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Police Brutality Thread

Hearing a junky call this guy "fetanyl floyd" when there is such clear evidence of his being murdered is the epitome of boot licking
LMAO nice projection. I was never addicted to or a major fan of opiates. The itching and nausea were not very sexy of a high the few times I experimented with low prescribed doses of codeine, oxycodone, and hydrocodone. I never touched heroin as like George Floyd it ruins people's lives and overdoses resulting in death are super common.
 
out of control

for the 9 minutes and 29 seconds that derek chauvin had him pinned to the ground with his knee on his neck, floyd was handcuffed. he was not out of control.

He would have died in a crackhouse/shooting gallery or what kids call a trap house today, or been dumped and left to die in some back alley by his dealers who did not want to take him to a hospital, call EMS, etc. This sort of thing happens ALL THE TIME. If you use dope, pills, coke, hard drugs many of them are laced with fent so if you must use them do it around people who will help you so you do not overdose and die from fent and meth like George did.

so. many. assumptions.

alasdair
 
Yeah, maybe you should just finish reading his biography. The bit after he was released from prison.
I did. He had not changed at all, even if his family will now pretend he did.

I can overlook the drug charges but home invasion, robbery, torture, and threatening to kill a woman? George Floyd was a career criminal and overall bad guy, imagine if that was your wife/partner, sister, or mother he did that to. Would you be crying tears over his death or feel bad for him at all?

He also had children that had no idea who he was. So you can add deadbeat dad to the list.
 
for the 9 minutes and 29 seconds that derek chauvin had him pinned to the ground with his knee on his neck, floyd was handcuffed. he was not out of control.



so. many. assumptions.

alasdair
Why do you have to lie? George Floyd took lethal doses of opiates/fentanyl, and METH, was going into histrionics before he ever exited the car like he did when arrested before, resisted arrest, did not go with the police, and asked to be put onto the ground. Chauvin was on Floyd's shoulder, not his neck and George was not choked or strangled to death, he died from the fentanyl and METH.
 
Chauvin was on Floyd's shoulder, not his neck

bullshit.

georgefloyd01.jpg


alasdair
 
why do you have to lie?

alasdair
Did you even watch all of this video? Or any of it? You are completely ignoring anything that does not fit your alternative reality or opinion, and are not looking at the facts, or evidence of what really actually happened.



George Floyd does everything I wrote. He was pulled over for driving intoxicated. Would you have preferred that the police had let him go, ignored him, let him die from a fentanyl and meth overdose, and crash into someone and kill them?

 
You are completely ignoring anything that does not fit your alternative reality or opinion, and are not looking at the facts, or evidence of what really actually happened.

fancy. could say the same about you. how about that?

Would you have preferred that the police had let him go, ignored him, let him die from a fentanyl and meth overdose, and crash into someone and kill them?

of course not. i would have preferred that he'd been charged as appropriate and have his day in court. i would have preferred they hadn't killed him.

alasdair
 
if he hypothetically did put a knee to his neck

now who's completely ignoring anything that does not fit your alternative reality or opinion, and are not looking at the facts, or evidence of what really actually happened?

the image clearly shows the officer with his knee on floyd's neck. not his shoulder.

alasdair
 
Those are not racist myths. George Floyd died from an overdose of fentanyl/heroin and METH.

If you watch this video he is nodding out, and before he is even out of the car he was driving on lots of drugs he is saying he cannot breathe.



He goes into the same histrionics as he did when arrested before:

 
i'll still take the word of two medical examiners who actually performed an autopsy on his body over you.

with respect, i think you're adding 2 and 2 to get 5 and you're as guilty of ignoring things that don't fit your narrative a those you criticise.

i'll agree to disagree at this point. have the last word if you like :)

alasdair
 
It is possible to overdose and die from even 2 ng/ml of Fentanyl. It hapoens to opiate addicts all the time.

No, it is not, and no it does not. The blood serum concentrations used for anesthesia by medical professionals ranges from 10-20ng/mL, WAY above 2ng/mL. The lethal dose is higher than that. For opiate addicted people, the lethal concentrations are going to be higher, possibly MUCH higher depending on the severity of addiction. Your statement is flat out false and it shows you do not have a clear understanding of what you are talking about. The amount of meth in his system was very low, too. And besides that, meth actually serves to increase the amount of opioids required to suppress breathing enough to kill, except in overdose situations (levels in the blood of 0.15 to 0.5mg/mL are associated with psychosis and are still under the level of overdose... Floyd's blood concentration levels were MUCH lower than that). You are either being willfully ignorant, or lying to suit your narrative.

