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Poppy seed tea. Has anyone given it a try?

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hmm...i have a thing about trying not to 'spread the word' about PST too much because the stuff keeps me functional quite often. don't like too many cats or legislators being wise to it!

Fairfax newspapers around the country did the story a few years ago. Not much happened, except I think the Indian white poppy seed lovers suffered alot for reasons I"m not sure off - Price, availability, potency?. I've never seen whites in bulk or large sized packaging so never tried them.

http://www.news.com.au/news/meet-our-supermarket-junkies/story-fna7dq6e-1111117039390
 
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^ i always planned to try the white seeds, but because they're a more exotic culinary import kinda thing, they've always been very expensive...and they never really looked 'right' (or that familiar - sort of different size/shape to the seeds i'm used to), so i never bought 'em. only ever saw them in asian markets, never mainstream food places.
recently i've read several different sources saying that they're inactive, so i'm not really curious any more.
funny, i seem to remember reading that article, and that sorta shit really pisses me off.
they go from 'poppy seed subculture' (shit, i almost feel like this damn thing makes me hip) to pseudo-runners to doctor shopping without pausing for breath in between.

in a way i'm glad - things haven't really gotten worse since then (just a cycle of shit seeds to ok seeds and back) although it's harder to find large (200g+) bags like you used to. pre-2006 i never got dud seeds, and at one point <a source> near where i grew up sold 2 different brands of poppy seeds in 200g bags and a smaller size container also. if the media had the attention span to actually write a decent article on this topic, it would probably make my life a lot harder. no, this is not a challenge. :P

was the easiest drug discovery i ever made, as i said - both an amazing blessing and a curse. no dealer, no (obvious) illegality, no hanging with junkies to score - basically flying under the radar.
it's quite interesting - in about 2005/6 (not exactly sure) i looked into the fridge of a bottle shop and saw an energy drink that boasted something along the lines of 'energy - with opium!' and contained 'poppy seed extract'. now, i don't know what 'extract' means, exactly, but the fact that it could be marketed as such really blew my mind. did anyone realise that these seeds are in fact active (with that long-illegal substance?) or was this a dumb marketing ploy based on the apparent 'energy boosting' qualities of of mineral or vitamin inside poppy seeds?
either way, i never saw them again, but the mind did boggle. i always thought PST would make an amazingly subtle drug infusion to sell on the sly, but this was so blatant! i did try drinking a few, but i had quite an opiate tolerance at the time, and i didn't notice any of the familiar signs of an opium buzz.

footsy, do you already have an opiate habit?
if not, then i'd say be careful...it really is quite an amazing thing that we can still do this in 2011. i really think that (properly prepared/dosed) PST leaves codeine for dead. much warmer and more 'natural' feeling - and yes, the taste of CWE was always a bit suss. tastes like "this can't be healthy". my morning fix is more like a glass of nutty breakfast juice. mmm mmmm grapefruit :)
oh...it also sounds like you might've gotten the wrong seeds the first time? i could be wrong, but poppy seeds don't tend to go 'slimy'. well, maybe a little - they're messy and they stick together when wet, etc...but are you sure they're not nigella seeds or something? apparently nigella sativa/black seed oil acts on opiate receptors and is a really effective potentiator. i've been intending to track some down for a while, thanks for reminding me.
i've just done a quick google search, and it seems 'casa casa' is the tamil name for poppy. well i never!

pinkanga - i've been doing this shit a lot for a long time, second and third washes are most definitely worthwhile. try my sieve-and-two-mixing-bowls preparation technique and you'll find the re-washing is pretty easy to do. the whole process should take no longer than 10 minutes to carry out. more like 5 :)

sometimes i get freaked out by how much time i spend sourcing seeds. probably more than the money i spend...it's just so time-consuming. i don't like going to the same place every couple of days - and if i do, they soon run out!
in smaller stores, they sometimes seem to stop selling them or order smaller sized packages after a while. my paranoid mind tells me that the regular appearance of a young fucking beatnik coming in and buying nothing but arms full of poppy seeds rings a few alarm bells. i don't look that dodgy - i try to defy all the classic druggie stereotypes, i'm polite and friendly - but surely it doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together to imagine that i'm abusing them or doing something a little weird with them.

