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crazyhairman

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i was thinking of plugging a few mills of molly soon , should i do the whole point, iv tested this batch befor but iv never plugged before. dose it burn ?, im kinda a scardy cat. i know its clean i just dont have alot to eat so im torn between this and waiting till who knows when...
 
I'd just plug the whole point, dissolved in water. Don't go skipping the guide that Bsiren suggests as it's the definitive guide to rectal admin.

I've plugged MDMA plenty of times and there was no burn.
 
"If plugging wasn't socially unacceptable, everyone would do it." (Read that on some medical-journal online.)

I don't know anyone who's plugged or admitted to plugging.
 
^I have seen rectal diazepam for seizure intervention (found it at work).

Plugging is only as uncomfortable as you make it for yourself psychologically. In many applications it results in a faster onset, greater bio-availability, and less discomfort than putting something up your nose.

I would just plug the point. Use an oral syringe and 3-4ml of room temp to warm water.

There shouldn't be a burn. 3-4ml of water is hardly enough to notice, lay on your left side if it concerns you.
 
NUK3D, i think you will find water to be more effective. The colon is meant for absorption over breakdown. I think vegan caps also dont break down nearly as easily as the gelatin ones in the stomach or any other part of the body.
 
the thing is that the duration and intensity of the roll don't seem to be effected that greatly when pluuging rather than eating the mdma. some say it is more intense others say its the same. some say its a shorter roll others say its the same. I have yet to see anythig that shows that pluggging gives any real benefits other than you bypass the stomach. this is a good thing for people who can't hold oral mdma down. other than that it is just a novelty administration method IMO.

no real benifits unless you have stomach issues and a high rate of doing it wrong and wasting your mdma is a better reason to not plug than just an oversion to stuffing things up your corn hole.
 
Theoretically speaking, it should make the roll last much less, but up the intensity.
 
the thing is that the duration and intensity of the roll don't seem to be effected that greatly when pluuging rather than eating the mdma. some say it is more intense others say its the same. some say its a shorter roll others say its the same. I have yet to see anythig that shows that pluggging gives any real benefits other than you bypass the stomach. this is a good thing for people who can't hold oral mdma down. other than that it is just a novelty administration method IMO.

no real benifits unless you have stomach issues and a high rate of doing it wrong and wasting your mdma is a better reason to not plug than just an oversion to stuffing things up your corn hole.

In many cases it proves to have a higher bio availability. The stomach is full of acid and enzymes responsible for the breakdown of organic molecules. These drugs we eat get broken down by the chemical enviroment your throwing it into. MDMA is a relatively stable molecule so its not as important with this one but the point still applies. Getting high off a drug is generally about getting that drug into the bloodstream and then through the blood brain barrier.

The stomach is not the most direct way to the bloodstream. The directness makes a world of difference. You throw a solution of your drugs into an organ meant for absorbing solution into the bloodstream and then tend to become a bit more powerful compared to an oral dose.




sub-lingual is probably about the same as plugging in most cases.
 
Splinters Thoughts, With MasterSplinter

I dont have many rules when it comes to MDMA...

sure I test my beans and take my breaks...

but the main rules is:

Never stick anything up your ass when rolling. This includes drugs, sex toys, dicks, fingers, cucumbers, bananas and anal beads.

If your down with that, so be it....but street drugs up your ass? You could mess up your intenstinal track by scraping the lining and this could causes toxins to seed colon cancer later in life.

Just pop your beans the old fasioned way
 
In many cases it proves to have a higher bio availability. The stomach is full of acid and enzymes responsible for the breakdown of organic molecules. These drugs we eat get broken down by the chemical enviroment your throwing it into. MDMA is a relatively stable molecule so its not as important with this one but the point still applies. Getting high off a drug is generally about getting that drug into the bloodstream and then through the blood brain barrier.

The stomach is not the most direct way to the bloodstream. The directness makes a world of difference. You throw a solution of your drugs into an organ meant for absorbing solution into the bloodstream and then tend to become a bit more powerful compared to an oral dose.




sub-lingual is probably about the same as plugging in most cases.

I can see your case but it still doesn't disspell the number of people that say there is no measureable difference. the only sure fire way to plug effectively is cumbersome to say the least and requiers a great deal of extra effort on the part of the user.

OK great, your are telling me I can get high quicker, there could be some sort of precieved increase in effects...sounds good...but I have to first buy and oral sryinge, crush up a pill/molly and put it in the syringe, put 10ml of water in and shake until the mdma is totally disolved then cram it up my ass and shoot the solution in there but even after all that I still have to lay on my side for 15 minutes to besure it doesn't leak back into my shorts. not only that there are conflictiing reports on weather or not I am going to get the increased effects I am looking for?!?!

Now take a real good look at the process and tell me if it is not (for a user that is healthy and has no other reason to do it) a novoelty ROA
 
I can see your case but it still doesn't disspell the number of people that say there is no measureable difference. the only sure fire way to plug effectively is cumbersome to say the least and requiers a great deal of extra effort on the part of the user.

