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plugging 2c-p questions?

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opiodmaniac

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so plain and simple I'm not fond of the 3 hour come up with oral and would like to plug 2cp. my main questions are what approx. should I expect for come up time when plugged?
how much would you suggest for a strong dose when plugged? I normally take about 15-17~mg orally.

also if I don't dose enough on the original plug can I just snort or plug another small dose behind it with strengthening effects? considering I don't have a mg scale currently (trust me I know extremely stupid) I actually have a lot of experience with ALOT pf different RCs including ones with extremely small dosing ranges, with and without scales so needless to say iv got enough experience to guess pretty good how much I'm taking.

anyways thanks in advance for some answers I'd really appreciate it.

peace!
 
whatever dude..... I use to have one and it was taken by the police....
iv already done this particular chem exactly 10 times..... with only 1 bad experience and honestly it's because I did a retarded ammount of mxe through out the trip.

also I have a lot of experience with eyeballing even with smaller dose scale chems.
so don't lecture me on a scale please just help me out with my questions?
 
A milligram is a measure of weight. You cannot eyeball the weight of an object. You really need to buy a scale which is both properly calibrated and sensitive enough to measure milligram weights.

It doesn't matter at all what expertise you feel you have in eyeballing the WEIGHT of something, it's logically impossible to do so.

At any rate... I have no clue as to your actual questions, but yeah this bit really needs to be addressed...
 
*sigh ok. fine I allready acknowledged it wasn't smart, but in a reasonable fck up the worst that will happen with this chem is I'll freak out for a little and either ride it out or take a seroquel.

I have weighed this chemical before with a mg scale atleast 5 different times. so I have a fair idea of how much 10mg weighs and what exactly it looks like.
now onward, this has been adressed and I allreay understand the risks of eyeball doses. iv been in the RC game for much longer than a lot of people and have done ALOT of diff chems so just puttin out there that I'm not naive to this stuff
 
Worst that could happen? Do you need to ask that?
People have reported OD at 15mg if memory serves correctly.
Overdosing on 2c-p doesn't sound healthy or fun; more like dangerous and extremely drawn out...

If you think you can tell the difference between 10, 15 or 20 mg of powder (unless perhaps you handle this particular substance, say...daily) then I don't know how to politely tell you you're kidding yourself?

I don't think plugging it makes the come-up a great deal faster...but I'm not sure you want people to tell you things you don't want to hear.
 
I can eyeball MDMA within 10-20mg of where I want, but this is totally different and could be risky whereas MDMA isn't gonna hurt anyone with 20mg extra. Buy a scale, man.
 
opiodmaniac said:
the worst that will happen with this chem is I'll freak out for a little and either ride it out or take a seroquel.
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Nope. The worst that will happen is that you die. This isn't only bad for you, it's also bad for me baca use your death will be used by the media to strengthen the case for drug prohibition.

If you come here for advice then listen to it when it's given.
 
opiodmaniac said:
*sigh ok. fine I allready acknowledged it wasn't smart, but in a reasonable fck up the worst that will happen with this chem is I'll freak out for a little and either ride it out or take a seroquel.

I have weighed this chemical before with a mg scale atleast 5 different times. so I have a fair idea of how much 10mg weighs and what exactly it looks like.
now onward, this has been adressed and I allreay understand the risks of eyeball doses. iv been in the RC game for much longer than a lot of people and have done ALOT of diff chems so just puttin out there that I'm not naive to this stuff
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That doesn't mean you're immune to mistakes.
If you've been in the "RC game" as long as you say then you should know that the difference of two mg could be the difference between a comfortable trip damn near being lost in hyperspace.
The dose response curve for 2c-p is by far the steepest I've tried, 12mg was average, but 15mg was almost too intense
 
ok. fine guys I thought I allready said this I understand that issues with this and have admitted to them. but the broken record approach is a shitty one. I do like to hear opinions on the questions I asked but as for lecturing someone who has Ben able to eyeball 25i before I'm aware of the issues and just dot currently have a scale at the moment. so any further info would be appreciated.
and yes iv
overdosed on 2cp it's not fun but it's whatever just know how to handle yourself. always be able
to back out with alprazolam or quitepine
 
buildersoftime said:
Nope. The worst that will happen is that you die. This isn't only bad for you, it's also bad for me baca use your death will be used by the media to strengthen the case for drug prohibition.

