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Poppy seed tea. Has anyone given it a try?

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Yeah it takes a while as mentioned above :P

Seems like it's moving at a snails pace early on...

Can't give you exact times but -

Mine went from this -

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About 20th of August

to this -
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28th of October

Hopefully that helps :) the growth from seedling to the first picture took ages.

Yeah you're right Fire&Water...just don't get greedy and take leaves while the plant is still producing pods ;)

If you can be bothered, after you've gotten all your pods you can cut the leaves off and leave them to dry in the sun. Once they're fully dry you can make tea out of them.
 
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If you've got extra space, you can sow more seeds when your winter poppies start to flower...although they won't be nearly as big they'll still give you a couple pods in a much shorter period of time.
 
I found something called 'casa casa seeds' (kasa kasa?) in an Indian spice store. The lady told me these were poppy seeds but I can't find much info on them. Wiki suggets they are from papaver somniferum, but another site says basil seeds are also sold by this name. Does anyone have any experience with these? They looked a bit different from the usual poppy seeds, smaller and flatter, and she said they go transparent in water and are used in cooking as a thickening agent.
 
They sound like either going to be awesome or not work. Sorry haven't had them before. Maybe try a small dose like 150-200 grams just to see if u get the heavy shoulder onset wait a few hours to see if there are any negative side affects like the thebaine headache effect? if not then good to go for a normal dose of 500 grams?
 
I've never made poppy seed tea before so I'm a bit wary. I bought some of <another kind> which I suspect wont do anything but I thought I'd give those a go first while I find out more about these casa casa seeds...
 
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Not too sure footscrazy. All I know is you want the typical poppy seeds you find on bread.

There's a high chance it'll be underwhelming. Also a chance it'll be too overpowering so start low.

This thread is pretty good for describing what sort of trouble those little seeds can get you into - http://forum.poppies.org/index.php?showtopic=19627 Some good basic info and words of warning from the user 'itmightbeme'

First few times, even if you get the dose exactly right won't be amazingly awesome...just very pleasant at best. Takes a few goes to get used to the effects from the wide variety of alkaloids (same with pods and opium)

It can be realllly enjoyable once you find a good source or batch and hone your dose...but also really addicting because of the cheap price and availability.

Tried out some seeds from <snip> a few months ago and they were surprisingly good. Usually I've found them to be poor though...

Just use the plastic bottle method which is probably posted in this thread. Usually good seeds will make the water turn dark with a slight yellow tinge (but not always!)
 
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Thanks Christ :) I ended up using 400mg of the <snip> seeds and I'm pleasantly surprised that they've actually worked - considering I have some opie tolerance and my extraction technique was undoubtedly pretty shit, haha. It's not very strong but I've got that nice tender heavy feeling in my muscles - definitely enjoyable. I feel like I'm sunbaking from the inside out %)

I will be sweeping poppy seeds off the floor for weeks though :|
 
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Just get the <a brand> poppy seed it's made from imported poppy seed and is cheap get 2-3 of the 250g containers and make some tea, it works and costs a few dollars cheap as. Taste is very nasty and you may puke but add some milk and honey and just simmer 500g of imported seed. The imported seed does not seem to be washed all that well and has a fair bit of alkoloids still attached. I get 3 cups from 2 x 240g containers works ok.
 
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I found something called 'casa casa seeds' (kasa kasa?) in an Indian spice store. The lady told me these were poppy seeds but I can't find much info on them. Wiki suggets they are from papaver somniferum, but another site says basil seeds are also sold by this name. Does anyone have any experience with these? They looked a bit different from the usual poppy seeds, smaller and flatter, and she said they go transparent in water and are used in cooking as a thickening agent.

Papaver somniferum L - alkaloid content opinions
Could that help at all?
I'm not sure.. thought I'd post it just in case.
The paper seemed to talk about the concentration of morphine alkaloids in the seeds a lot, thought it might be of use..
Good read anyway.
 
