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Please why do you love strangers so much on mdma ?

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gege1976

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Howdy everybody. :)
My english is bad sorry, I speak french (come from Belgium) and am 41 years old.

i can't take MDMA, it's too risky for my hyper sensitive brain.
But I would like to be in your mind when you want to talk with strangers on Internet, or in a club.

What do you think who makes you talk to strangers ? You don't know them, they did nothing for you.
Because I want to have a state of mind, a concept of life for loving the others, even the strangers, even yourself.

I remember someone on a forum spoke of the beauty of the human race or something like that.
It would be cool if you want express your vision here for me.

Ok, you don't have time, so just one sentence per person is ok for me.
I must work now (it's 12h33 am here) :)
 
Obscene amounts of serotonin and oxytocin makes you have feelings for even your worst enemy.
 
snafu said:
Obscene amounts of serotonin and oxytocin makes you have feelings for even your worst enemy.
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Yes, I know that.

But I would like to know the philosophy in your head.

For example (sit down before reading) when I have taken shrooms 4 years ago, I was the universe (ah ah).
In my mind, the "philosophy" was : "I am the ALL because everything around me is nothing".
 
You just don't think about it, you just talk, I mean, everyone's shields are down, you can talk to whoever you want and it'll be fine. It's like being kids again. You enjoy everything, you're amazed by everything, you talk to everyone and you feel deeply connected to each and every human being. It's a state of pure bliss :)
 
imo you have asked a good and intelligent question but gotten crappy answers so far.

from my perspective, the philosophy of it is that every person is a unique and beautiful soul just like you with an incredible amount of experiences, knowledge and warmth to contribute to the world. everyone has also suffered just like you, so it makes sense to have compassion and empathy for them. there is an incredible, beauty and complexity to each person and each person has something to teach you about God/all that is. and then there is the sense of wanting to share your joy, happiness and sensuality with others. what is the point of feeling incredibly happy if you have no one to share it with?

and of course the amphetamine part makes you confident and full of energy which is why you want to talk and socialize. thats more of a physical thing than philosophical in the sense that if you are tired and worn out at the end of a long day you're probably not gonna feel like a social butterfly no matter how good of a philosophical perspective you have on life.
 
burn out said:
imo you have asked a good and intelligent question but gotten crappy answers so far.

from my perspective, the philosophy of it is that every person is a unique and beautiful soul just like you with an incredible amount of experiences, knowledge and warmth to contribute to the world. everyone has also suffered just like you, so it makes sense to have compassion and empathy for them. there is an incredible, beauty and complexity to each person and each person has something to teach you about God/all that is. and then there is the sense of wanting to share your joy, happiness and sensuality with others. what is the point of feeling incredibly happy if you have no one to share it with?

and of course the amphetamine part makes you confident and full of energy which is why you want to talk and socialize. thats more of a physical thing than philosophical in the sense that if you are tired and worn out at the end of a long day you're probably not gonna feel like a social butterfly no matter how good of a philosophical perspective you have on life.
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Wow I was waiting for an answer like that.
it's really nice of you to have taken the time to answer me so precisely.

The fact that everyone has suffered (and especially could still suffer terribly), I already think about it.
This is what allows me to no longer condemn anyone.

Because I tell myself that whatever the person has done or will do, no one deserves to suffer.
And that suffering is always terrible.

"Love is in the trust" (quote from an author).
You talk about confidence in you.

You say that every person is complexity and has something to teach you.
It seems to me that when you think you know more than the other, you become arrogant and the other seems inferior to you.

I have already experienced this thought whith mushrooms :

Each element of the universe is like a piece of a puzzle.
Removes a single piece of this puzzle and everything else is no longer worth anything.

Thats is why each and everything then appears vital.

I want more explanations if possible please. :)
 
For me when I'm on MDMA I feel a kind of profound 'knowing' that we are all one. I feel connected to everyone, like every member of the human race is part of a circuit, a huge mass network that is all part of the same system. I have this 'knowing' that we are all the same in terms of our raw human experiences, underneath the differences. We are all interconnected on this planet at this time, and connected to everyone that has come before us and will come after us. At the same time I can also think with my rational mind that 'this is the kind of hippy shit that you would think because you're high, you idiot', but then I just smile at myself and let myself feel that deep connectedness anyway.

I think taking MDMA for the first time did have quite profound consequences in terms of that 'knowing' being awakened in me. I remember the first time I took it thinking, this is what is underneath all the anxiety and defensiveness that we live with, and if we could just access this more often there would be no war, there would be no violence. It is amazing that the potential to see the world in this way is already in us; the drug isn't 'adding' anything so to speak, it is just stimulating a potential that is already there. It is quite beautiful for me and it is why I'm conscious of MDMA use as a 'special' experience that I respect a lot rather than just something I use to have a good time, because it is the closest I get to a spiritual experience as a sceptical atheist.
 
gege1976 said:
Yes, I know that.

But I would like to know the philosophy in your head.

For example (sit down before reading) when I have taken shrooms 4 years ago, I was the universe (ah ah).
In my mind, the "philosophy" was : "I am the ALL because everything around me is nothing".
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To me the philosophy appears to be "love > hate. wake up humanity. p.s electronic music is wicked".

MDMA is an incredibly powerful counterculture tool. My experience is that it's helping to pave the way for an actually decent society.
 
basically all the above is correct, but the subjective effect is to make you realize that the inhibition is not necessary.
And anyway what's all the shIt about being too sensitive, you are a human being aren't you?
 
Yes, again a good answer for me.

I believe already that love is so far better than hate.
Hate destroys you, and transforms what you have into "shit".
You alwats want more and think that you have no value until ...
 
I don't actually love strangers any more when on MDMA than I would when sober. I do socialise a lot easier when rolling of course but it's only the people I already had some kind of love for, be it family, my gf or friends that I feel more love towards when rolling. For me MDMA amplifies positive feelings already there, it doesn't create/cause them
 
What Bluebull says.
Mdma does help you get away from dualistic concepts like love and hate too.
Being just IS on mdma is what I love about it
 
Tranced said:
To me the philosophy appears to be "love > hate. wake up humanity. p.s electronic music is wicked".

MDMA is an incredibly powerful counterculture tool. My experience is that it's helping to pave the way for an actually decent society.
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I think LSD is infinitely more powerful in this respect, and look at how that turned out.

things like religion, greed, politics, and hard drugs seem to prevail in society at large
 
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