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Police use technology to target drug users

Im under the impression they already have these in victoria?

Police vans with a funny looking camera on the front near the license plate that essentially does the same thing, cept it goes up and down the freeways.

If we keep going this way, 5 years from now we wont have any human rights because of these fucking dogs.
 
DoS Death said:
Im under the impression they already have these in victoria?

Police vans with a funny looking camera on the front near the license plate that essentially does the same thing, cept it goes up and down the freeways.

If we keep going this way, 5 years from now we wont have any human rights because of these fucking dogs.
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Thats probably to scan for cars that aren't registered
 
Are you saying these laws are subject to U.S political agendas? At the moment they are having much luck with their agendas there, let alone over here.

I believe Proposition 19 failed by 6% of voters in Cali. Looks like Recreational weed use will be legal there by this time next year.
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Jakeperson, what's the law got to do with any political agenda, in the U.S.A. when it comes down to drugs? The D.E.A. makes the laws, enforces the laws, reaps in the product. Politics and law-related matters are two very broad fields of profession, yet they somehow correlate and wrap themselves in together, forming a wide spiral of confusion, which suckers like yourself and many others have succumbed to. California, which is bordered up with Baja California, with Tijuana being its capital, is plagued with violent crime. Mexican drug cartels gun down around 10,000+ people per year, about 10% of which are innocent citizens/Mexican L.E./Army forces.

Who gives a fuck, seriously? People who do drugs and drive should have been aborted.
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maxalfie said:
Seems its just another way for the Old Bill to get a few more arrests on their books without having to work too hard. Lazy bastards.
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couldnt have said it better myself. and its fucked up how the constitution is becoming obsolete faster than anything ive ever seen.
 
chitownbrown said:
couldnt have said it better myself. and its fucked up how the constitution is becoming obsolete faster than anything ive ever seen.
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How is it unconstitutional? I actually know nothing about Australia's constitution so I'd like to know..
 
Jakeperson said:
Are you saying these laws are subject to U.S political agendas? At the moment they are having much luck with their agendas there, let alone over here.

I believe Proposition 19 failed by 6% of voters in Cali. Looks like Recreational weed use will be legal there by this time next year.
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NotAgain!! said:
Jakeperson, what's the law got to do with any political agenda, in the U.S.A. when it comes down to drugs?
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I just asked you that.

NotAgain!! said:
The D.E.A. makes the laws, enforces the laws, reaps in the product. Politics and law-related matters are two very broad fields of profession, yet they somehow correlate and wrap themselves in together, forming a wide spiral of confusion, which suckers like yourself and many others have succumbed to. California, which is bordered up with Baja California, with Tijuana being its capital, is plagued with violent crime. Mexican drug cartels gun down around 10,000+ people per year, about 10% of which are innocent citizens/Mexican L.E./Army forces.

Who gives a fuck, seriously? People who do drugs and drive should have been aborted.
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You missed the point, I was just pointing out (as you did too) their political agenda isn't working out so great. Maybe it is working better over here but thats only because we are from 15 years in the past.

Also, I don't think any one disagrees with you that people shouldn't drug drive, however would you like to get pulled over every time a cop car passes because when you were younger you got caught smoking a joint in public? I don't think that's fair at all.
 
I know jake. Seems like you've been trialing me ever since I lost my old account when the BL renovations came and went. We cool?
 
this is totally fucked.....

come to think of it, this might be the reason why one of my good mate got done a few months back. Is this technology available in SA? if it is, i think this is how the piggys got him :(
 
I know this is sort of off topic but i need to mention this and not sure where.

........The sentences range between three and six months' jail - less than prosecutors had sought and well below the maximum penalty of 12 years.............




http://www.smh.com.au/world/light-s...ts-sends-chilling-message-20110729-1i2tw.html

Cant find the link for the guy who got caught there with half gram or so weed and got 2 years or so jail yet a murderer or attempted murderer gets way lesser sentence. Where is the justice here? Or is it because he was possibly a tourist? Im not really sure. Does this piss anyone off? It ticks me off badly.
 
