Please someone see this and help. ASAP.

[rundncc]

Sorry if this isn't the right topic for the thread, I'm new to this and in a small bit of panic, so please forgive me if I did it wrong. I'm not really thinking too straight.
So, I, 23yrs old female, slight experience with drugs, 275lbs, tried meth for the first time ever like an idiot. I shot it up. I did it once somewhere between midnight and like 4am and then again around 11:15-11:30 this morning. I used an insulin needle, so it was filled to the twenty line with the meth and then filled with water until about the 40 line. I'm not asking for anyone to lecture me and tell me how bad of a decision it was, trust and believe right now I'm regretting it. While I don't have an addictive personality and addiction is definitely not a worry I have, this is not pleasant and not something I ever want to deal with again. I feel AWFUL. Basically what I'm here for is advice, guidance, even reassurance. I should've just left it at one because I was fine, and then I did the one late this morning and it's been downhill all day. I felt nauseous with the first hit, but I threw up barely anything, like some stomach acid and pop and a little of what I had for dinner last night. But after I threw up I felt fine. No complaints after that really. But when I did the second hit, it felt like it went straight to my heart. It felt sort of like my heart might have stopped for like half a second and I couldn't even draw a breath, I tried to breathe in but it was like I was getting nothing. That lasted for a split second, and then came the nausea again. I was bummed but I was like eh no big deal I felt fine after puking before so it's just gonna be the same. I was WRONG. I've done nothing but dry heave and feel like death ever since. I've been lightheaded, my entire body feels almost impossible to move. I had to have a huge pep talk with myself just to get up and pee. I've hardly moved from my bed since I got home from my friends house that I did it at. I got home around 12:30pm, it's 5:44pm now. After I got here I immediately told myself I just needed to lay down and relax, because at this point I also had a very strong heart beat. I checked my pulse after I had been laying down for a few minutes and it was around 100, I wasn't too worried because it's been way higher when I was sober. I was concerned about how strong it was, I could literally see my chest like slightly bouncing with my pulse. It's calmed down now for the most part, I'm still having some fluttering type of feelings and it's pretty frequent but not constant like it was. I've been trying my best to drink water thru the day but just sipping water makes me gag, so I've been taking like baby sips, and my friend just brought me some Gatorade. I'm pretty sure at this point I'll be okay, I'm still a little worried about how my experience went but it's slowly showing signs of an end. Sloth slow, but still some progress is better than none.. My questions for you all are:
1. Did I do too much? I know doing it close together has an effect, but is a total of 40ml of meth too much? Especially for a first time?
2. What can I do to help make the rest of the time I'm dealing with this as bearable as possible? Because right now I'm miserable. Can't throw up and feel like I would feel 10x better if I did, I can't eat because just the thought of food right now is making me gag, because I just think about how it's gonna just come right back up. I don't wanna deal with that. My anxiety is fluctuating, tried taking my anxiety meds but they don't really seem to work like they should with this in my system. I'm fine for a minute and then my heart beat makes its presence extra known by beating extra hard, and then I start going thru my cycle of panic again and questions that idk the answer to.
3. Will smoking pot have a negative effect on me right now? I smoke regualarly, but I'm not sure what the interaction might be for me.

Anything else anyone would like to add that may help me, feel free to tell me. I don't want to feel like this anymore and I'm willing to do anything I can to help ease the symptoms I'm having if I can't do anything else.

 

[CFC]

Welcome to BL rundncc. Sorry to hear you're feeling unwell. Many of your experiences are actually pretty common when using meth, so try not to get too worried. To answer your specific questions:

1. Did I do too much? I know doing it close together has an effect, but is a total of 40ml of meth too much? Especially for a first time?

40ml is not an amount of meth, so we can't say. You need to know how many milligrams you dissolved in that liquid. However going by your reaction, I think it's pretty obvious you took far too much, especially for a first timer. Also why did you IV it? I would strongly advise against that route of administration. If you feel you need to use meth, the safest and least addictive method is to take it orally.