Glad to hear you had an enjoyable evening footsy :)

lovephychadelics - The first time I tried poppy seeds I did a similar method to that, but didn't try it again until a friend taught me another way because it was just too gross.

I'm a bit of a poppy seed expert 8) too bad you can't get a diploma on that kind of thing.

Poppy seeds from Australia are usually the best surprisingly. You want them to be mechanically separated, not hand separated (all aus stuff is former) and you want the seeds to be from a poppy plant that is being grown for high morphine/codeine (all aus poppys are this*. whereas some other countries grow a special low alkaloid strain just for the seeds and seed oil)



You talking about these ones right? I'm almost 100% they are Australian :)

The deal is that Australia (tasmania) is the largest producer of base opiate alkaloids for the pharmaceutical industry AFAIK - that means after getting all the goodies out they are left with a crap load of poppy seeds. This means that almost all poppy seeds you'll find in Australia are from here, because it doesn't make much sense to import if we're overloaded already.

The poppy seeds are separated from the rest of the poppy plant in big factories in tasmania. The machinery that does the separating always leaves behind a small coating of dust on the seeds, and even leaves small bits of the poppy plant itself behind (little bits of grass/straw looking stuff) pretty often. So all the powdered goodness is on the outside of the seed, stuck into the huge surface area of pits and cavities on each seed, when you add the millions of seeds up the surface area for catching this dust would be humongous - almost impossible to wash every tiny trace off (although they do try, which means low potency batches from supermarkets regularly)

When making poppy tea your aim is to get as much goodness off the surfaces as quickly and with the least amount of water possible. You want to do it quick so the water doesn't soak into the seed, causing it to swell and soak up the water which has your goodies in it. Best way to do this IME is a soft drink bottle -

Pour your seed into 1.25L/2L bottle with a funnel.
Add warm/room temp water so that it just covers the seeds and lets you slosh around/shake them up sufficiently.
5-10 minutes after soaking and shaking, invert the bottle over a cup with the lid on. Unscrew the lid slightly so water trickles out but poppy seeds stay inside. Give it a bit of a squeeze as lots of the water will be trapped on that vast universe of poppy seed surface area.

Repeat the process once or twice on the same seeds if you like.

Give this a try next time lovephychiadelics :) see how it compares. Don't get addicted though plz. My friend Jake always had a saying - when you start finding poppy seeds in places like under your foreskin/in ears/hair - it's time to give it a break. My friend , like me ended up on bupe and obviously didn't heed his own advice.

Watch out for extremely potent batches of seeds. Sometimes it looks exactly the same, tastes a bit bitter - can actually kill you if you're unlucky -

/end poppy seed essay #47
 
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Pour your seed into 1.25L/2L bottle with a funnel.
Add warm/room temp water so that it just covers the seeds and lets you slosh around/shake them up sufficiently.
5-10 minutes after soaking and shaking, invert the bottle over a cup with the lid on. Unscrew the lid slightly so water trickles out but poppy seeds stay inside. Give it a bit of a squeeze as lots of the water will be trapped on that vast universe of poppy seed surface area.

This sounds like a much better method than mine, I mixed them up in a soft drink bottle but then dumped the whole mess into a shirt to filter, but the poppy seeds are too big to let a lot of the water out just by squeezing.

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My friend Jake always had a saying - when you start finding poppy seeds in places like under your foreskin/in ears/hair - it's time to give it a break.

