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PMA - First Time - If You Have to Try it, do it At Home

stonedbear

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It is Important to note here that PMA (Para-MethoxyAmphetamine) is a very dangerous drug with neurotoxic long term effects along with dangerous acute effects that occur along side the psychedelic effects. PMA should never be taken as a recreational drug and pills should be avoided when PMA is a suspected constituent. Many deaths have been attributed to PMA in the past 40 years



right.. so.. i`m the bastard that actaly knew they had PMA in them and still did it.. heh.. :!
okey.. let`s start from the top:
23:00: took half of a pill - snorted - (i knew it could be wrong, but i wanted to be all intens from the begining, knowing it can`t get any worse).. so i crushed the pill.. really easy to crush, and when i cut it i saw it had a stange coating of some sort on the exterior, then it had alot of colour aditives and in the middle a white cap-looking powder.. i knew it was PMA from the begining, so i was expecting not to be really nice, but i decided to try my luck..
so i crushed the red mitsu and snorted it.. i have to give a note to the PAIN!!! it litterary fucked my nose, brain, eye, ear, neck and paralised half of my head.. all good :) .. it really told me then it was not gonna be an easy task..
after the pain, i started to vomit.. really bad vomiting, not like heroin (no.. that is like eating candy) and started to feel really ill.. something like a really bad cold.. with visuals from the high temperature.. my gf helped alot with cold water and ventilation (thank god i wasn`t clubbin`)
after i vomited my brains out for a while i laid down and started to try to find something enjoyable in it, to help me get over it or something.. i wasn`t panicking at all (note to everyone: no matter how hard and bad it is NEVER PANICK.. you`ll only make it worse for yourself)
so i started to shiver alot feeling hot and cold in the same time and the stupid feeling of sickness all over.. it actualy feels like poison..
about an hour into the intesity i started to giggle and laugh, but it felt like an anxious laugh.. like i was going nuts and laughing about it..
right now i`m after about 4 hours of ingestion and still not feeling right.. hard to drink, hard to eat, but i`m doing my best on this subject..

so leaving the sarcasm away and all.. don`t try this! and if you have to, use your brain the whole experience.. it will help you in and out.. and most important do it someplace where you are confortable and ready any time to crash somewhere and try to have someone else with you to help you with it.. it could easily fuck your judgement due to the temperature rising.. and when you start to feel cold, take my advice, better cold then dead.. pee alot and eat/drink, conversate, keep yourself in reality

right now i`m pretty sure i`m not gonna die, tho the feeling that i can face it kept me alive so far...... and my gf....... :))

sorry for the long post, kept me somewhere between falling down and falling down further..
if you ever run into such a thing, think of it as a bad flue.. a really bad one.. and try to pull yourself to reality. i know i shouldn`t have done it in the first place, knowing it was pma, but i do have faith in my body and most importantly i rarely felt like i hit a limit.. this was one of it..
nothing pleasent, and if you try it for the visuals, it`s not worth it, they are roar visuals nothing pleasent about them.. just brain fuck and hard to balance reality - death.. it`s really a bad flue, nothing else.. like when u`re on a flue for a week and it`s really agravating and all you can do is wait till it`s over (in a good way..)

good luck, and stay safe - remember drugz are suppose to be fun, but when it turns out bad you have to have the power to face it -

substancecode_PMA
 
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^ yea well...i guess curiosity didn't kill this cat, but it was damn close
yup, don't do this...i agree
 
come on.. you don`t have to make a fuck feel this bad about something.. ya.. i know it wasn`t supposed to be done, but i was really curious to see what the fuss was about, and since i got the chance, i went for it..

DON`T DO IT!!!!!!

ya, it really is wrong, and you should not even take it in concideration.. but i posted my experience here mostly because since i was on it, why not tell people how i managed to stay alive.. maybe it could help another fuck later, you never know when someone hits a pma pill not knowing, and i did realise there is close to nothing on this internet about it.. cuz i did have my moments when i wanted to see how long it lasts, side effects and stuff.. but not any real trip reports, and erowid has a trip report that got it all wrong.. they actualy say it was kinda fun

i am not sorry for doing it, i will not do it again.. but i do once in a while wanna test my limits, reminds me that it can`t all be good and funny. ya, i almost died, but i didn`t.. that`s what really matters to me, and it did before i snorted it.. i knew it will not be pleasent, but since this, the only notable thing that made me feel close to this was quite an overdose of dxm with beer.

anyway -- i`m now 8 hours after ingestion, my head hurts similar to the serotonin burn of mdma, and i still feel a bit sick all over, but much better.. kinda speedy, but a bad speed, a really roar one and mild..... again: not worth it!
i`ll try to fall asleep asap.... but i kinda doubt it`s gonna happen, and after this crazy brain-body burn, i could really use some sleep.. if it doesn`t let me sleep then i could totaly say NOT WORTH IT!

