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Plugging codeine CWE

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I consider myself as a fairly experienced opiate user. Just wondering if it has more advantages than just drinking the CWE. I cant bear the taste anymore. Every time i have it i gag and its very annoying even with cordial.

Has anyone actually tried this ROA before? I know it has to bypass the liver for it to be converted to morphine, would this still be less/more? effective? Also what would be the exact procedure?

Just shoot it up without a needle im guessing? and how far up? I know theres a few threads but there are pages n pages long and i prefer someone answering who i know is familiar with CWE's and people who have done it before with success. Would it work the same? I have to admit i have no clue if rectally administered it would by pass the liver or not. Biology isnt my strongest subject.
 
I remember someone on AUDD talking about trying it, can't remember what the verdict was though.

personally, I'd wonder how much water can go up there without leaking out. Back when I was regularly CWEing I'd usually be left with 50 - 100ml at the end.
 
Crankinit said:
I remember someone on AUDD talking about trying it, can't remember what the verdict was though.

personally, I'd wonder how much water can go up there without leaking out. Back when I was regularly CWEing I'd usually be left with 50 - 100ml at the end.
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Cheers for the reply. I usually CWE 450mg codeine 45pills x 3ml water = 135ml. Would that be too much liquid to shoot up? And would this ROA work just as well as Oral? I cant bear the taste anymore and i dont have any ideas on how to evaporate the water to leave me with powder as i dont want to break it down with heat and no fancy chemicals either.
 
After inquiring with a friend who has plugged both H and codeine the verdict is

"plugging H works a treat, codeine was similar in potency if not less potent than the oral ROA"

Rectal administration of codeine would probably greatly weaken the effects and make onset slower because this route bypasses first-pass metabolism in the liver where the codeine is metabolized into its active metabolites (mainly morphine)

Hope that helps you anal crusader you ;)
 
I've wondered about this too - it seems like it'd be too much liquid to put up there. I've plugged meth before and only used a max of 3ml's of water in a 3ml syringe - it seems like it'd be annoying to keep sucking up the cwe to squirt up there. Is there any syringe type thing you could use that would hold significantly bigger volume of liquid...?
 
I have wondered about this, although only because I know plugging other opiates is very effective, I could give a fuck about the taste really. It does seem like a hell of a lot of liquid to put up your ass but I guess there must be ways.

If steve-O can take a beer bong up the ass I am sure theres a way to get less than 200mls up there. LOL
 
Sustanon said:
... I cant bear the taste anymore and i dont have any ideas on how to evaporate the water to leave me with powder as i dont want to break it down with heat and no fancy chemicals either.
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You can use air movement to evaporate without heat/light. Do what people do with mushrooms and run a fan over it. It will take many hours and there might be some loss of potency.

As one of codeine's most noticable effects is to make the intestines spasm and seize up tight (hence the constipation) I don't know what the result of shooting that quantity directly up one's arsehole would be. It might be difficult to hold it in and I've never heard of any benefits of this method with codeine specifically.
 
i think i had the discussion with you before about evaporating codeine but you said yours went kind of mouldy or something. As mentioned above air movement is the way to do it. Can be done over night so you can have a few batches going at the same time. If tasting it is the problem then you should try evap again if you have a fan. Once i've done it, i just weigh it out and cap it, and just store them away for a convenient time. IMO probably a lot easier than trying to hold water up your hole, especially if you're into prostate massages
 
if you're left with a large amount of solution then it's easy enough to evapourate the extra liquid to a point where it's more practical for plugging. you could even evapourate it to the point where you're left with the powdered codeine to add in a oral syringe

psilo said:
Rectal administration of codeine would probably greatly weaken the effects and make onset slower because this route bypasses first-pass metabolism in the liver where the codeine is metabolized into its active metabolites (mainly morphine)
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here's a copy/pasta from my post in OD i replied to the other day

codeine is a pro-drug but via plugging, while it passes first pass metabolism, it is still absorbed in the systemic circulation. in most cases the concentration of the drugs, which are passed through first pass metabolism, are greatly reduced before they reach the systemic circulation which is why alternate routes of administration, in this case rectal, are desirable for such drugs as codeine*.
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*most what i've read(studies) say they're equal in BA as well, only the rectals absorption rate which is quicker when in an alkaline solution. i've only read anecdotal reports of people using rectal codeine who swear by it being stronger. perhaps they're mistaking that with the quicker onset and rapid absorption?

i've heard people who think plugging codeine hits a lot harder than oral consumption and others who say it makes no difference. personally i've never plugged codeine.
 
