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PLEASURE Center and Drugs....??

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belfort

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i was watching a documentary the other night and this neurologist was going into detail on how he is seeing younger and younger kids complain of boredom and malaise..he didnt understand it but after some looking into, he discovered that our kids are basically being shellshocked by certain videogames...he said mostly the shooter type videogames really give kids a jolt and it really nails their pleasure centers hard...so when they stop playing those certain games they often find themselves bored and restless...he said that after months and years of doing this their pleasure centers become worn out...

now, just imagine what happens with OUR pleasure centers after using hard drugs for years on end...hard drugs provide the most intense pleasure available so i assume our pleasure centers are beyond fried..wouldnt you agree??doesnt this make the whole idea of it being so hard to stay clean about as basic as you can get??meaning that once you have attained such intense drug pleasure that the simple things in daily life couldnt possibly allow you enjoy yourself??

what sucked is the guy didnt say what if anything allows the pleasure centers to return back to normal...:p
 
Yeah, and meth seems to be the #1 drug for damaging the brain's pleasure centre (the mesolimbic reward pathway) because of the massive amounts of dopamine it releases. That's why I've struggled to get clean and stay clean, cos I just can't seem to enjoy life without the drug. They say the brain does repair itself in time, but it can take months or even years to fully return to normal.
 
I feel so fucking retarded right now. I want to do a lil wayne and forget the oc and just do some smack and take some seroquel. Im so fucking sick of everyone around me.
 
sweet P-yeah ive heard meth is especially bad when it comes to this...and thats the thing, how long is an addict willing to wait after they get clean, how many months of anhedonia are they willing to endure before they just give up and either go back to using to commit suicide??

i have always been sort of skeptical of the notion that every drug user/addict takes drugs because of emotional trauma...i think to some it truly is just a very pleasurable thing and then it turns on them..
 
Sweet P said:
Yeah, and meth seems to be the #1 drug for damaging the brain's pleasure centre (the mesolimbic reward pathway) because of the massive amounts of dopamine it releases. That's why I've struggled to get clean and stay clean, cos I just can't seem to enjoy life without the drug. They say the brain does repair itself in time, but it can take months or even years to fully return to normal.
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Spot on.... :\

How long have you been going hammer & tongs on the meth, if you don't mind me asking??
 
belfort said:
sweet P-yeah ive heard meth is especially bad when it comes to this...and thats the thing, how long is an addict willing to wait after they get clean, how many months of anhedonia are they willing to endure before they just give up and either go back to using to commit suicide??
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Exactly... the longest clean time I've had from meth has only been about a month. But even that was long enough for me to say "fuck this" and return to using. A life without any sense of pleasure is the closest thing to hell that I can think of.

hyroller said:
Spot on.... :\

How long have you been going hammer & tongs on the meth, if you don't mind me asking??
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I'm now in my third year. :\
 
I'm similar to you (just clicked over 3 years) - except I had a 9 month break from december 08-august 09....

And since late last year it's been sporadic, but still... something I'd like to do without. :\

Up until june 2008 things were nuts, then I broke my leg in a high speed motor crash (I was the only one involved, thank god)....if it wasn't for going to hospital for 2 weeks, and being laid up for a further 2.5 months (due to another injury I sustained)...god only knows what would have happened! as much as it sucked being off my feet, it was the only way to force me into a detox.

but I agree - the 3 year mark is where it really ceases to be a lot of fun, and is more necessity than anything else...
 
Exactly... the longest clean time I've had from meth has only been about a month. But even that was long enough for me to say "fuck this" and return to using. A life without any sense of pleasure is the closest thing to hell that I can think of.
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i felt the exact same way and thats what made it so hard for me to get off drugs. i thought i needed the euphoria to live. now ive learned you can live for PERIODS without pleasure and it does come back with enough time off drugs.
 
Generally, what follows pleasure is pain. I find it best to just try and keep it neutral- not too happy, not too sad. Just HERE.

That said, its fuggin hard to do that...:\
 
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