this isn't the place to talk about it, but sometimes i can't help but wonder how hard it would be to obtain one of the huge sacks you see in wholesale stores. probably more trouble than it's worth...but yeah, it's a vice best kept under wraps, you dig? particularly from the retailers that act, unwittingly, as my suppliers. half of them wouldn't give a shit, but still - i try not to burn any bridges. one less vendor is one step closer to being in a sticky situation, and i am quite proud of the fact that i never get to a point where i encounter withdrawal sickness. i'd feel like shit if i skipped my morning coffee too, i sort of see it as a similiar kinda thing. lots of people take antidpressents every day - opiates are just another mood stabiliser to me; i know what i'd rather be hooked on. which is not to justify it - it's a fucking pain in the arse and it does hold me back from travelling and so fourth.

i think i know the site you are referring to pinkanga, and i don't recall it seeming like such a good deal, but it's been a while since i saw it. i guess ordering huge amounts would be dodgy because of the enormously variable quality of seeds. it would like being stuck with a 20 kilo sack of sesame seeds if they turned out to be bunk seeds! if you knew they were quality on the other hand...

i'm just lucky that so many places sell them. bless you, tasmanian opium farmers.
 
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^^great post man. Very informative and I agree with basically everything said, except the weak withdrawal part and comparison to coffee. I don't know if it is because I had a huge opiate addictionmfor years, but when I used about 3 kilos over 4 days I got classic yawns and leg pains like with mild H WD. So I can imagine if I was doing this daily for months and months the WD could be pretty dam severe and long as the high lasts long too.

Also do happen to use meth? Your posts are always epically long! Please don't take offense as it's all good info and I am just joking around cause my posts can be long too - but often a meth pipe is involved lol.
 
Agreed! Great postings spacejunk. I can't really call myself an expert in the company of such a master :) lol

The withdrawals can be severe. The limiting factors are how much seed you can get, and how much tea you can spend the time making and drinking each day. It's such a dilute opiate preparation compared to heroin but can still definitely be addicting. Read up a bit on poppy pod tea withdrawal to get an idea.

Also do happen to use meth? Your posts are always epically long! Please don't take offense as it's all good info and I am just joking around cause my posts can be long too - but often a meth pipe is involved lol.

Not answering for him but I will say poppy seed tea can get me pretty wired sometimes.
 
^ I agree with the earthy taste, I don't mind it at all. It reminds me of old books.

I'm really liking poppy seed tea. The longevity is great. I think I may have even found a new fav over my ol' faithful codeine ;)

That wouldn't be hard. I just took a g of codeine and got high for 20 minutes..
 

At least as good as a good <snip> brew. Colour seemed better anyway.... correct me if Im wrong but the darker the seeds the better right? Online sources on this are contradictory.
 
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At least as good as a good <snip> brew. Colour seemed better anyway.... correct me if Im wrong but the darker the seeds the better right? Online sources on this are contradictory.

The trend is that darker seeds that clump together a bit are higher quality. However, I've had very good seeds that were white/dark grey/blueish, and I've had very average dark seeds that clump together. You can't really tell for sure by how they look ;) The best seed I've ever had were very black, oily/shiny-like and clumped together like a mofo.
 
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That wouldn't be hard. I just took a g of codeine and got high for 20 minutes..

Yeah codeine's a bitch like that. I've had a good run on codeine but even with my ultra low dose naltrexone my tolerance is slowly rising and I'm not getting much from it anymore.

spacejunk - I really do appreciate the warning. I don't have a habit at the moment but I've been right on the borderline for awhile now. I use codeine pretty much daily and have used enough stronger opies on top of that to get very mild withdrawals at times. I can see myself fucking up on poppy seed tea just because it's so easily accessible. My ultra low dose naltrexone regime really helps with avoiding withdrawals, but I know that avoiding withdrawals from codeine is a different matter to avoiding the withdrawals from the mixed alkaloids of poppy seed tea.

I do think the casa casa seeds were active because I got the opie itch, but fuck they're a hassle to work with. They turn into a gelatin type texture once they're wet and they have proven absolutely impossible to remove from the shirt I used to filter them so far. I definitely wont be using them again.
 
At least as good as a good hoyts brew. Colour seemed better anyway.... correct me if Im wrong but the darker the seeds the better right? Online sources on this are contradictory.

Not really worth the price then. I tried some warehouse brand ones a while back and fuck all happened with very little tolerance and 500g of seeds. Might give <a different brand> a shot, I know another place that some one buys from regularly but its a bit of a hassle to get to at the moment.
 