2. What can I do to help make the rest of the time I'm dealing with this as bearable as possible? Because right now I'm miserable. Can't throw up and feel like I would feel 10x better if I did, I can't eat because just the thought of food right now is making me gag, because I just think about how it's gonna just come right back up. I don't wanna deal with that. My anxiety is fluctuating, tried taking my anxiety meds but they don't really seem to work like they should with this in my system. I'm fine for a minute and then my heart beat makes its presence extra known by beating extra hard, and then I start going thru my cycle of panic again and questions that idk the answer to.

Many of your symptoms are the result of the enormous quantities of adrenaline surging through your body, and won't diminish until levels fall. This could take until tomorrow as meth has a very long life in the body.

However you may also be hypoglycaemic, as this is a common occurrence on meth. So - since you can't eat - perhaps you could slowly sip some sports/electrolyte drinks (not sugar free) to gradually bring your blood sugar up. If you're not too hot, you may also find something like a warm shower or bath relaxes and reduces your anxiety.

What anxiety meds do you have?

3. Will smoking pot have a negative effect on me right now? I smoke regualarly, but I'm not sure what the interaction might be for me.

It may relax you. Not everyone gets on with the combination, but most do. I suggest you try just a little and see how you feel.


>>> BTW I'm going to move your thread over to BDD where you're more likely to get other responses.

 

[rundncc]

I didn't actually prepare it myself, my friend did it for me because I didn't want to fuck up. I did watch the entire process, I'm not concerned that he laced it or did anything weird to it. So I'm not really sure how many mg I did, but i can ask my friend who did it to see if they remember how many mg. Sorry, idk anything about it so I thought that was a measurement that would tell you how much it was, lol. I do know it was up to the 20 line of one of those basic insulin syringes with the actual crushed up substance, and then he filled it up to the 40 line with water, if that helps at all. I know IV'ng the first time for anything is very strongly not recommended but I just kind of decided to go big or go home I guess. I honestly don't know why I chose it, I just did. Once I said I was gonna IV it I wasn't gonna back out. That's just me.
You mean I could feel this crappy all night? Jeeez. Will I be able to sleep? Because that's really all I want to do, but I haven't actually been able to try because my stomach and strong heart beat have been bothering me that much. They're hard to ignore.
My friend brought me a couple of regular gatorades so I'm sipping on that the best I can right now but I have a hard time swallowing anything because it just feels like I'm about to gag. I have to focus and like, take a breath before I swallow any liquids. I haven't tried to eat anything since I had like 4 slices of thin deli ham sandwich meat before my second hit during the late morning. I didn't have much of an appetite then, I still don't. But at least then I wasn't feeling so sick yet. All I have is some leftover papa Johns meat lovers pizza and some cheese sticks so that's probably not the best choice anyways on an upset stomach.
I take vistaril 50mg (spelling?) as needed for my anxiety. It's an antihistamine, idk why my psych even prescribed that but apparently it's common, I had no clue.
I'm going to try to load my one hitter since it's small and see if smoking helps me any at all. I figured I would smoke slowly to give it a chance to see how I react that way if it makes it worse, I won't have smoked a lot so it won't be too bad hopefully. Thankfully I'm significantly more calm than I was earlier today. I didn't really calm down from my temporary freak out until about 2-3 hours ago. All I could focus on was my heart beat at first, and then the nausea got worse. So now it feels like they're randomly picking turns to try and one up each other every so often. The friend I did it with tried to tell me I was thinking too much into everything, and thinking too much about it in general. But I honestly cant really focus on anything else but how shitty I feel right now. Been trying to watch tv for hours to distract myself but I got distracted researching my symptoms and trying to find similar experiences for reassurance but I had a hard time finding anything. But I'm also not really familiar with these kinds of websites, so i don't even know where to begin. I googled it but nobody really was similar enough to my situation to make me feel at ease.
Thanks for answering so fast, I was worried I'd be waiting a long time, lol. And thank you for moving it to another section, sorry again, I have no clue what I'm doing on here, lol.

 

[CFC]

Ah, ok. Yes your friend probably gave you too much I'm afraid. Meth is one of the strongest drugs out there, so there's never a need to slam/IV it unless you want to become addicted very quickly. Even orally the stuff can be overwhelmingly strong and extremely addictive, even for people not otherwise at risk.

