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Poppy Seed 'Tea' - Exp - Great relief from new prep. method

Bump...was wondering how many people have had success with the alcohol extraction from seeds, or if anyone tried an AB extraction?
 
"As discussed above, the extraction of morphine from opium may be accomplished by stirring and/or heating, preferably refluxing, opium with a basic solution of an alcohol capable dissolving morphine in its neutral, cationic, and/or anionic form. Preferably, the alcohol is a C1-C4 alcohol. Particularly preferred alcohols include methanol, ethanol, and isopropanol. Mixtures of alcohols may also be used. Methanol, the preferred solvent for the invention, is a excellent solvent for extracting alkaloids from opium. Almost all of the alkaloids, especially morphine, are highly soluble in methanol. Advantageously, the alkaloids are soluble in methanol in their neutral, cationic, or anionic forms. The addition of an alkali, alkaline earth, or other suitable base to adjust the pH of the alcohol, to about 9, so makes the extraction process more efficient. This results in more alkaloids and less impurities being extracted into the alcohol. Refluxing opium in a basic solution of the alcohol, preferably methanol at about pH 9, for approximately one to two hours extracts more than 90% of the morphine present."
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http://designer-drug.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/morphextr.html
 
So what kind of results did you get with the smokeable "sticky black goo"? And could you post the yield that you got from X amount of seeds? thanks
 
as soon as i can get some methanol or ethanol i shall try this.

what on earth is methanol/ethanol used for? so i can get some, lol
 
Juggalotus said:
I have heard of Laudinum, I remember seeing something about it in a movie called "From hell" I think is what it was. Anyways, this guy would drop it onto a sugar cube and put it into a drink (I think tea) and would have these visions that would become real.

Anyways, now I am more excited to try an alcohol extraction, knowing that morphine is in fact very soluble in it.

Thanks DexterMeth for giving my brain a reminder. Let me know if you do come out with anything worth using. I would be very curious about attemps and yeilds. I hope to get some seeds this weekend and try a little extraction myself.
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My grandparents owned a pharmacy in the early 1900's and I read some of the old books that my grandfather had that described laudanum production. (He did NOT make it, but had books describing its commercial preparation).

I understand that Laudanum was produced (commercial factory production) by soaking (huge amounts) of dried poppy pods in warm water for a day or so. The mixture was then strained through very fine medium so that the remaining liquid contained the opium alkaloids dissolved as a solution (and not containing particles of opium pods). The liquid was evaporated under a vacum (which causes water to "boil" and evaporate very quickly without raising the temperature and destroying the opium alkaloids).

When the liquid was evaporated, it left a gummy opium stuck to the "pot". (This describes factory production so it was a huge pot). The opium gum was scraped off and dropped into alcohol and allowed to soak for several days, until the alcohol would NOT dissolve any more opium. This was strained to remove opium particles leaving a solution of opium alkaloids and alcohol. The alcohol / opium solution was mixed with water using a formula that produced a liquid that had the ideal amount of water and alcohol / opium mix for maximum absorbtion via the stomach.

I think that most of the laudanum produced in the USA used imported Opium so they skipped the part where the opium pods were used and just dissolved the imported Opium in alcohol.

I used to collect pharmacy items and I had several Laudanum bottles with the labels intact. The labels listed the number of drops to give to babies, children and adults for various ailments. Most of the labels I had showed babies on the labels and emphasized the use for relief of "teething" pain. It also had the number of drops listed for adult headaches, backaches, etc.
 
ifonly said:
as soon as i can get some methanol or ethanol i shall try this.

what on earth is methanol/ethanol used for? so i can get some, lol
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Try Methylated Spirits from any hardware shop or even supermarket.

Its a mixture of 98% Ethanol and 2% Methanol, methanol is poison and they put it in there to stop people drinking it.

It evaporates clean though but you should make sure its all gone using a warm hairdryer maybe.
 
do most places wash their seeds? if i go to a grocery store will those seeds be worthwhile? where do you fellas get them?
 
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