OK great, your are telling me I can get high quicker, there could be some sort of precieved increase in effects...sounds good...but I have to first buy and oral sryinge, crush up a pill/molly and put it in the syringe, put 10ml of water in and shake until the mdma is totally disolved then cram it up my ass and shoot the solution in there but even after all that I still have to lay on my side for 15 minutes to besure it doesn't leak back into my shorts. not only that there are conflictiing reports on weather or not I am going to get the increased effects I am looking for?!?!

Now take a real good look at the process and tell me if it is not (for a user that is healthy and has no other reason to do it) a novoelty ROA

I haven't had any desire to eat pressed pills in a very long time, I have sampled a good number of research chemicals that tend to be far more novel than whatever the hell ends up in most of them. In a personal standpoint, I typically only plug powders. Most of these will readily dissolve in less than a ml of water making 3ml more than enough. This is such a tiny amount of liquid that your not even really aware of it.

remove plunger from syringe. empty capsule or desired dose into oral syringe. replace plunger. draw up 1-3ml of water into syringe along with some air, shake for a few seconds, push air out. put against ass and press plunger. The entire process really takes less time than it would be measuring out individual capsules for oral consumption.

Your colon absorbs 1-3ml of liquid in a matter of a minute or two and unless there is some underlying condition present, you will have no issue with having to hold it in or any need to lay on your side.

I would bet that the solubility of MDMA in warm water is into the hundreds if not a few hundred milligrams per ml.

If you use warm water, you likely wont even be aware of it in any other manner than being high as fuck. Speaking as someone that doesn't mind putting drugs in their nose or mouth, plugging has all of the rapid onset of snorting without the discomfort. 2c-x has a mild burning sensation but its the only one of memory and it didn't burn like the unholy fire of a thousand suns that it did with snorting, just enough to be made aware of.

Speaking of the 2c compounds, they make a wonderful example of better bio availability through plugging as opposed to oral or nasal administration. With the 2c series, intranasal dose is generally considered half that of oral. But it burns like the fire of a thousand suns or like you just snorted drain cleaner and then got hit in the face with a hammer, and that is a description from the perspective of someone that consider themself a masochist... It makes it an almost non-viable way of taking it, and I find that the pain gives a rough and abrasive action to the beginning of the experience which isn't a good thing for psychedelics. The recommended plugged dose of 2c-x tends to be one that parallels the half of oral dose as necessary.

On another example, the 2C-x-NBOMe series is generally inactive if taken orally, sub-lingual is a little better, nasal and plugging are considered the only really effective methods of taking them. We suspect it to be active transdermally as well, very much enough to be psychoactive.2c-c-NBOMe very much makes its presence known if you plug 400 micrograms but if you put a 400ug blotter into a gel cap and swallow it will do little or nothing, as far as sub-lingual there is a chemical taste and effects are far less pronounced for dose.
 
I dont have many rules when it comes to MDMA...

sure I test my beans and take my breaks...

but the main rules is:

Never stick anything up your ass when rolling. This includes drugs, sex toys, dicks, fingers, cucumbers, bananas and anal beads.

If your down with that, so be it....but street drugs up your ass? You could mess up your intenstinal track by scraping the lining and this could causes toxins to seed colon cancer later in life.

Just pop your beans the old fasioned way

I'm sorry but reading your name and the nature of your post made me see your name as MasterSphincter. :p

That being said however I agree with your post 100%.
 
In many cases it proves to have a higher bio availability. The stomach is full of acid and enzymes responsible for the breakdown of organic molecules. These drugs we eat get broken down by the chemical enviroment your throwing it into. MDMA is a relatively stable molecule so its not as important with this one but the point still applies. Getting high off a drug is generally about getting that drug into the bloodstream and then through the blood brain barrier.

The stomach is not the most direct way to the bloodstream. The directness makes a world of difference. You throw a solution of your drugs into an organ meant for absorbing solution into the bloodstream and then tend to become a bit more powerful compared to an oral dose.




sub-lingual is probably about the same as plugging in most cases.
I have read oral and plugging have almost the same bioavailability for MDMA actually.

IV has significantly more (100% ) bioavailabilty however it's very dangerous. You could miss the vein, or get an infection from the MDMA. You should never IV a pill but IV'ing anything off the street is pretty risky as it bypasses all the body's natural toxin filters and injects the drugs straight into the blood..
 
Gelatine capsules dissolve up yer arse. In fact many suppositories are made of gelatin. The glycerin ones, for bad constipation, are think gelatin - much, much thicker than a cap and they start working in a few minutes.

I've plugged caps before when I was feeling too sick to take them (you might ask why just not take them but this was a long time ago) and it works just fine - the same as eating them. It's not super quick like using water but then it depends what you want and where you are. You don't want to be syringing stuff up ya butt at a party! There is a enough moisture in your rectum to dissolve finely crushed powder pretty fast.

I've known people plug pressed pills with good effect so even they appear to dissolve OK.
 
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