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lol @ copy pasta

rules 1 & 2

I should try this sometime, be interesting to see if the effect is in fact stronger.
 
^let us know how it goes if you do follow through.


PsiloSubNaut said:
There are 100ml syringes

Not sure about availability
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they're available easily online, the main ones i see are 50ml ones though which i'm thinking of ordering so i ca perform a larger morphine extract to store in bacteriostatic water and a media bottle for IV's, instead of wasting a micron filter everytime i prefer one shot.

i'm not sure how comfortable how you'd be putting one of them up the rectum though, lube would be a necessity because they are rather large in diameter. though you could get one of those plastic hose to attach which would be a lot more practical

check out gpzservices.com, though theyve stopped selling bacteriostatic water now, they have everything else you'd need.

rectal morphine is second to IV and on par with IM i my experience. the come up isn't too ovewhelming for those who don't like the IV effects of morphine (histamine release, pins n needles, hot warm rush, etc) and you get a nice long effect from it. i highly recommend plugging morphine over oral or snorting since their BA is only around 30% some studies show rectal morphine can be up to 60%, but has a means of around 30%. check out my mega morphine thread in OD. people swear by rectal morhpine

/off topic
 
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I've plugged codeine several times from CWEs, it definitely felt like it got me 'higher' then using it orally. That was the reason I tried it, as it wasn't doing much for me orally anymore.

It is a bit annoying having to load an oral syringe a couple of times to get it all up there, but it never took more then ~3 minutes really. As long as your bowels are empty they can actually hold quite a bit of liquid, much, much more then you'd get from a codeine CWE anyway, so don't have to worry about it leaking.

If you just push an oral syringe up there as far as it will go that is far enough.

As far as I'm aware your liver still metabolizes the codeine as it would from an oral dose as it's the fact it enters your bloodstream that causes it to reach the liver not because you dosed orally. But I'm not 100% on that.

I rarely use codeine or opiates in general anymore so my tolerance has dropped back to a level where drinking it is satisfying enough. If I started using it reguarly and tolerance spiked again I'd probably go with plugging again as IME it was a more intense high then oral use. Faster and more intense onset too.

/shrug
 
^whenever i plug morphine (5ml barrels) i only penetrate the sphincter to inject in the rectum, usually no more than 2 knuckles deep. pushing it up as far as possible is unnecessary as the sphincter will stop any leakage anyway because it's a tight muscle. it's whatever you're comfortable with though.

another option is evapourating the codeine into a powder and using capsules to slide up there.

puckboy said:
As far as I'm aware your liver still metabolizes the codeine as it would from an oral dose as it's the fact it enters your bloodstream that causes it to reach the liver not because you dosed orally. But I'm not 100% on that.
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Faster and more intense onset too.
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you're right, because it passes first pass metabolism

me said:
codeine is a pro-drug but via plugging, while it passes first pass metabolism, it is still absorbed in the systemic circulation. in most cases the concentration of the drugs, which are passed through first pass metabolism, are greatly reduced before they reach the systemic circulation which is why alternate routes of administration, in this case rectal, are desirable for such drugs as codeine*.
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google first pass metabolism and systemic circulation and you'll have a better understanding:)
 
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Cheers for that leftwing, wasn't aware about the stages of metabolism. Thanks for the info.

Also I think the syringe I use may be different to the usual ones they sell, it is slightly curved and when pushed in fully it only just passes the sphincter, If I'm thinking of the ones your talking about, yeah - definitely don't need to push them in all the way.
 
no probs mate. you can buy oral syringes from any pharmacy for like 50c, they're usually 3mL barrels though, you may be able to get 5's. they go in with ease. and as i mentioned earlier there are plastic hose attachments you can lock on the end of the larger one (50ml, etc) which will be a lot more comfortable. to be completely honest (and i apologise for too much info), the 3 and 5ml barrels feel no diferent to a small vibrator going in:D, but they're a lot less invasive;)

if you've got a SEP (syringe exchange program) at your local hospital or nearby then they'll hand out boxes of them to you for free. i got a 100ct box of both 3 and 5mL barrels not long ago. you could even get pharmacies to order them for you or purchase online.
 
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