Ahaha...
 
hmm...i have a thing about trying not to 'spread the word' about PST too much because the stuff keeps me functional quite often. don't like too many cats or legislators being wise to it!
but anyway, here's my poppy seed essay ;)
i figured i'd share my long-perfected way of making it. not to say the other methods that have been suggetsed aren't acceptable or effective - they are, but i just find this works the best for me.

i agree 100% with Christ above (!) that you need to get the goodies off the seeds as quickly as possible and with just a little liquid.
i don't use water on its own - prefer grapefruit juice or a couple of lemons (or any citrus juice really - orange or pineapple is good too - bottle from the shops is good, freshly squeezed is better).
no idea about potentiation or better extraction, but for me a bit of fruit juice negates any bad taste of poppy seeds washed in water. just sort of nutty bitter fruit. used to mix a batch with lemonade, chuck it in a two litre bottle and drink it at parties.
not bad with a reefer and good company on a warm summer night :) :)

so anyway, what i've used for a long time now is a method involving two bowls and a fine sieve.
have big two round plastic bowls, which have a lip on them for pouring and hold a few litres.
i have a big sieve i bought from a chinese grocer that has fine metal mesh on it and sits nicely on top of both bowls (similar diameter). it's nothing fancy, but it stops too many seeds from getting in the mix. there are plastic ones that do the job well, too. i've used this bowl and sieve set-up for lots of different teas and concoctions i've made over the years. sure beats squeezing shit through an old t-shirt. if seeds or whatever get through it, run the liquid through a smaller, finer strainer. easier to deal with and seems more hygienic.

so what i do is get my seeds, and chuck them in the smaller of the two bowls. the sieve sits on the rim of the larger bowl (which collects the infusion, or whatever you'd like to call it).
i then pour enough grapefruit juice into the bowl of seeds to soak and cover them by a cm or so. no scientifically determined amount, maybe something roughly equivalent to the weight of the seeds.

once the juice is in there, i get a spoon and stir like crazy - if you agitate them, you'll dislodge more alkaloids, same as shaking the bottle :)
i do this quickly for the reason mentioned above - you don't want the seeds to soak up the liquid. don't bother boiling or crushing or doing anything else to the seeds - these are all counterproductive. unlike most of these sorts of endeavours, easy and quick is best.
shouldn't take longer than 5 or 10 minutes if you do it right.
not a race against time, but not something you want to sit back and wait ages for either. the only waiting is waiting for the juice to drain out of the seeds.
just tip the seeds, pour the juice, whip up a little frenzy with a spoon and tip the mixture into the sieve in the other bowl.

i find that a 'good' batch of seeds often tends to bubble/foam up slightly when i'm mixing it. shitty well-washed seeds dont really do this. not proof one way or the other (ie inexperienced folks shouldn't dose according to this) but just something i've noticed).

anyway, after completing this process i also do a couple of re-washes.
what i do after these seeds have been sitting in the sieve for a few minutes (once again, not too long - they'll soften up and absorb moisture which both soaks up the desired alkaloids and makes the brew taste funky - the quicker you do it, the cleaner the taste will be!).
so i get the sieve full of seeds and tip them back into the first bowl.
this time though, i pour water onto them - about the same amount as the juice i put in to start with, enough to cover them plus a little more.
i then do the same thing - tip them into the sieve and drain - and repeat this step again.

so i do a juice wash and two secondary water-washes.
this may seem pointless, but what i normally do is strain the first and second wash into a bottle together,chuck it in the fridge for later, and drink the third wash with just a little of the main batch mixed in for flavour. i have a nicer time on this than i do the rest of the batch (the first two washes). definitely worth doing multiple washes.

the mess is a problem, and there are always poppy seeds in weird parts of my flat...it's a little embarrassing heheh.
i like the sieve method though because you don't need a plastic bottle to do it, i think it is easier to handle them (making less mess...relatively?) but it really is up to you.
the juice though - i don't like using water. maybe it's just what i've gotten used to.