As for sleep, that's the thing with meth - it will keep you up all night, sometimes two nights, from a single dose, because it stays in the system for so long. This is one reason keeping your doses very low is sensible, so you can get back to your normal routine before lack of sleep amplifies the unwell feelings.

Your anxiety med (hydroxyzine) may actually help you relax and sleep, but bear in mind meth is such a potent stimulant that not many drugs will shut it down until it's been flushed out. It's also not always wise to mix too many stimulants and sedating drugs together if you don't know what you're doing.

However there's nothing to panic about at all - it's your racing thoughts causing the panic and you'll be fine later. Just keep watching some TV and chilling, try to eat and drink small amounts regularly, and don't try to do anything too taxing. Eventually your heart will slow down, you'll be able to get some food in, and you'll naturally begin to get sleepy. It just takes time.

 

[rundncc]

Thank you! I appreciate you helping me out. You made me feel a little better. I'm trying my best with eating, drinking, and staying chill right now, it's just a little hard to do, lol. I'm taking it really slow with it all, like you said don't do anything too taxing, which I couldn't even if I wanted to right now because it feels like I'm dragging Mount Everest with me, and too much movement makes the upset stomach worse and causes my heart rate to rise which then causes it to start beating strong again. I've been trying to do as little as possible. I wonder if the hypoglycemia thing could be true for me, because even thought I've been standing up really slow all day but I still feel like I stood up too fast and have to like lean over on something or sit back down.
I'm pretty sure actually that my blood pressure may be low too and playing a part in how I feel, can it cause that?
I'm sorry that my responses are really long and basically kind of me rambling on, but I read that a possible side effect is wanting to talk a lot, lol. Also, sorry if I sound like a complete weirdo or something. I just kind of start and then I keep thinking of stuff I should mention that might be relevant and could help you help me so I backtrack and all sorts of things, lol. But thank you again, much appreciated!!

 

[CFC]

Yes, anyone who uses meth/amphetamines tends to like writing enormous blocks of text, like a splurge of thoughts all blurted out at once. So don't worry, we're used to it

Your stomach feels that way because there's so much adrenaline in your system (the 'fight or flight' response). It's like the feeling you might get before an exam multiplied by ten, or like a cave man might have had running from a lion. And you feel so weird and woozy because your heart is working too hard (ie not very efficiently) and you've burnt through all your stores of energy (carbs). Many people find they get palpitations and missed beats as well, all of which makes you feel worse.

I know it seems really hard to do in your hyperactive state of mind, but try not to keep thinking about it all - you'll just get paranoid. Focus on more enjoyable things and try to get some food in.

 

[rundncc]

I don't have anything here in my hotel room besides Papa Johns leftovers, so I'm slowly making my way thru a cheesestick, I figured it would be less harsh than a piece of meat lovers pizza lol. I've only made it thru one and I heated up 3 just in case once I actually ate I felt like I could handle it. Which they aren't big either so it's not too much, but it's something right now. That's all I can really bring myself to eat. I feel better, my stomach is growling now that I've started trying to eat, so I'm hoping that means I won't have an upset stomach too much longer. Heart palpatations have calmed down more too, more so a normal heart beat now rather than a thud, but not quite normal yet, and every few minutes it will flutter, but I'll take every few minutes rather than the every few seconds I was having earlier. I'm currently watch X-Men: Days of Future Past and laying here in bed, so far everything is seeming better.

 

[Keif' Richards]

It often sucks to hear, but the best cure for a high-dose Methamphetamine experience is rest, food and sleep. No doubt, something like a Benzodiazepine is an efficient way to sedate yourself and make the experience more bearable, but that's not always an option. Using Cannabis might not be a bad idea, but be aware that it could actually intensify your anxiety if you're already real high-strung.

 

[rundncc]

I know a benzo would have helped but I don't know anyone who has any, so I didn't have access to any. I wish, lol.