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The trend is that darker seeds that clump together a bit are higher quality. However, I've had very good seeds that were white/dark grey/blueish, and I've had very average dark seeds that clump together. You can't really tell for sure by how they look ;) The best seed I've ever had were very black, oily/shiny-like and clumped together like a mofo.

so true. agree completely! i use the colour as a rough guide. you rarely see the dark ones, so i nab them when i come across them, but i've had some mighty good lighter/dryer ones too. in the days before most seeds were 'washed' or whatever went on there, they were all about the same appearance as the average ones now. weird - just don't judge by sight and assume they're all strong, you can always re-dose. having too much doesn't mean having more fun, it means being fucking ill. not fun.

SpiritFolk: that's pretty funny man, i was actually wondering when someone would ask me that! no, i haven't had any form of meth for over two years, i'm just an intense motherfucker!
i don't know if my long posts are a annoying or informative. being succinct is a skill i should work on more, but i have a very active mind and cannot always express everything in a twitter-style post. this was meant to be a brief post but it's turned out huge again, sorry kids!

footscrazy: yeah, be careful. i made the mistake of using every day because it is so easy to. turned into a habit, now i don't really have a choice. i mean, i have a "choice" but with a lot of implications.
i think the longevity of the high can be misleading and dangerous. unlike a lot of shorter-lasting opiates, if you say to yourself "it's ok, i'll just stick to using once a day" you'll still end up physically addicted to it.
i think as soon as i worked out how to make PST (back in 2002!) i began using it a couple of times a week. nothing major. quit completely for a year or so, no withdrawals to speak of, even though i was using quite a bit. i went back to it after taking a shitload of acid for a long time (so good for comedowns) and found myself taking it every day. this time around, not so lucky with the WD. it's a long-lasting withdrawal process too...so i'm told. i feel like a blessed junkie in some ways, 'cause i never go without. sometimes i just feel like a dickhead.
i'd just really hate to encourage anyone else to get themselves into this predicament. it's too fucking easy to get your hands on; i went in fully aware of what i was doing and still ended up with a slave to the spice isle. i guess that's the only thing i worry about in sharing this knowledge with people (real life friends, or people reading a forum) - this is what i do, this is how i do it, but for chrissakes be careful with it. friends and acquaintances may scoff at "getting high off poppy seeds" or "fake smack" or whatever, but it's the real deal, regardless of how crude it is.
addiction obviously is not a rational thing, but i'd just recommend you set limits on yourself while you still can. someone posted in another thread about getting the runs after getting constipated. this was the point that i went "fuck that!" and used more. don't do it! it's your body telling you that it needs what you're giving it...except if you give in, next time it will be saying it a hell of a lot louder. anyways, enough lecturing.
those slimy seeds sound crazy! i wasn't aware there was another type of poppy seed out there - they may be hard to deal with, but i'm curious. must investigate!
 
Glad to hear you had an enjoyable evening footsy :)

lovephychadelics - The first time I tried poppy seeds I did a similar method to that, but didn't try it again until a friend taught me another way because it was just too gross.

I'm a bit of a poppy seed expert 8) too bad you can't get a diploma on that kind of thing.


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Poppy seeds from Australia are usually the best surprisingly. You want them to be mechanically separated, not hand separated (all aus stuff is former) and you want the seeds to be from a poppy plant that is being grown for high morphine/codeine (all aus poppys are this*. whereas some other countries grow a special low alkaloid strain just for the seeds and seed oil)


You talking about these ones right? I'm almost 100% they are Australian :)

The deal is that Australia (tasmania) is the largest producer of base opiate alkaloids for the pharmaceutical industry AFAIK - that means after getting all the goodies out they are left with a crap load of poppy seeds. This means that almost all poppy seeds you'll find in Australia are from here, because it doesn't make much sense to import if we're overloaded already.

The poppy seeds are separated from the rest of the poppy plant in big factories in tasmania. The machinery that does the separating always leaves behind a small coating of dust on the seeds, and even leaves small bits of the poppy plant itself behind (little bits of grass/straw looking stuff) pretty often. So all the powdered goodness is on the outside of the seed, stuck into the huge surface area of pits and cavities on each seed, when you add the millions of seeds up the surface area for catching this dust would be humongous - almost impossible to wash every tiny trace off (although they do try, which means low potency batches from supermarkets regularly)

When making poppy tea your aim is to get as much goodness off the surfaces as quickly and with the least amount of water possible. You want to do it quick so the water doesn't soak into the seed, causing it to swell and soak up the water which has your goodies in it. Best way to do this IME is a soft drink bottle -

Pour your seed into 1.25L/2L bottle with a funnel.
Add warm/room temp water so that it just covers the seeds and lets you slosh around/shake them up sufficiently.
5-10 minutes after soaking and shaking, invert the bottle over a cup with the lid on. Unscrew the lid slightly so water trickles out but poppy seeds stay inside. Give it a bit of a squeeze as lots of the water will be trapped on that vast universe of poppy seed surface area.