it seems to usually create a lot of waste - empty the seed containers (if they're <snip> seeds - sometimes like 8 of the 70g packets), half a kilo of spent seeds plus a fruit juice bottle iend up in the bin every time i use (sometimes i use a lot).
i don't like creating so much rubbish - but my absolute favourite way to dispose of the big piles of seeds is to put them into something kinda discreet (go find a littered mcdonalds coke cup!!) and walk around my neighbourhood throwing the seeds absolutely everywhere! even if you use once a year, you're throwing away thousands of potential opium poppies if you chuck them in the bin!
they really do grow themselves, and even without being watered, will grow to maturity and produce pods in a lot of climates and each one of those tiny black things is a lovely juicy opium poppy just wanting a chance at life!
most people have no idea what they are (even in the last little stage where it is obvious what sort of plant it is, most people don't notice them) and they usually get pulled out because they look like weeds for the first couple of months. find an unweeded spot and you might get lucky. even if you don't you got nothing to lose :)
i had a fairly successful guerrilla gardening campaign this year - even though it was half hearted, i managed to get a few handfuls of pods from various little patches i sowed. i'm in perth - not the most ideal climate -not enough rain - but it's better than wasting them, and sometimes you get a nice little surprise in the springtime. i live in the city so i really had very few unmanicured bits of dirt to target (some came up in an alley near my house, some came up between cracks in the footpath) but why the hell not?!
beautify your urban environments, kids!!
oh, i've also been lead to believe that pre-soaking seeds (ie making poppy seed tea out of them) softens the wall of the seed and increases the chance of germination. maybe total poppycock (haw haw, poppy pun) but who knows?

oh, and footsy, i would agree that these days most of the best seeds to be had are from <snip> .
they're overpriced, but i find a lot of bulk stores sell lousy seeds...or at least really washed ones. i still go for them sometimes - so long as they're not totally inactive, but this seems to still be a minority of seeds, thankfully.

white poppy seeds don't work, apparently (which is good, last time i looked at them in <snip they were $24 for about 200 grams). strictly culinary, for that price!
basically my tip for finding potent seeds is the darker the better. when they're black and clumpy and sticking together, they're usually the goods, as i am usually confident they are actually going to work. having said that, sometimes they don't that great but tthey're really strong. it's not proof but it's something to look out for.
some brands vary dramatically batch-to-batch, and when a batch of one of the <snip brands comes out black and clumpy i grab as many as i can before they restock the shelves with the grey/blue dry ones. if you see the ones that have a speckled mix of grey/blue and red/brown kinda seeds, they're usually very weak or completely inactive.
before 2006 good seeds were everywhere, then they all went to shit.

if you don't have a habit (as has already been mentioned) it can be a bad thing to get into because obtaining them is so fucking easy and it's hard to cut yourself off from various sources...some shopping centres i've been to have something like 8 different shops you can buy them from.
it's a bit of a dodgy habit, but there aren't many other drugs you can obtain legally and easily everywhere by just being a bit crafty.
besides shit like glue and horrible over-the-counter drugs of abuse, i can't really think of anything. it needs to be respected (and maybe feared?) a little though, because if you drink too much in a night you will get very sick (throwing up the whole next day) aand of course if you get hooked you'll be a lot sicker for a lot longer if you stop taking it.
it's got the availability of nutmeg, but that doesn't mean its phoney opies.

apologies for another of my typical way-too-fucken-long posts, but i dig PST.
 
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hmm...i have a thing about trying not to 'spread the word' about PST too much because the stuff keeps me functional quite often. don't like too many cats or legislators being wise to it!
but anyway, here's my poppy seed essay ;)
i figured i'd share my long-perfected way of making it. not to say the other methods that have been suggetsed aren't acceptable or effective - they are, but i just find this works the best for me.

i agree 100% with Christ above (!) that you need to get the goodies off the seeds as quickly as possible and with just a little liquid.
i don't use water on its own - prefer grapefruit juice or a couple of lemons (or any citrus juice really - orange or pineapple is good too - bottle from the shops is good, freshly squeezed is better).
no idea about potentiation or better extraction, but for me a bit of fruit juice negates any bad taste of poppy seeds washed in water. just sort of nutty bitter fruit. used to mix a batch with lemonade, chuck it in a two litre bottle and drink it at parties.
not bad with a reefer and good company on a warm summer night :) :)

so anyway, what i've used for a long time now is a method involving two bowls and a fine sieve.
have big two round plastic bowls, which have a lip on them for pouring and hold a few litres.
i have a big sieve i bought from a chinese grocer that has fine metal mesh on it and sits nicely on top of both bowls (similar diameter). it's nothing fancy, but it stops too many seeds from getting in the mix. there are plastic ones that do the job well, too. i've used this bowl and sieve set-up for lots of different teas and concoctions i've made over the years. sure beats squeezing shit through an old t-shirt. if seeds or whatever get through it, run the liquid through a smaller, finer strainer. easier to deal with and seems more hygienic.