anyway.. some from BL really helped me over this, when google and erowid let me down.. this is a really nice comunity!

what is really odd about this is that while i was here with a hard time, a friend of mine who is really burned out form the last few days of mdma, weed, key, lsd and God knows what else, took half of a pill from the same batch oraly, and the crazy fuck went clubbin` :| i`ll call him special from now on..

okey.. this includes my pma trip if you can call it this way, DON`T DO THIS, and if you happen to hit a pill with pma, my advice is the ambulance or something related, if the doctors know how to handle it and won`t get you over-heated. But do take measures as soon as you start feeling ill, because this could get serious, but keep youself together while on it (really helpes).

thanks again for the help, i knew it was stupid b4 i did it, but i rather get it once while i can respond to it, and see what are the grounds i`m dealing with, rather then hit one in a club and dunno how to handle it (and now you know why i did it...).
don`t judge me for this, maybe you realised i didn`t want to kill myself, and even more, that i`m not that new to substances.. i wouldn`t have done it if i wasn`t sure i can get over it.. but take my word on it and don`t do it if you know it`s pma..
good luck, and hope you never have to hear about this again, but if you do, and you are capable of some movement, be sure BL will help you get over it.. they`re good guyz :)

1 hour later: ya.. can`t sleep, but i`m gonna keep working on it.. maybe some valium will help, and maybe some 5htp pills for the serotonin burn, i don`t want to take ibuprofen for the headache, since that shit rised body temperature.. i`m not in the mood of smokin` and i wouldn`t want it to hit me back like i sometimes get after mdma when i smoke.. tho it would help me with my headache.. anyway.. back to bed, i`ll let you know how i feel after i wake up.. i had lsd planed for tonight, i`ll see if i`m able.
 
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God God, I curse the people that manufacture this shite... :X

Glad you're okay, bear.
 
To be frank, back in the day, I would actively try to get PMA. 1/2 of one of those and 1-2 'real' pills was actually extremely enjoyable.

I curse the asshats that make it and sell it as MDMA though.

Have you ever had PMA before, Jam?

I've never snorted it though, perhaps oral ROA is a better bet...less flaming rail road spike up the sinuses and whatnot.
 
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i never had pma b4.. i always had enjoyable experiences on pills (mdma, mda from what i recall), and i do snort pills often, for the faster peak and intensity..

right now my head hurts like hell, really painfull and obviously i can`t sleep tho i got quite an ammount of valium workin on it for a while now..
dunno what to do.. feel like throwing up again.. shivers... comedown?
 
MattPD said:
Have you ever had PMA before, Jam?
No, and I have no desire to :)

I already don't take MDx substances because I find them way too hard on my body and mind. I can only imagine PMA, a known toxin, to be a nightmare.
 
I've heard positive reports of PMA too. Maybe it varies from person to person like MCPP. Also snorting it possibly may have caused you to feel worse then if you would have tried it orally.
 
If you had antifreeze, would you drink it out of curiosity? Honestly what was the point of posting or doing this? To show the world what a badass you are?
 
^ Geez guys like you have never done something stupid?! I wish we could collect all of the stupidest things that all the posters in this thread have done and berate them for them. Doesn't that sound like fun?

Thanks for the report, glad you lived to give it. :)
 
^ Agree, please tone down the talking down/holier than thou attitudes here, guys. It's clear that the OP knows he did something dangerous...I think its fairly open/honest of him to post this as a heads-up to others out there that this stuff is capable of really causing some damage.

We recently got another report in PD forum about a guy having a very rough experience with this stuff.

Watch out for it! test your pills, if thats not possible then keep your doses low and don't mix/match different pressies (MDMA + PMA is a VERY dangerous combo).

take care of yourselves,
samadhi smiles
 
Damien8787 said:
^ Geez guys like you have never done something stupid?! I wish we could collect all of the stupidest things that all the posters in this thread have done and berate them for them. Doesn't that sound like fun?...
Agreed. Actually, when I think about it, it seems to me that ingesting one PMA pill is probably not much more dangerous than ingesting an unknown amount of atropine/scopolamine via the datura or brugmansia methods.

And while we might look at datura/brugmansia usage as "shamanic," we tend to be condescending (I'll admit this to myself) about PMA usage... :\

And I'm not posting a TR about my 3-day blackout with 750 mg of Xanax (and subsequent stay in the psyche ward) six weeks ago because I'm too....well, smart. :D

Unless y'all really wanna hear about it...
 
^^^^ Well put it this way--I could be the poster-boy for the high therapeutic index of alprazolam.

Besides, you know how long it takes me to construct a TR...
 
I read a report a while ago about a controlled dose of PMA being taken by someone who was very aware of the possible outcomes, and was ready for anything. WIth the right dose and setting he actually found it enjoyable.
 
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