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Poppy Pods... Don't Work!! HELP!!!

I am simply not a fan of oral morphine and codeine. An injection of heroin is far more euphoric, without the side-effects. I dont think pod tea tastes that bad, and its very easy to make, it just doesnt provide the high or rush im looking for. If you have injected dilaudid, oxycontin, oxymorphine or heroin, you would know the true euphoria that opiods can create, beyond the buzz from pod tea.

All of the above are pretty short lasting highs, but IV methadone, lasts 24 hours, and can be very euphoric and will guarenteed to make you nod for many hours. You could also take methadone orally, since the bioavailability is so high, almost 80% of it is well absorbed and metabolized orally, and lasts even longer than IV. Despite claims of people saying methadone is not euphoric, this is largely a myth, methadone is a potent pure mu- agonist that provides a good long lasting high, the only time it stops becoming euphoric is when taken daily for a long period of time.

Levorphanol, when injected, provides a nice rush, an extremely euphoric high, and lasts easily 12 hours. If you dont like IVing, wearing a fentanyl patch lasts 3 days, and is much more euphoric than pod tea, with much less side-effects (fentanyl does not affect the histamine or kappa receptors, and morphine and codeine do, resembling an allergic reaction and can cause dysphoria).

So, pod tea is pretty down there on the list. It might be ok for opiate withdrawal, but the stimulating properties from the thebaine and the tea's kappa activity could likely accentuate the withdrawal. If you have a low tolerance, and you want an earthy sort of high, i guess it may suit a certain type of people, but i think most people would much prefer an oc80 to a cup of pod tea. If you like the effects of pod tea, why not just take some codeine T4's and some morphine tabs, which would produce a similar high, without the side-effects from the unwanted alkaloids such as thebaine, noscapine, papaverine etc.
 
star rather then going off on a tnagent why dont you give us your recipe and any advice you have dealing with pods.don't you think your post might be alittle more construcive that way?


oh and how does grapefruit juice make it stronger?
 
Grapefruit juice can potentiate opiates (and benzodiazapines) because it inhibits cytochrome P450 enzymes in the liver, which is what cimetidine (tagamet) does as well.

But I really do not suggest taking grapefruit juice with poppy tea, because it has a significantly negative impact on the metabolization of codeine, and inhibits its conversion to morphine. So i definately dont agree with the statement:
And to make it stronger, drink a big ol' glass of 100% white grapefruit juice just prior to drinking the tea. Makes it MUCH stronger
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You are simply wrong. Grapefruit juice definately does not make it much stronger, i believe you are experiencing a placebo effect if you think it makes the tea much stronger. Codeine is the second most important alkaloid in poppy tea, and by taking a large amount of grapefruit juice, you are only making the tea weaker.

Quinine is a much better compound for potentiating all opiates/opiods, it increases the permeability of the blood brain barrier, and in the case of codeine, quinine aids its conversion into morphine. Quinine water does not contain enough to be of any use, but there are 250mg quinine sulphate (quinine is simply an isomer of quinidine, which is stronger but hard to obtain) capsules that are sold in aquarium supply stores, and is used for killing bacteria in fish tanks, but is not designed for human consumption. I have personally taken these capsules many many times; i've had no problems and they seem to be of good quality. The brand name is "quinsulex", and not all aquarium stories carry it, but it shouldnt be too hard to find. Taking 2 or 3 of these 250mg capsules would potentiate poppy tea to a much greater extent than would grapefruit juice, which actually makes the tea less effective. Phenergan works well too, but is not available over the counter. Nevertheless, any doctor would be happy to prescribe them to you if you call and say you have the stomach flu, and you've had phenergan before and it worked very well to supress vomiting. A combo of phenergan and quinine would be very good to potentiate pod tea, and most other opiates for that matter.
 
Like I said before, the pods that he is using are the same exact ones that I have and are using... well used. I took a normal 20gram dose and was having a good nod out... I don't understand why he isn't getting anything out of these pods. He is preparing them basically the same way that I am preparing mine as well. Perhaps some people just can't get the full effects from the Poppy Pods....
 
I have to respectfully disagree on one point with negro.. on the grapefruit juice thing. Everything he stated in his last post is spot on except for juice and the codeine deal. Codiene comprises only an average of 2% of the alkaloid mix of pods. So I could care less if by drinking GF juice I inhibit the breakdown of that little bitty 2%. I would drink the juice due to the fact that it helps slow the breakdown of most opiates, including the other 98% of PT alkaloids. So it does not get you higher, but the peak of the experience will be lengthened.

And sitar, you have stated things that are painfully obvious. BTW, this is not a thread about how to make things taste better, please try and stay on topic, thanks.
 
Yes hungarian, i suppose codeine is not really instrumental to the high, the inhibition of the codeine's metabolization is somewhat trival. Still, I definately dissagree with the statement:
And to make it stronger, drink a big ol' glass of 100% white grapefruit juice just prior to drinking the tea. Makes it MUCH stronger
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The only thing it will do is possibly lengthen the experience.I definately dont think a "big' ol'" glass of grapefruit juice will make the high "MUCH stronger". In anycase, your better off taking a few cimetidine tablets, instead of drinking all that grapefruit juice, which does essentially the same exact thing.
 
UPDATE!!

I tried the methods you guys gave me, I tried boiling it on low for a while, and I did get a decent reslut. Nice and mellow high lasting for a long time. I like it :)

thanks for all your help.
 
^ good to hear i also recentley made putty to be inbgesed son. i guess ill just swallow teh balls i was thinking baout disolving it in vodka,not sure yet though if nayone has any putty suggestions ,they would be greatley appreciated.
 
as for the puddy swallow like they are pills. This is the best way to take them. The other day I had an idea concerning puddy, what if you where to take some kind of pill ( oc or hydrocodone or morphine what ever is avilable or your favortie) chrush them up and sprinkle them on the puddy before it is to be sraped and rolled into small balls. I think this would help with the stickness of the puddy balls and it would help to high out also. Anyone tried this before?
 
I don't know about the last posters idea's, but for putty: You can pack it into gelcaps, or roll the putty in sugar(easier to swallow). If the putty is really sticky, that may mean too much water is still in it, and you must let it lay in a shallow pan and evap that water for a day or two. You could use any high-proof alcohol to dissolve the putty into, and then just drink that. Effects come on quicker that way.
 
hmm mine evaporating in abou t 5 hours.. i made it like reguler tea heated it fdowento a 1/4 cup like i would have with tea then used a rigged hot pan and it evap. in abourt 5 hours..... waited a day..i had a tolernce but still got off on about 23 grams worth. ebven if i ruin some of the alkaloids(wich i dont hink i did) its still a hell of alol better hten drinking that vile.
 
Like i said in my post, i usually add a little bit of fine pod powder to the putty to make it less sticky and more managable. You wouldnt want to do this if your goal is further refinement.
 
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