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13eny

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how the fuck am i ment to detect PMA or PMMA loads of them about in the UK at the current time and dont fancy consuming one as a few people have died off them RIP

I have a tester kit but it doesn't say anything about PMA



Thanks. 13eny
 
I believe the mandelin test kit tests for PMA
However it wouldnt be a very accurate way to tell but i guess it wouldnt come up a solid positve for MDXX if it had PMA in it
also pay attention to the reports on Pillreports website (and select your area) and you will find that usefel.
 
Is PMA really that harmful? Or is it like BromoD where people just skew the dose response curve too much?
 
^ Yes, it's EXTREMELY deadly.


It has MAOI action, while also having heavy serotonin releasing properties. This causes a severe reaction and will likely lead to hyperthermia, seizures, Serotonin Syndrome and eventually death if untreated.


PMMA is less deadly than PMA, but has still killed hundreds.
 
Interesting. I always thought people just took too much, or the pressed pills just had too large a dose. the response curve is really high for it. Theoretically with a correct dose, could you get any positive effects from PMMA/PMA?
 
^ As far as PMA goes, it's called Dr. Death for a reason. I have extreme doubts it would produce any pleasurable effects.. although some enjoy piperazines, so it's hard to say. Any dose that would even be worth taking carries a risk of death though, so it should be COMPLETELY avoided.


PMMA on the other hand has seen some intentional use.. although not a lot. This is what Shulgin has to say:

Why would there be interest in this particular compound? The track record from the comparison of active compounds that are primary amines, and their N-methyl homologues, has shown that, in general, the stimulant component might be maintained, but the "psychedelic" contribution is generally much reduced. MDMA is, of course, an exception, but then, that particular compound is a one-of-a-kind thing which simply defies all the rules anyway, and I drop it from this kind of reasoning. And as 4-MA is a pretty pushy stimulant with little if any sensory sparkle, why bother with the N-methyl compound at all?

Enough editorial. Back to historic technicalities. In truth, METHYL-MA is a well studied drug, at least in animals. In both mice and rats, it is an exceptionally potent agent in creating the state of catatonia. Animal studies, prompted by the clandestine synthesis of METHYL-MA, have shown that there is indeed locomotor stimulation and some central effects, but these effects are somehow different than those of a simple amphetamine-like agent. The experimenter's conclusions, based on its structural resemblance to 4-MA and its proclivity to produce catatonia in some animal species and the ever-present possibility that there might be unsuspected neurochemical changes to be seen with its use, are that human experimentation should be discouraged. I have come to the same conclusion, but in my case this is based on a much more succinct observation: I tried it and I didn't like it.
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^ and that was before they even identified the MAOI action, now we are certain there are very dangerous "neurochemical changes" that this drug puts into play.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 110 mg) One hour into it, my pulse was up over 100, and I was compulsively yawning. There was some eye muscle disturbance, a little like the physical side of MDMA, but there was none of its central effects. But all the hints of the cardiovascular are there. By the fourth hour, I am pretty much back to baseline, but the yawning is still very much part of it. I might repeat this, at the same level, but with continuous close monitoring of the body.
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http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal130.shtml




Other people who have overdosed on it said they weren't even that high, at all. They just got EXTREMELY hot (like, 105-107 degrees f) and started seizing out.



So, while you CAN take a dose of it that won't kill you... the side effects seem to LARGELY outweigh and positive ones.. especially that whole risk of death thing :p
 
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