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poppers before DMT

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as we all know, breakthrough experiences occur due to rapid absorption of large quantities of DMT. The faster (and more) it can be absorbed the greater the chance of a breakthrough.

my idea is to use vasodilators to help this happen. isobutyl-nitrate (commonly known as poppers) is a strong vasodilator (which causes its euphoric effects).

can anyone think of any negative effects that this combination (in the right doses, i.e. no overdose of isobutyl-nitrate) would have?

from what i can tell the increase in blood pressure caused by the DMT should balance out any pressure drops associated with poppers... however i may be wrong.


have any of you tried inhaling poppers a few seconds before smoking DMT? if so how does the experience compare?
 
While not dangerous I would think the combination would be foolish... I've done poppers and the high is extremely "woozy," i.e., dizzying and sort of confusing... a very PHYSICAL sensation that highlights bodily sensation to the extreme... which is where is gets euphoric, and why they are used in particular during sex. Never tried smoking n,n,dmt yet but it seems the point of that is a mental experience in which your mind is leaving the body awareness far far behind. But with the body tethered to it because of the poppers buzz, I guess the conflict might be extremely unpleasant.

But its just a wag (wild ass guess) so what the hell do I know.

Why not try it and report back to us if it is fantastic or awful? You know, for science. ;)
 
I'd go for a short-acting selective bronchodilator. Something like orciprenaline (brand name Alupent) is commonly prescribed to people with asthma, and is probably pretty easy to get online if you don't know anyone who has any. I can't say it'll actually have the effect you hope it will, but it is much more selective and unlike poppers doesn't have any psychoactive effects that could clash with the DMT. I've never done poppers but from the descriptions I've read it doesn't sound like it would play nice.
 
^^^whenever I smoke weed with a certain friend of mine who has asthma I always make him give me some puffs on his inhaler it definetly helps absorbtion in the lungs
 
every good breakthrough ive had off pure spice has been under the influence of about 32oz of some malt liquor... vasodilation ftw... im guessing we should all try a few different things.

do you know what was in your friends inhaler?
 
^Search out selective beta2-adrenergic receptor agonist asthma medications. I assume they're all fairly safe for occasional isolated use. You should be able to get a list of potential candidates you can use. Then just get whichever is most convenient for you to obtain.
 
I would definitely not be fucking around with adrenergic receptors using DMT, although B1 is probably not half as bad as A1 agonism.

My general experience with combining DMT with just about anything that has an effect on your respiration is that shit gets weird and it messes more with your ability to breathe right. I never used a bronchodilator though, but mild opiates and/or stimulants have only gotten me into trouble.

From what I can tell mullein is a better choice.
 
I dono man, this sounds like a bad idea...

I hate that feeling from poppers.... how your face flushes red and the high itself feels more like a deliriant than a euphoric drug.

I dont know how it would combine with DMT.

I find that breakthroughs are NOT dose dependent though.

Sometimes I can smoke a mother fucking half gram of DMT over the course of a night without breaking through once, and we are talking several 50mg doses in a night.

Other times, I will break through off of merely 25mg or 30mg.

It depends more on set and setting for me than it does on dose.
 
the outsider said:
Hell no, it has an overwhelmingly orgasmic body feeling
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Well, that's interesting, thanks. Makes me (a nympho at heart haha =D) all the more motivated to try it soon.

RE: the note on being on 32 Oz malt liquor, very interesting. I might speculate that the added relaxation from the combination of the alcohol, AND the relaxant anti-anxiety effects of the HOPS in the beer might help you be laid back enough that it allows you to quit worrying and "holding on" to consensus reality, and feel comfortable enough to allow yourself to be pulled through the door that the DMT opens in your mind.

AND: since Hops is a close relative to marijuana, I find myself extremely curious as to the impact/interactions of weed on DMT, general effects, likelihood of breaking thru, quality of experience when on weed and also breaking thru, as well as when NOT breaking thru... does it make the non-breakthru "buzz" worse or better or murkier or more wierd or confusing, or does it seem to improve it somehow? Of course I realize everyone is going to have a different take, but just wanted to hear some thoughts.

Maybe this thread should be renamed "N,N,-DMT Combinations" or "assistants" as the real motivation seemed to be "might poppers help me break thru."
 
I'm vaguely curious about this - I find it very hard to get anywhere on DMT, almost every time I've tried it, I smoked as much as I physically could - three or four big lungfuls from around 30mg, and never manged to get more than a mild buzz and some wavey visuals. I just simply could not take any more into my lungs.

The one time I had a decent experience, still not a break through, was after doing MDMA and ketamine, which I assumed made it easier for me to smoke more.

I'm definitely not about to try doing poppers first though, that sounds like a recipe for disaster!
 
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