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22890811/

from the source study said:
Results: The manners of death included 40 accidents, 36 natural, 8 suicides, 5 therapeutic complications, and 3 undetermined deaths. Among the accidental fentanyl intoxication deaths, 32 of 37 involved substance abuse. The majority (95% ) of the 37 accidental deaths involving fentanyl were multi-drug intoxications. The substance abuse deaths had a mean fentanyl blood concentration (26.4 ng/ml or μg/L) that was over twice that of the natural group (11.8 ng/ml). Our analysis suggests a relationship between total patch dosage and mean postmortem fentanyl concentration up to the 100-μg/h dose.
(emphasis mine - note that the mean lethal concentration of 26.4ng/mL involved 95% of the subjects being under the influence of multiple other drugs, too)

I don’t care what kind of person Floyd was. Why does it matter? Really like? At the end of the day it wasn’t Chauvin’s place to punish Floyd for anything. It was his place to bring him in to custody. That is it. He used excessive force for a crime that wasn’t even violent. On a guy who was compliant after putting him into that hold and having 3 other officers beside him for support. Chauvin wasn’t under pressure from anyone. The crowd were standing back although they were expressing concern. Like any normal person would when they see someone being suffocated.

This, exactly

You know George Floyd was a career criminal, right? He stole lots of cars, wrecked them, sold guns, and broke in a random stranger's home, robbed her, beat her up, threatened to kill her and her fetus/child, and this is not normal behavior, he was never going to change, become 'reformed', had zero empathy for anyone at all he had hurt, and prisons and jails are full of people just like him

I don't understand what's so hard about this. I don't care what Floyd's history was, or what kind of person he was. Unless he was currently assaulting a pregnant woman or endangering the lives of civilians, it is entirely inappropriate for cops to kill people who are under arrest, or to use excessive force to endanger their lives. Our entire justice system, and the justice system of any civilized nation, relies on the right of people to face a jury of their peers in a trial to determine their guilt or innocence, and face their punishment according to their crime. Allowing Chauvin to escape any consequences for his actions sets an extremely dangerous precedent whereby it empowers cops to act as judge, jury and executioner if they feel like it. This is the last thing we want. It is NOT the cops' jobs to punish criminals, it is the cops' jobs to arrest them and let them face their day in court. THAT is what this is about. Contrary to what I'm sure you've snap judged me for, I am not trying to make Floyd out to be a hero. I think he wasn't a good man. He deserved to be arrested that day. He did some bad things in the past and maybe even that day, I don't know. It is not about Floyd, it is about not letting a cop get away with his actions, actions which, if allowed to pass, will set a dangerous precedent for the future.

Do you want to live in a country where cops can choose to abuse people they're arresting just because they feel like it? I don't, and I seriously doubt you do, either, if you're being honest. But I imagine you're going to react to this post with the laughing reaction to show your disrespect of my time spent trying to engage with you in honest debate, and disregard what I'm saying because it doesn't support the narrative you wish to push in this incident. I am not looking at this even as a racial issue, it is a police brutality issue, and we need to draw a line in the sand, because police brutality is a problem we all face, and we need to do something about it so that it stops. It happens to people of all races, and it's wrong, and dangerous.
 
If I got in a fight with a drunk guy and pushed him over, and he died from hitting his head (but would not have fallen if pushed sober) I would still be liable.

Even if they were something horrible like a rapist or a bootlicker.
 
Good morning.

Sorry for the off topic post. Just thought I'd let ya'll know we got new body cam footage, released a few hours ago, of another little angel (no pun intended of course) by the name of Adam Toledo.

Apparently he was sent on his merry way on 29 March 2021 by the Chicago PD.

Why are these videos all being released only now?

Trying to find the actual uncensored footage i.e. all the links I've found thus far are on mainstream media channels and the action is censored. You know. Helps the narrative. They'd better be careful with this. Wouldn't surprise me if by now some people just assume that once you get shot by a police officer you turn into a fluffy blur and that's the end of it! :ROFLMAO:

And what's with these still images of these perpetrators that surface? You know the ones i.e. those little angelic faces, father holding his bouncing baby, butter wouldn't melt, those types of pics.

It's a fucking joke. And anybody that buys into this shit at the expensive of law enforcement? Well. I'll leave it there.

Here (although I'm sure few will bother i.e. easier to take a case in isolation than to face overall reality) (eyes wide shut type of thing). Go take a look at some of the videos on the link below.

 
^ how would you characterize the events leading up to his death, in a sentence or two?

alasdair
You trying to be funny or what? :ROFLMAO:

I actually cannot because I cannot find footage that's not been censored at the critical moment. But I'm sure it'll surface.

Shit is the same though. Whichever way you slice it. Just moving through this thread backwards (when you replied): I see the video of Mr. Ray DuBose. I mean: do I really have to explain, to all, what I see? The pattern I mean?

For some reason there's a pattern on this thread too. These pillars of society are not dead because of the initial crimes that were committed. They're dead for failure to comply or resisting arrest. And it matters not their color or criminal background or anything else at that point (although one could argue if they're were indeed pillars of society then they'd comply) (you know: like the rest of us mere mortals).
 
On topic (for now).

I heard on FOX last night (radio) (I'm a fucking sucker for punishment huh):

In Mr. Floyd's trial I didn't realize that the jurors were going home every night and will only be sequestered once deliberations start. Is that for real or did I misunderstand what I heard?

I was under the impression that they were all holed up in a hotel or something and were not allowed to discuss the case with anyone and not even among themselves?
 
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