Repeat the process once or twice on the same seeds if you like.

Give this a try next time lovephychiadelics :) see how it compares. Don't get addicted though plz. My friend Jake always had a saying - when you start finding poppy seeds in places like under your foreskin/in ears/hair - it's time to give it a break. My friend , like me ended up on bupe and obviously didn't heed his own advice.

Watch out for extremely potent batches of seeds. Sometimes it looks exactly the same, tastes a bit bitter - can actually kill you if you're unlucky -

/end poppy seed essay #47

just used your method. with about 550grams of <a brand> poppy seed. just did the first wash, drank that.

now waiting for 2nd wash to be completed. This seems VERY easy to do. Thanx for the tech.

I'll report back in 30-40mins if i'm noddy as fuck. (i have a pretty big opiates tolerance I can do up to 300mg of oxy a day or so)
 
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just used your method. with about 550grams of <a brand> poppy seed. just did the first wash, drank that.

now waiting for 2nd wash to be completed. This seems VERY easy to do. Thanx for the tech.

I'll report back in 30-40mins if i'm noddy as fuck. (i have a pretty big opiates tolerance I can do up to 300mg of oxy a day or so)

If ur tech id solid, and i am sure it prob is(not realy rockrt science) then u'll nod off the second wash.

How about we all forget mentioning brands,wanna keeep stock up.
 
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headdah said:
I'll report back in 30-40mins if i'm noddy as fuck. (i have a pretty big opiates tolerance I can do up to 300mg of oxy a day or so)

With that kind of tolerance, I don't think you'll get much from seeds. Let us know how it goes though. :)
 
I did it for the first time last night with 500gm of seeds. I had it a few hours after dinner and found the liquid very hard to stomach, couldn't handle to taste. Probably took me around 1.5 hrs to drink 3/4 of approx 700mL's, threw the rest out coz I thought it wasn't working. Ended up getting a mild high. Maybe if I slammed the drink down I would have got a stronger high?
 
^ Drinking it all at once definitely would have increased the high somewhat, hard to say how much though. If the amount of liquid is too much to handle, you might want to consider a light evaporation.
 
With that kind of tolerance, I don't think you'll get much from seeds. Let us know how it goes though. :)

dude, u're absolutely wrong on this one mate.
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I nodded soooooooo hard!!!! but yeah i am a big guy so i could stomache more fluid, i pretty much drink the first wash, about 600ml of fluid, do second wash, another 600ml of fluid, drink that too, as well as about 300ml of grape fruit juice.
WAS NODDY FOR 2-3hrs at least

I ended up going back to <snip> , bought out their supply of poppyseed for the day, and repeated the PST about 3times yesterday ;D
 
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^^ did poppy seed tea with 2 well stored LSD tabs today. Prepared 500g gram while I waited for the tabs to come on. DRank first wash with grapefruit exactly 1 hour after dropping tabs, and then wash with losts of cones with 2 hours.

Was really really nice buzz, weakend the overall crazyness of the LSD and just synergised perfectly into this nod/LSD type gurn high, with fanastic visuals. Was very very cruisy experience but I wouldn't recommed it if you want the full ptential of the tabs. Which was fine as was just chillin at home on my own.

Never done opiate + LSD beofre as I thought it would totally kill the trip but it synergised into wicked high for me
 
830mg codeine, 960g PST, and about to chase with 20mg diazepam some huge glasses of GFJ. Not a bad rainy Sat night in, with all Uni exams done and Skyrim sitting in the 360 ready to rock.

Also anyone know what the deal is the white seeds? The site I mentioned above seems to have a new product.... a 100g jar of white seeds. The size is annoying and leads me to believe that theyre not really worth using for PST (... also because the black seeds the sell come in an 600g option).

So, anyone what the deal is? Should I buy 5 jars of their white seeds or are they known to be shit?
 
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just bought a kilo of black poppy seeds from <a source> . it was 12.95. epic cheap.

Just did about 550grams PST.

hope it works, cuz if it does, this cuts my costs down to nearly a third!

as <another source> one works out to be like 18c/10grams i think
 
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Verdict on the chinese brand :

NOT AS STRONG. i've even tried to potentiate it with some clonazapams.

my eyes are pin balled, but no where near as euphoric as the "aussie" brand. (i've just been to <snip> and bought out the rest of their stock again ;D)

should be noddie in 5 or so
 
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