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Poppy pod dose for the tolerant.

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Hi there guys let me start off by telling u that I'm not new to Opiates and am currently on 42 mls of Methadone and in the past have tried poppy tea with say 10 pods and didn't feel much at all to be honest.Okey I did feel something but nothing near like any type of nod, or stone feeling, I now that pods vary in potency and that the last ones i used were Tasmanian Whites with pink centre's, but the my next ones are a mixture of many =D . I have been told by a guide line U can tell potency roughly by how bitter and how dark the tea is, and I would say that my tea was an amber brown with some bitter but bearable, so my question is should I prepare it so that my tea is more darker and more bitter in future, I have a good 2-3 weeks to wait till they are going to be ready ,also I should mention that it is all fresh material mashed up in a pestle and mortar,I do not have a food processor or blender.
 
Just like you said, it is very hard to gauge potency of pods.. Due to variances in size, strain, how fresh they are, alkaloid content, etc.. That said, since you are on methadone maintenance, I would not expect much from pods, short of taking a near heroic dose. I am not very experienced with them, so I cannot offer much else, unfortunately.
 
Okey maybe I'm thinking when Ive been on a H binge and feeling WD maybe then I would notice them.Thats when I last used them, and it definately took the WD edge off, so will prepare some maybe for that horrid occasion.
 
If you measure the pods in grams instead of number of pods, that helps quantify it, but potency is still variable.
I've heard that 10g is a good non-tolerant dose. So maybe try 15 or so grams?
 
There is no telling. Poppies are incredibly variable in terms of potency, to the point that some are many times more potent than others. Start low and work your way up.
 
Well guys, I did it again but this time like a nooob I used a little to much water I used roughly 3 pints of water = 35- 40 medium Tasmanian pods and the solution was a pale amber colour and the taste was only ever so slightly bitter, well put it this way was very bearable to drink but did notice say 30 minutes later a slight nausea which told me something was happening.

Anyway I drank roughly a pints worth, and decided to save the rest to add to the next brew, so off I went picked another ten medium sized pods (FRESH GREEN PODS btw) chopped them up as small as possible, and into the pestle and mortar.

Now I find the problem is, that I'm either still not breaking down the material up enough to release all the alkaloids, which is possible,??? i do heat up the water, but not to the point of boil.I heat it up so that I can still dip my finger in the solution and them leave to steep for a good 2 hrs.

Well this next mix with the extra added 10 pods , and the solution from the last batch is definitely alot darker, but still not very bitter,??? It only makes me to believe that I'm still doing something wrong.Dont worry i still have some for drying out, and will try the dry poppy method just to see if I'm rite.I dont think I'm heating it up enough to burn out the alkaloids, although it could be possible,?? whats your thoughts.??


I must say I last used on Tuesday, and now its Thursday and I'm staring at my next dark amber murky looking half pint full to drink in the next hour, it definitely did something, but obviously no way enough effects like a new user.Only this time my guts feel off it,! could be of 2 reasons, 1 the pod tea I drnk last night at 11 pm, with 4 cans of larger,(didn't get any sleep at all but really felt the larger something special, weird) The pasta from the week end, ??? lol. All I no is my guts are off today but I know this brew needs to be drank, but looking at it is off putting it just looks like a dirty gloup of murky water yak, hahaha,.
 
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^Pale amber color and lack of bitterness indicates weak tea. If the pods were strong, you'd have trouble not getting dark tea even if you didn't crush very well. Even if you didn't do an optimal job, you should still have decent tea if the pods are good.

Green pods don't sound like any pods I've used, though there can be good green pods of course. I'd personally question the pods though.
 
^Pale amber color and lack of bitterness indicates weak tea. If the pods were strong, you'd have trouble not getting dark tea even if you didn't crush very well. Even if you didn't do an optimal job, you should still have decent tea if the pods are good.

Green pods don't sound like any pods I've used, though there can be good green pods of course. I'd personally question the pods though.

Hey pegasus thanx for the reply well these have been grown locally, and I can tell U they have no problem in growing at all, U should sewe the thickness of some of the stems at the bases like 2 inches wide,.

Maybe its the UK climate, or the wrong source of specimen, they look like Tasmania hybrids white and purple, flower I dunno has anyone else done it the fresh way.I have some of my own that I have grown in my garden will give them a try, but I find it strange that i'm always getting weak tea.It like my 3rd attempt now :\ I'm 100% sure there Papiver Somniferums due to their cabbage look in there leafs, as well as the heads ,(maybe there just the bread seed variety) I have some that look alot more like the Gigs more walnut barrel looking, with the actual band near the top crown all I can do is try them.also I'm on methadone and only take the pod tea when I'm in WD after a opiate binje, wish me look.
 
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green pods as in fresh? tea is made with dried pods; no blender required, crush, break up fine , bring to boil turn off heat instantly, let steep. tastes bad? try sugar etc. I'd make about 10 pods for a couple big mugs b ut varies with pod strength.
Green pods i'd have left on the plant and milked them for the opium! Dry tea pods should be tannish, brittle, crushable. I dump the seeds out first, save them for planting, no real opiate benefit in them unless desperate and you have a LOT of seeds.
 
Not to pitch in where its not wanted but assuming your on MMT why on earth are you switching to pods? Are you not urine tested? Im not criticising because ive been in a position where maintenance just wasnt doing it for me and I sneaked another opiate in while the clinic were looking the other way. Its just that being on maintenance I wouldve thought your goal would be to get shot of all opiates once and for all - switching between maintenance and recreational use is just a painful process particularly if you're using long acting opiates.
 
Hey there, I think it is unlikely the OP will pop back to reply to you as this thread is pretty old.. agree with you though that on maintenance it is definitely best to abstain from other opioids..

Closed, pm me with any queries :)
 
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