard to get the water out too.

And as to the PST insolmnia/ other side effects. Can't say I've gotten any at all.

PST > Codiene now thats for sure!

with my general tolerance to opis 2-300mg oxy / day.

2 packets of codiene roughly 800mg cwe = Nothing at all
5-600 grams of good quality poppy seeds = noddddddddddy for about 2-3hrs ;D

above image, was found somewhere :D

 

[Jakeperson]

GFJ is what DXM is to a CWE. Made it so much stronger and with shitty seeds. Actually nodded out a few times. Tastes so horrible though.

 

[spacejunk]

I understand what you're saying, but just thought I'd use this as a jumping platform for a discussion point: we should never feel that discussion of a topic will lead to people getting themselves into trouble with a substance, and we should not let this fear stop us from discussing a topic. In this case, it was overboard to discuss batch numbers and brand names particularly because the product in question is so widely available. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a thread about poppy seeds, and it definitely doesn't mean that there isn't a place for positive opinions on their use. If we let these thoughts dictate the discussion on Bluelight, then the site would be full of just factual information and dry HR information without a lot of the valid discussions and ideas that help us move forward and help us attract new members. To get the HR information out to the people, we have to engage with them first and and not allowing there to be acknowledgement and discussion of the positive side and benefits of using drugs will make it harder to attract people to a discussion of how to be safe when using drugs.

I just feel it is very important that we not let a fear of turning people on to something stop us from discussing the positive side of drug use. I really do think that if a thread about poppy seed tea is enough to get someone hooked on using them, they were probably bound to come across a similar problem with a substance in the future regardless.

i totally agree with what you're saying - i must confess that a large part of my concern is that a lot of positive reports, plus a lot of people talking about and saying they are trying/using PST also increases the potential for unwelcome attention (among media, legislators and law enforcement) towards this still-legal substance. i know that myself and other people are able to maintain our habits on this stuff. i hate to think what the options would be if there were some further "crackdown". with attention, comes heat. the drug war targets all of us.

on top of this, just to reiterate what Christ! said, there are some pretty stern warnings out there from none other than the online opium poppy community. his posts (from http://forum.poppies.org/index.php?showtopic=19627&st=0) emphasise the fact that sure, people with the potential to fall into addictions will do so regardless of whether or not we censor or restrict discussion on any topic, it's just that the accessibility of this one is a massive bitch to escape.
i thoroughly agree with these warnings, having fallen into it myself. there are plenty of addictive substances, but few are as easy to obtain as this one.

so while i'm certainly not suggesting that discussion be curtailed, restricted or in any way held back (positive or negative) - my concern is that this thread in particular seems to be leading a bunch of people to try PST for themselves...and whether this leads to success or failure, disappointment or addiction, reports that it doesn't work or sensationalist media attention is beyond anyone's control, really. i'm not suggesting that bluelight do anything differently, and i find the discussion interesting and enlightening - but i just wish it were a little more under-the-radar than it has been of late.
no fault of bluelight's or anyone's...just makes me a little uneasy, that's all.

of course preachy warnings do nothing to prevent drug use/abuse, but sometimes i wish i'd read the sorts of things said in the poppies.org thread mentioned above. it's not like i haven't introduced a bunch of people to PST, and it's not that i'm saying it's a bad thing - i'm glad to hear i'm not alone in using it, in fact. i'd just hate to see it become the next folk-devil media scapegoat.

 

[Sonny Jim]

There is a war on drugs so keeping PST safe from the enemy should be our first priority.

I know it is fun to talk about this amazing PST that your all trying but it is a really bad idea.

Its amazing that PST is still a viable option for opiate addicts in this country but there is no way that will continue if it becomes popular.

I think the thread should be locked because so much is at stake.

Keeping the thread open only serves to spread the word.

 

[Jakeperson]

And as a HR tool.. which is the point of this website.

It's not gonna be closed so try and help those that are going to use this to use it responsibly.

 

[Sonny Jim]

yeah but when it comes down to it the seeds will be outlawed once they become popular and I think this thread could be quite effective in that regard.

I don't think talking about PST under the guise of HR is really worth losing seeds from the local supermarket.

I think that we are all a part of the war on drugs and the number one rule of sensible PST use is to keep quiet about it.

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I know it is exciting and interesting to talk about the fact that you can just walk into <snip> and get hard drugs but I really hope BL members will think twice about this and resist the urge to celebrate this awesome drug so openly.

 

[Christ!]

No way this thread is going to be locked, no way it should be....I do see your point though Sonny.

There's been big threads about PST in the past here on AUSDD (massive ones if I remember correctly) several years ago. Remains to be seen how much bluelight can influence the wider use of drugs in the community. If you want this thread to die then just stop posting in it, same goes for anyone else....but if there's valid HR or information being shared you can't really argue against that here.


As long as - people are careful with dose/don't die, kids don't start using it in significant numbers and people don't start stealing seeds from stores I think availability will continue. The whole notion of poppy seeds being able to get you pretty damn high sounds a bit ridiculous and I think that's something working in our favour

 

[footscrazy]

I think this thread's HR value can't be understated, and I think it's important to keep it up.

Some people may start using because of reading this thread, but then again, it isn't our goal to stop people from using. Our purpose is to realise that people will use, and to make using as safe as possible. This thread may help innumerable people that we don't even know about - far more guests than members browse these forums. Giving people easily accessible information about the potential hazards of poppy seed tea helps to ensure we don't get people being silly on it and drawing attention to it in that way. Most importantly I think, it helps keep people safe.

I do see your point of view Sonny Jim and I think it's a valid point, I think though that first and foremost our goal needs to be HR. As much as I would hate poppy seeds being restricted or banned because of this thread, if this thread saves someone's life, I think that is more important, and is ultimately Bluelight's goal. People are going to use seeds whether this thread is here or not, and personally I think the benefits of teaching people to use safely, outweigh the risk of unwanted attention by keeping this thread up. That's just my opinion.

I hope that we can reach a happy medium by keeping this thread open, but making sure not to mention brands or sources anymore.

 

[Sonny Jim]

We need to keep it as secret as possible.

It really is as simple as that.