so what i do is get my seeds, and chuck them in the smaller of the two bowls. the sieve sits on the rim of the larger bowl (which collects the infusion, or whatever you'd like to call it).
i then pour enough grapefruit juice into the bowl of seeds to soak and cover them by a cm or so. no scientifically determined amount, maybe something roughly equivalent to the weight of the seeds.

once the juice is in there, i get a spoon and stir like crazy - if you agitate them, you'll dislodge more alkaloids, same as shaking the bottle :)
i do this quickly for the reason mentioned above - you don't want the seeds to soak up the liquid. don't bother boiling or crushing or doing anything else to the seeds - these are all counterproductive. unlike most of these sorts of endeavours, easy and quick is best.
shouldn't take longer than 5 or 10 minutes if you do it right.
not a race against time, but not something you want to sit back and wait ages for either. the only waiting is waiting for the juice to drain out of the seeds.
just tip the seeds, pour the juice, whip up a little frenzy with a spoon and tip the mixture into the sieve in the other bowl.

i find that a 'good' batch of seeds often tends to bubble/foam up slightly when i'm mixing it. shitty well-washed seeds dont really do this. not proof one way or the other (ie inexperienced folks shouldn't dose according to this) but just something i've noticed).

anyway, after completing this process i also do a couple of re-washes.
what i do after these seeds have been sitting in the sieve for a few minutes (once again, not too long - they'll soften up and absorb moisture which both soaks up the desired alkaloids and makes the brew taste funky - the quicker you do it, the cleaner the taste will be!).
so i get the sieve full of seeds and tip them back into the first bowl.
this time though, i pour water onto them - about the same amount as the juice i put in to start with, enough to cover them plus a little more.
i then do the same thing - tip them into the sieve and drain - and repeat this step again.

so i do a juice wash and two secondary water-washes.
this may seem pointless, but what i normally do is strain the first and second wash into a bottle together,chuck it in the fridge for later, and drink the third wash with just a little of the main batch mixed in for flavour. i have a nicer time on this than i do the rest of the batch (the first two washes). definitely worth doing multiple washes.

the mess is a problem, and there are always poppy seeds in weird parts of my flat...it's a little embarrassing heheh.
i like the sieve method though because you don't need a plastic bottle to do it, i think it is easier to handle them (making less mess...relatively?) but it really is up to you.
the juice though - i don't like using water. maybe it's just what i've gotten used to.


it seems to usually create a lot of waste - empty the seed containers (if they're <snip seeds - sometimes like 8 of the 70g packets), half a kilo of spent seeds plus a fruit juice bottle iend up in the bin every time i use (sometimes i use a lot).
i don't like creating so much rubbish - but my absolute favourite way to dispose of the big piles of seeds is to put them into something kinda discreet (go find a littered mcdonalds coke cup!!) and walk around my neighbourhood throwing the seeds absolutely everywhere! even if you use once a year, you're throwing away thousands of potential opium poppies if you chuck them in the bin!
they really do grow themselves, and even without being watered, will grow to maturity and produce pods in a lot of climates and each one of those tiny black things is a lovely juicy opium poppy just wanting a chance at life!
most people have no idea what they are (even in the last little stage where it is obvious what sort of plant it is, most people don't notice them) and they usually get pulled out because they look like weeds for the first couple of months. find an unweeded spot and you might get lucky. even if you don't you got nothing to lose :)
i had a fairly successful guerrilla gardening campaign this year - even though it was half hearted, i managed to get a few handfuls of pods from various little patches i sowed. i'm in perth - not the most ideal climate -not enough rain - but it's better than wasting them, and sometimes you get a nice little surprise in the springtime. i live in the city so i really had very few unmanicured bits of dirt to target (some came up in an alley near my house, some came up between cracks in the footpath) but why the hell not?!
beautify your urban environments, kids!!
oh, i've also been lead to believe that pre-soaking seeds (ie making poppy seed tea out of them) softens the wall of the seed and increases the chance of germination. maybe total poppycock (haw haw, poppy pun) but who knows?