In NSW they have cutted large numbers of Speed/Safety Cameras on roads due large numbers of complaints from the public (was on news last night or night before), and guess this is what's going to replace the disconnected Cameras....
 
oh also... councils are looking at using this technology for car parks/parking to ensure you have paid your fees :)
 
People should rise up and spray paint the camera lenses black.. just wear dark hoodies with double-bandana face covers with holes for eyes..
 
headdah said:
... Is this technology available in SA? if it is, ... :(
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Of course it is, weren't you reading? The <technology> has long long been available Australia-wide. As others have pointed out, the number plate scanners would alert cops to unlicensed or unregstered vehicles, for many years. The same database contains details of your prior convictions. There is nothing new about the technology whatsoever, they're just using the same technology, but getting it to flag to the officer when it detects a number plate associated with a driver having a prior-conviction.

As has been suggested, if tested, it would seem likely this would be deemed as unlawful searches. Once someone has paid for their past crime, they are not allowed to be targeted and harassed. Just as it is unlawful to single out and search, say, aborigines or asians for example based on "well, he's black, so he's more likely to be carrying the wacky".

Random road-side testing is lawful being random. The WA police can claim it is a waste, since conviction rates are extremely low, but that is the only lawful way to do it. That is also the only way to occasionaly catch new unknown traffickers or DUIs. Conviction rates are also low because everyone knows at any time driving they could be random-tested. The number one point of random testing (like mobile speed cameras), is as a deterrent - not conviction. Police (officially) are meant to try to deter you from breaking the law, not try to convict people caught breaking the law. Only once they have failed to deter you and you still break the law then they are to try to catch you and convict you - but why? To try to deter you from breaking the law again in the future. That's why speed cameras have 3 x large warning signs on approach - the idea is they want you to slow down and not speed. Only if you ignore all 3 signs then you are fined, and the point of the fine is to reinforce in your mind not to speed again (certainly not there anyway).

So visible RANDOM testing is a deterrent and is what the law is aimed to achieve.
Targeted testing is about re-convicting prior-offenders on the assumption they are predisposed to being guilty until proven innocent.

If it becomes acceptable to target-test drivers rather than random-test, and it becomes generally known, then drivers with no prior conviction will assume it is safe to start driving under the influence, traffick, etc, as they will have a much-dimished chance of being pulled over. Until and if they are caught the first time, and then they stop.

Of course, whilst it is obviously illegal for them to have the cameras automatically flagging prior-conviction drivers, there has been nothing stopping them from observing drivers - whether their rego or license is ok or not - who come to their attention for whatever reason - came around a corner just a little wide, swerved a bit, driving an low-rider, MRX, slowed quickly when they saw the cops, or just doing the beat, and the cops are free to randomly choose of their own accord to bring up on their screen that driver's record. Based on that record that they randomly chose to bring up they are free to ignore the driver or pull them over for a search.

So - I see three possibilities - it is possible that either your friend was simply picked up in a random check, or he came to their attention first somehow - drove a bit erratically, got pulled over, saw he had a prior record then and they did a detailed search, or a possibility is that police in some or all states have long been using this existing technology already to flag drivers with convictions, and they simply have (wisely) not made it public knowledge.
 
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pisspotnrock said:
good post, my thoughts exactley..

can anyone give their 2 cents on whether havin a previous 'drug record' as a juvenile (juvenile caution) affect someone in this scenario? I'm under the impression all under 18 offences (cautions) get wiped when you reach adulthood but you cant trust this cunt of a system anymore :X
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Basically you don't have a criminal record that employers can track but if you manage to pull off a double homocide, no doubt the cops will pull this shit out in court and use every bit of it it against you. In other words, I believe that your record is still on the system but it'll be infeffective in this type scenario unless you do something more serious.
 
So if they pull you over three seperate times for reasons based purely on your past & you test clear all three times, does that mean you get free pass on all future tests?
 
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