🧑‍🌾 Gardening 🧑‍🌾 Poppy leaf laudanum?

[daturetard]

Based on this I believe the average morphine content of these leaves is .3-.4 (they're aprox. 3 months old). I have a few grams of them (not measured, but at least 35 leaves, ranging from 3 to 8 inches) and am thinking about extracting them into a laudanum tincture with lots of other herbs.

The first time (and only so far) i made laudanum it was like 8gs (again not weighed, but it was a generous dose for me at that time- naive) of heads and ~50 ml of 70% moonshine, downed in one shot. I know this isn't really something you'd know, but how much more thebaine is likely to be in these than morphine? Is it even worth it? I would probably start with half of it and research + monitor for signs of thebaine poisoning.

(Unrelated, but I smoked [unrefined, so took a lot of toking] 'orientium' as I dubbed it, oriental poppy sap [was 14 or so and had no weed], and felt like I damn near seized while having heart palpitations, and ridged ass muscle contractions, I think I'd recognize it. Also i looked at a screensaver of a river after smoking it and was convinced for 5 mins it was a moving pic. Think i had to touch the screen to make sure.)

Tldr; how much worse is the ratio of "bad" to "good" alkaloids in poppy leaf vs head? THESE are actual P. Soms, not oriental.

 

[negrogesic]

I have not had much luck with extracting enjoyable beverages from the roots or leaves. Stalks can produce an ok effect, but requires a good 10x the amount of material when compared to pods. But despite having read that exact same old document that you read, and having high hopes, no amount of simple leaf or stem extract was enjoyable to me. Maybe it was a little sedating, other times it gave me a headache (roots especially), but unfortunately I found no use. If you had an absolutely huge amount of stems and leaves i think perhaps isolation of the alkaloids could be worthwhile, but the yield would be so low that the cost of chemical reagents and time involve extracting the morphine from say 300 pounds of poppy leaf would make it a low reward undertaking.

 

[daturetard]

Other times it gave me a headache (roots especially)

Thank you for the input. I think it may have been that you got a headache because the (very) toxic compounds sanguinarine and hydroxysanguinarine are the predominant alkaloids in the roots. Ate some of them once and got about the same thing, puked em back up pretty quick.

 

[Opana313]

Laudanum....I hear of this in movies or shows set back in the early 1900s..what is it exactly just comes from leaf and root..make opium out of it? Or well something close to it I'm guessing?

 

[daturetard]

Laudanum....I hear of this in movies or shows set back in the early 1900s..what is it exactly just comes from leaf and root..make opium out of it? Or well something close to it I'm guessing?

Alcohol extract of poppy with other herbs sometimes