Poetic License

[plazma]

Self writes
Ego dissolving into ink
Drip drip
Eyes distracted
Sun's overhead
Invisible grey sun

Poetic licence
To kill
Questioning
No entry
Analysis forbidden

Split personality desires
Anonymity
Greatness
Sharp sounds
Serpentine synergy
Alliteration
Obliteration

Poetry is like
Simile
Houses built from glass
Carefully crafted
Without privacy

Generalisation
Exaggeration
Information
Deception

Dig deep beneath the poets art we not all liars once?

-plaz out-

 

[cherub]

once again a piece i like very much of yours,,

glad to see it and reading it was enjoyable.


cin

 

[silverwheel]

nice. I like the rhythm the most, a persistent force that drives throughout.

 

[katmeow]

An interesting concept to explore.

I like it very much, expecially this part:

Split personality desires
Anonymity
Greatness
Sharp sounds
Serpentine synergy
Alliteration
Obliteration

Not sure about the use of the word sun in consecutive lines though?!?

Sun's overhead
Invisible grey sun

 

[vurtomatic]

Dig deep beneath the poets art we not all liars once?[/I]

-plaz out-

i dont believe so, or i certainly hope not.

i see it as a more... contradicting process. usually inspiration comes from extreme emotions and we are totally submerged into them so it comes through in our words as a palpable force, for personal words to travel with an impact upon readers is not a small matter.

contradicting because, as lost as we are, there is still a certain part in our minds that stand apart, detached, observing what we're experiencing and making notes to be able to put it down in words.

we are both actors and audience, involved bystanders trapped within.

 

[Taliana]

^^ good response

and good piece plaz... havent posted on yours in awhile... enjoyed this. as the guy mentioned before, i liked the rhythm also, and subject matter...flowed well. got me thinking.

 

[up all night]

Generalisation
Exaggeration
Information
Deception

You think that's all poetry is? What about for self realisation, narration, salvation, depiction, characterisation, confession, admiration, attraction...

Poetry is not always about people unnecessarily increasing the drama in their life. Some days I write to remember, some days I write to forget but I always write because it's part of a healing process. And vurt is exactly right, our inspiration comes from the extreme emotions but it's not as if we think that's all there is to life.

 

[plazma]

Some very good points guys. Vis a vis the 'truth' as it applies to poetry. I think that it's impossible for artistic expression to be the truth, because of what it is, that is, the world, as interpreted by the artist. If we come down to semantics, it could be 'a truth' but not 'the truth'.

The purpose of the poem is not to say that all poetry is self gratification and lies, far from it, but to just perhaps pose a question, as a poem, as to whether or not it is possible to write poetry (or prose) and have it be the truth.

Thanks for the comments guys.

-plaz out-

 

[punch e punch]

This is an interesting topic for discussion.

I think people write for all sorts of reasons. I know I've written stuff in the past to get me thru hard times and I actually believe that it worked. And I think that what was so cathartic about it was the honesty that I expressed in the writings.

However, I don't write to explore the darker emotions that I feel (I'd rather just get beyond them) and I generally think that people who do are a bit self-indulgent. But that's just my position. And it took me years to get there.

It reminds me of a U2 song lyric-


"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief/All will kill their inspiration and sing about the grief."

Cheers Plaz

 

[onlysweetpea]

However, I don't write to explore the darker emotions that I feel (I'd rather just get beyond them) and I generally think that people who do are a bit self-indulgent. But that's just my position. And it took me years to get there.

It's funny tho, because most writers I know, whether they be good or bad writers, professionals or life journalists or whoever...they've always concentrated most on the darker side of their emotions as a WAY to overcome or to understand them.

When I do it, it's more like I'm talking my way through something and sometimes i come out on the other end totally enlightened, or something else happens and i forget, get thrown off course and never go back.

I think people who write about their darker emotions are ok. I think people who concentrate on their darker stuff AND THAT'S ALL THEY TELL PEOPLE OR SHARE WITH PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY, those people are self indulgent.

I picture the typical artiste who says things like, "It's black, like my soul."

I did so enjoy plaz's piece. nice job. i, for one, like the last line as well and agree the one person's "truth" is not necessarily a universal "truth".

 

[vurtomatic]

I generally think that people who do are a bit self-indulgent. But that's just my position. And it took me years to get there.

my impression of self-indulgence: people who wallow in pity or their depressions because they enjoy it or primarily use it as a means to write, people who chase after the darker emotions or actually set themselves up so.

yet, i can say the same thing about fluffy feel good, superficial writings.

(just as thinking artists should fit a mold of being jobless and suffering for their "art")

and ultimately, it is the writer's responsibility to go through that self-examination after or when, writing a piece of work. i dont see the point of writing if the writer is not being honest, what purpose would that serve and why bother?

one might get away with lying to others, but lying to ourselves... that is pitiful and would be the same regardless of what form it takes.

i find writing to be very good for self-reflection, regardless of the form it takes.

more importantly, i'm not trying to express any universal truths or even my personal truth... im not a philosopher trying to impart some great teaching, i know my limitations and would never (hopefully) want to be on that high horse.

i write because i enjoy it.

i love the language and i love exploring, tearing it apart and rebuilding something mine out of it. i enjoy playing with it like a child with building blocks or his/her first set of crayons and watercolours.

and if another person enjoys them, all the more gratifying and flattering, but that should be a coincidence of sentiments, interests and tastes, not an intention.

 

[spinkle]

It's all about the pathetic fallacy. Your words carry weight because they are the specific words that you chose, but their importance is an illusion--an assumption on the part of the reader that you are a responsible, sufficiently accurate narrator to unfold the story in truth before them...which isn't always the case. Poetry is just as much a work of fiction as it is art, and lies often sound more beautiful in print. Honesty is not the objective. Art is.

Have a great day.

 

[neverwas]

Generalisation
Exaggeration
Information
Deception

well this was an interesting read. i quite like reading your work plaz abnd this is somewhat different to what u normally write. but still good

i think people quite often read wrong things into what is read through poetry...unfortunantly it is what they themselves belive that causes the problems. not all people who write poetry lie through it.

i use it as a form of expression. it is the only way i can get out what runs through my head. most of it is about the one topic and really only makes sense to those that know me and hwat i went through but i still like to tshare my thoughts and feelings.