I ended up finally being able to actually throw something up rather than just dry heave late last night, I felt better a few minutes later. I took my anxiety meds and smoked some bud from my one hitter and around 4am I was finally able to fall asleep. Granted, I woke up like every two hours and I only had about 5ish hours, but at least I could sleep, lol. I'm still exhausted and my legs started to ache a little bit ago, which I assume is part of the comedown. I also noticed I have some sores on the sides of my tongue from clenching my jaw so tight and grinding my teeth. Makes it a little annoying to eat, but I'll take it. I definitely feel much better than yesterday. I'm still dead set on the fact I won't do it again, no matter the ROA. That second hit scared me shitless when it hit me. But I'm off to try and sleep some more! Thanks for yalls input, it's greatly appreciated.

 

[HezzaD]

Youll be fine I tried to top myself taking an eighth of amphetamine paste in one go.
omfg it was horrible when i walked my heart felt like it was slowing down when i sat down it would speed up
went hospital they was horrible to me cos it was drug overdose when i went in for a pill overdose they treated me ded nice.
anyway felt horribly stimulated for about 10hours got to sleep taking a quetiapine diazepam and valerian when i got home.
that overdose had to of gave me brain damage

 

[Shaleh]

We have semi similar experiences, so I'll share with you. I've never used meth, nor after a past experience want to.

Unknowingly, I snorted a line of heroin that had to be laced with meth. A few minutes after the ick hit ny stomach my heart went crazy and my blood pressure went sky high, like, stroke level.

I was an hr and half away from home at my aunts house. After snorting the ick I tried to lay back down to sleep to no avail, panic set in and my mind would not shut off.

So after 3 hrs of this crap, I got my stuff and decided to go home. I had the craziest thoughts driving and the paranoia was insane!

Halfway home I stopped at a fire station. Banging on the door I awoke an EMS and told him I was having a heart attack. He and another worker sat me down and took my BP/HR and said "good lord" and immediately started the ambulance up. As they did this I began to panic....'what if they find drugs in my system,what if I die, etc". When they decided to take blood is when I bailed. I got out the ambulance telling them I needed to get my things out my car and left. Gave them a fake name and addy, so they couldn't trace me. Lol.

Made it home and was jacked up for almost 24 hrs. I couldnt sleep, eat, lie down. A friend brought over some (Suboxone) and I took a tiny piece, began to feel better in 30 mins.

Suboxone probably wasnt the best choice, but it reset my brain, and I finally calmed down to eat and sleep.

Sorry you're going through this right now, but lesson learned. Hope you get to feeling better soon. I don't suggest mixing any other meds, just let yoyr system reset. (a downer may be good if anything)

 

[rundncc]

Yeah the lesson was definitely learned lol. I keep saying it's instant karma. I was feeling better for a while today but around 4:30 this afternoon the nausea came back and I just threw up about 10 minutes ago. I came back on to ask if it's normal for me to still have this intense of an effect with it being 24 hours since I last did it? The nausea, puking, dry heaves.. I tried Dramamine for the nausea and I think that may have been a mistake, Idk if it's the Dramamine or how I was already feeling but about 15 minutes after taking it I felt like I was paralyzed. Maybe not the best word, but I kept telling my body to move but it just wouldn't lol. As I type this I'm getting nauseous again. And I don't have anything on my stomach to throw up, I ate two pieces of pizza earlier today while I was feeling fine but I guess it digested or something because all that's coming up is stomach acid. I would love more than anything to just sleep. I laid here for two hours trying to fall asleep from 7-9pm and nothing. My jaw is sore af from all the clenching and grinding and I have cuts on the sides of my tongue where my teeth dug into it. Annoying. But I'll check back later if I don't fall asleep, I have to go puke. Again.

**apparently I forgot how to count, it's been about 37 hours since I last did it. Which is no better, lol. I'm a little concerned that it's been so long and I'm still having all the stomach stuff, not sure if that's common?

 

[T. Calderone]

How are you feeling now? Probably the pizza made your stomach upset worse so hopefully, by now it's passed. Stimulants are notoriously dehydrating. What you can do is make yourself drink water. Start with sips and see if you can keep that down.