oh, and footsy, i would agree that these days most of the best seeds to be had are from <snip .
they're overpriced, but i find a lot of bulk stores sell lousy seeds...or at least really washed ones. i still go for them sometimes - so long as they're not totally inactive, but this seems to still be a minority of seeds, thankfully.

white poppy seeds don't work, apparently (which is good, last time i looked at them in <snip they were $24 for about 200 grams). strictly culinary, for that price!
basically my tip for finding potent seeds is the darker the better. when they're black and clumpy and sticking together, they're usually the goods, as i am usually confident they are actually going to work. having said that, sometimes they don't that great but tthey're really strong. it's not proof but it's something to look out for.
some brands vary dramatically batch-to-batch, and when a batch of one of the <snip brands comes out black and clumpy i grab as many as i can before they restock the shelves with the grey/blue dry ones. if you see the ones that have a speckled mix of grey/blue and red/brown kinda seeds, they're usually very weak or completely inactive.
before 2006 good seeds were everywhere, then they all went to shit.

if you don't have a habit (as has already been mentioned) it can be a bad thing to get into because obtaining them is so fucking easy and it's hard to cut yourself off from various sources...some shopping centres i've been to have something like 8 different shops you can buy them from.
it's a bit of a dodgy habit, but there aren't many other drugs you can obtain legally and easily everywhere by just being a bit crafty.
besides shit like glue and horrible over-the-counter drugs of abuse, i can't really think of anything. it needs to be respected (and maybe feared?) a little though, because if you drink too much in a night you will get very sick (throwing up the whole next day) aand of course if you get hooked you'll be a lot sicker for a lot longer if you stop taking it.
it's got the availability of nutmeg, but that doesn't mean its phoney opies.

apologies for another of my typical way-too-fucken-long posts, but i dig PST.

love this post dude. even if it is fuckin essay and hence pain to rectum when checkin on iphone at work!

A lot of good advice like the grapefruit juices and the washes technique after.

BUt really agreed in first point in that let not discuss to the general public cause <snip sell out quick and I had some zitty pipmle ranga go'hey dude this looks suss why do u need so many poppy seeds?' I said my wife a fuckin local baker, why can't u have some fuckin manners and mind ur own fuckin business!" and I hate awkard check out moments!

anyone also noticed a good 500 grams extraxted properly lasts like 24 hours??? she styaes in for ages.
I didn't relise until i stopped for 2 days and have the worst costipation shit - basically layed king kongs pinky in the bowl.

Bere warning - if that how long the high is then the withdrawlas are going to be longer to... pretty strong shit
 
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yeah, opium lasts longer than most other opiates because it contains dozens of active alkaloids. i believe they take a long time for your liver to metabolise, hence the enormous duration.
if you have a habit, it certainly holds you for a long time. and yes, i believe withdrawals do last longer as well.
i usually tell people my poppy seeds are for "baking".
a few times i've had people say "are you making heroin or something?" but i figure it is best to just not give them too much of a response. i also try to avoid frequenting the same places too often.
i believe new zealand restricted the sales of large amounts of seeds a few years ago. not sure how effective that was, or if it is still in place, but...i try to keep it fairly quiet. it's a great thing and a terrible thing at the same time.
 