If you come here for advice then listen to it when it's given.
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woah green hand. unless I take like a stupid ammount I'm not gonna die so chill out.

your also fallen off your rocker if you think that "20$ scale" is actually gonna weigh accurately for something as finicky as 2cp then you're sadly mistaken you might as well be eyeballing to be honest
 
You've fallen off your rocker if you actually believe you successfully eyeballed 25I-NBOMe, a molecule whose lattice structure is very difficult to form and prone to extreme variability in even the same batch. I believe you meant to say, you successfully eyeballed 25I-NBOMe without dying.
 
yes without dying I didn't mean it was smart but iv
done it ok? iv just got these questions I wish someone could help out.
but instead I see this thread is just
going to turn Into a why don't you have a scale thread!?
 
You are on a harm reduction site asking for advice and then dismissing it. Are you surprised at the reaction you've got?

We're trying to keep you safe. It may not be what you want to hear, but we're looking out for you. You're talking to people with a lot of experience here. A $20 Gemini-20 properly calibrated has an accuracy of 3mg, your eyeballs do not. The dose-response curve with 2C-P is not something to fuck with. Toxic adverse reactions aren't as likely as adverse psychological reactions with 2C-P, but the risk is definitely there with your attitude.

I'll stop mothering you for a second to answer your question: the effects will likely not be reduced and the come-up may be slightly quicker, but still a rather slow flight.

Be safe.
 
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thank you so much! I really
appreciate your answer and now know that it's not
even worth it I appreciate it.

now yes I know I need another scale but it my Gemini was taken a little while ago by the police
unfortunately. trust me I plan on getting one and was not
dismissing any advice I was simply
saying my work with the chem and that I personally fel safe enough to do it. but yes I plan on buying a new one.

but at no time hear did I say tht you guys were wrong or dismissing what anybody was saying I was agreeing with y'all for gods sake. but when a point had allready ben made it's not necessary for everybody else to bandwagon on top and say the same stuff. especially when OP allready agreed with you.
 
opiodmaniac said:
your also fallen off your rocker if you think that "20$ scale" is actually gonna weigh accurately for something as finicky as 2cp then you're sadly mistaken you might as well be eyeballing to be honest
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It's a hell of a lot better than eyeballing. Of course you aren't going to believe that anyone here has more experience than you.

opiodmaniac said:
also I have a lot of experience with eyeballing even with smaller dose scale chems.
so don't lecture me on a scale please just help me out with my questions?
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opiodmaniac said:
and yes iv overdosed on 2cp it's not fun
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So I guess experience isn't enough to stop an overdose from occurring then?

opiodmaniac said:
trust me I plan on getting one and was not
dismissing any advice I was simply saying my work with the chem and that I personally fel safe enough to do it. but yes I plan on buying a new one.
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What's the point of buying a scale after you've estimated your 2c-p dose?
 
buildersoftime said:
It's a hell of a lot better than eyeballing. Of course you aren't going to believe that anyone here has more experience than



So I guess experience isn't enough to stop an overdose from occurring then?



What's the point of buying a scale after you've estimated your 2c-p dose?
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I'm not sayin I don't believe anyone in here knows more than me I. fact there a lot of really helpful members here so please stick around gain the info that is so great fully offered here.

and no iv overdosed on certain chemicals on purpose man. iv mostly had it happen by accident but I'm not scared of an overdose. they're no more scary than a blast off of dmt or super hard trip on shrooms or LSD. been there done that sometimes it's kinda fun sometimes it reallllllly sucks.

and why still but a scale? welllll because I still have a shit loa of 2cp left :) sorry I don't buy my RCs off the street like some people and just guess at what's in my bag...... so yeah needless to say I have a little surplus and will continue to dose 2cp later on so why not have a scale??? ya feel me. but sorry didn't mean to come off like an ass I was just saying drop the scale thing because I allready know...

but my bad anyways and I'll be tripping either Saturday or Sunday so I'm gonna give plugging 8-10mg ~ plugged and report back and let everybody know how my results turn out, I'm hoping for a fairly faster comeup to avoid the awkwardness of just feeling "funny" for 3 fucking hours.
 
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