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poor mans speedball

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i am a bit confused regarding the term speedball. does it specifically refer to heroin+cocaine or can it be any stimulant+any opiate. i have meth and opium and am confused how to go about it. should it be meth first opi later or vice versa or should i consume them simultanously?

i am not into i.v at all so ROA are limited to smoking and ingesting/snorting ONLY.

is meth and opium technically a speedball?
 
A speedball is usually Heroin and Crack or Coke where i'm from, but there's nothing stopping you creating your own personal pseudospeedball. I used to always mix opium and mephedrone, or Meph/MDMA and GBL (wonderful combination). Even Kratom and Mephedrone is wonderful.

It usually specifically refers IV'ing H and Coke, but essentially refers to a stimulant and downer combo. It's just a term at the end of the day, it's up to you what you want to do and how you go about labelling it, but the important part is staying safe. It can be fairly dangerous if excessively abused and without proper care.

I suppose meth and opium could be called a speedball, it's just a term at the end of the day. It would be like calling a Mojito a Mojito but using vodka instead of rum. I mean, it's essentially the same thing, but not quite.

I am not one for IVing either...I would usually drop 500mg of Mephedrone into a shot of vodka which I would add 2ml of GBL to. Do this several times a night with plenty of Meph lines, joints and plenty of drink and you're golden. However, this is terrible advice, given it is such a dangerous combo. It's lucky I survived some of the combinations and amounts I used to do....I should have died on several occassions, truly.

I'm veering off topic though...I would say just go for lowering your dosages of each by half and ingesting them however you wish. If it was me personally, I would ingest both of them intra-rectally or orally in the same vehicle.
 
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A speedball is usually Heroin and Crack or Coke where i'm from, but there's nothing stopping you creating your own personal pseudospeedball. I used to always mix opium and mephedrone, or Meph/MDMA and GBL (wonderful combination). Even Kratom and Mephedrone is wonderful.

It usually specifically refers IV'ing H and Coke, but essentially refers to a stimulant and downer combo. It's just a term at the end of the day, it's up to you what you want to do and how you go about labelling it, but the important part is staying safe. It can be fairly dangerous if excessively abused and without proper care.

I suppose meth and opium could be called a speedball, it's just a term at the end of the day. It would be like calling a Mojito a Mojito but using vodka instead of rum. I mean, it's essentially the same thing, but not quite.

I am not one for IVing either...I would usually drop 500mg of Mephedrone into a shot of vodka which I would add 2ml of GBL to. Do this several times a night with plenty of Meph lines, joints and plenty of drink and you're golden. However, this is terrible advice, given it is such a dangerous combo. It's lucky I survived some of the combinations and amounts I used to do....I should have died on several occassions, truly.

I'm veering off topic though...I would say just go for lowering your dosages of each by half and ingesting them however you wish. If it was me personally, I would ingest both of them intra-rectally or orally in the same vehicle.
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How does a shot of vodka with half a gram of mephedrone and 2ml of GBL dissolved into it taste?
 
Pretty much any dopaminergic + any mu opiate(oid) = a speedball imo, especially now that pharmaceuticals are more common in the drug culture. I was a big fan of the methylphenidate + morphine combination for some time. Of course there will always be those who believe that only IV heroin + cocaine makes a true speedball.
 
I think with these 2 components are like a speedball, speedball is just how you call it on the "scene", so how would be if you smoke both sametime? cause you need the rush that comes if you smoke. Snorting lasts imo too long till the effekt is up.

edit: Here in europe(AUT) we call it speedball if you i.v consume an opiate(oid) and something dopaminergic, but even, if you put 2 substances wich 1 is a slow one (like benzo's) and the other is 1 fast (like mdma, etc..) its called speedball but you have to consume i.v

But i think with opium and methamphetamin you got right good with smoking it
 
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Drug slang is what you make of it- if you want to call any upper/downer combo a speedball, go right ahead. I'm sure some people would say that a benzo/upper combo isn't really a speedball because there isn't any opiates, just like I'm use that some people would say only heroin + cocaine is 'really' a speedball. Similarly, I see no reason why snorting/plugging or even swallowing upper/downers wouldn't be a speedball, although I'm sure for some folk it refers exclusively to the IV ROA.

It doesn't matter, I've never had a 'classic' speedball due to the complete unavailability of coke in my country, plus my general dislike of cocaine (had it overseas, wasn't impressed with how much of an asshole I was, not to mention the throbbing headache once I came down), but I've got plenty of experience with upper/downer combos.

As mentioned, methylphenidate/morphine (as well as methylphenidate/homebake heroin & poppytea) have all been worthy combos, I've also tried dexamphetamine/morphine which was the most euphoric and synergenic upper/downer combo I've tried. For a while I got quite into eating high doses of zopiclone/temazepam and snorting ritalin, as well as snorting triazolam/ritalin mixed (depending on what I could get my hands on). The strangest speedball I've taken, which quite a few of people I know are quite into (particularly people on MMT) is meth-an-done, methamphetamine/methadone. The thinking being that they both last about the same length of time and if timed right the initial rush of the methamp is fading as the methadone starts glowing properly. I plug the methadone and snort the meth, most of my friends IV the lot (the methadone here has no additives- it doesn't even have a preservative, you can inject it, once it's micron filtered it's perfectly safe to IV)

The main thing that I'd caution about is that uppers obviously stimulate your cns, which offsets the depressant action of the opiates. If you are taking drugs with radically different half-lives (for instance heroin Vs methylphenidate) then you may take a dose of opiates than while initially fine (when the stimulants are helping your breathing) may result in an overdose or simply suddenly nodding far harder than you had anticipated (which could be extremely dangerous if you are, say, driving when you unexpectedly start to nod) once you start to come down off the uppers. On teh flipside, taking methamphetamine and heroin could result in you being able to handle heroic doses of meth that end up biting you in the ass when you've come down off the smack by are still geeked the fuck out.

The meth-an-done combo is probably the most dangerous that I have mentioned and the risks associated with methadone make it unsuitable for most people (and risky evenfor people on MMT). Have fun and stay safe.
 
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i've never been into super hard drugs.

that said, back in college we use to crush up xanax and adderoll, mix it all together and blow lines of it.

we called em "belushis".

i'd also get a giant cup of coffee and blaze a big joint every morning before class, called it my "hippie speedball".
 
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i'm not an IV user, but those that are say the only thing that is or is like a speedball is coke and heroin in the same shot. they are adamant about it.

but who cares? i bet opium (where the fuck do you live?) and meth feel great.
 
Just to add something HR-y, be careful mixing uppers and downers - not because they are inherently dangerous, but because (especially with the classic heroin and cocaine combo) it can be easy to take too much downer, not realise it while the upper is in full force, then have a respiratory arrest when the upper wears off.

Respiratory depression leading to hypoxia plus the tachycardia and vasoconstriction caused by cocaine sounds like a magic combination for a heart attack, too..
 
You can call it what you want, but effie has a good point. Be careful in mixing any opiate with any stimulant.

I'm going to close this now because its been discussed many times.
 
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