Nice post spacejunk :)

Yeah it's amazing how much rubbish it creates when buying them in small containers. I switched to buying bulk a long time ago and used to get 9KG sacks :D

I also say that I use them for baking...lol. I don't look like I use drugs but people still get suspect when you're buying huge amounts :\ The most recent place I visited for bulk didn't ask any questions, which was nice. One time at <snip> a young girl working their asked 'so do you make tea out of these or something?' caught me completely off guard and I just told her I did.

Yeah I'm often not too good at keeping things quiet, I always want to share the goodness with friends/whoever.... But will be making a conscious effort to keep it on the low down from now on. Don't really want anyone to get addicted to poppy seeds, as that draws lots of attention.

I never used seeds before 2006, and at first I found most the time I'd end up with real weak ones...you can still get high just have to use heaps. Have found quite a few good sources over the years though...seems like stuff sold loose and not pre-packaged in bulk is the best bet, strange how you've found the opposite?

I've found that the really black ones that clump together seem to be the best, but I've had bunk ones that were like this too. I like to see some poppy straw in with my seeds :) but even that isn't a totally reliable indicator.

It's odd that the tea lasts so long...I've even found it longer lasting than methadone. Main active would be morphine which has a 2-3 hour half life.
 
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Awesome essay spacejunk ;)

I think my 'casa casa' seeds were active, but they were hard to deal with. As soon as they touched liquid they expanded into a big lump of slime which I couldn't get much liquid out of all. I only had 100g though (and it was quite expensive even for that, a lot more than supermarket prices...) and all I really felt was a bit of an opie itch.

Now I have a shirt filled with poppy seed slime and I have no idea what to do with it, the seeds are too slimey to brush off into a bin (or even onto the ground for some guerilla gardening - which I will definitely be trying with my other seeds ;)) and I'm worried if I wash em down the sink I'll block the pipes. Hoping that they dry out :\
 
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I have a pretty solid technique ans I really ge the 'don't over soak and leave for ages' i found this out when my second wash totally fucked me more than the first once as all the good stuff was in the seeds. I use grapefruit juice to and believe it does something if not that much.

LOL at blocking the sink. I use laundry as impossible to clean completely and my fiance does not know :(. if there is noone about i throw them all over the front garden but usually just wash them down the flats laundry sink. If the block it then it won't be long now!! man my flat mates are suss on me hanging in the laundry for like 20 min obviously not washing and then keep chuckin the dirty t shirt in the washer. Reapet this through the night and then nonone else can use the washer.
 
Yeah it definitely works. I just use <snip> these days. 3 of those for 720g is usually enough. <snip> used to have a 275 palstic bag full of really black looking seeds near where I work I cleaned them out and now they just seem to get the token 35g bags in now. Pointless. There is a <snip> that sell seeds by the 500g block. I occasionally pop in there to buy some but feel too much like douche most of the time. Other times I just dont give fuck..... fuck them right? Ill do what I want.

The but <snip> brand seem to work ok.

Theres a site online that sell some if anyone want the address PM me. Its a herbal/misc type site so dont see it as sourcing/dealing really.

Also Im really too lazy to do more that one wash... people really think its worth doing more than one? I shake the bottle for a solid 10mins..... 5mins with fairly warm water which results in a nice brown from on top of the seeds.... then another 5 mins with a citrus added (usually GFJ for obvious reasons.

Also as far as taste.... I usually just mix it with GFJ and I really dont mind the taste at all. Reminds of a natural earthy type flavour. A nice change the chemically tasting CWE liquid Im used to. :)
 
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^ I agree with the earthy taste, I don't mind it at all. It reminds me of old books.

I'm really liking poppy seed tea. The longevity is great. I think I may have even found a new fav over my ol' faithful codeine ;)
 
Yeh I like the taste with grape fruit juice. Earthy and the high doesn't feel chemically dangerous like CWE gives me. I never smoked opium proper, but I feel 500-700 is getting close. Combined with weed and vodka I get sometime nod action.

Better not get fuckin hooked on this shit. I can feel it creepy into the psyche.
 
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