Please Help- Unpleasant LSA Aftereffects

[Tinytim92]

Hello blue lighters,
This is my first post, so please excuse me if this is the wrong place to post this. Approximately 38+ hours ago, I ingested a water-extraction of LSA. The dose was approximately 30 HBWR seeds, as a dose of 1/2 that amount yielded no results 5 or 6 days ago. About two hours after ingestion, instead of feeling the usual effects, I felt as if my brain had broke. There was very little visual or auditory hallucination, yet my thinking was completely scrambled. It felt hard to breath and though I felt like vomiting, my throat would close up when I tried to. I thought I was losing my mind. After 6 hours of this I fell asleep and woke up 6 hrs later without much improvement. My head felt as if I had the flu as well and I had a fever. After laying in bed all day and a full nights rest, most physical symptoms are gone, yet my head feels distinctly messed up. Currently, at hour 38, symptoms include:
- fuzziness and pressure in my head
- senses are unpleasantly enhanced
- sporadic short lived headaches
- fatigue/achiness
- lack of motivation and feeling of listlessness
- paleness
- distinct fear of never feeling normal again
- shortness of breath

My personal diagnosis is that my extract either made me sick or my trip coincided with some sickness. Please help. Has anyone else suffered this? Will this nightmare end? When should i seek professional help. Thank you guys. If you need more info, I will gladly provide.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Your brain cannot "break" for fuck sake! All you are experiencing is anxiety, and the more you work yourself up about it, the worse it will get. It is completely normal to feel out of sorts for a day or two following a psychedelic trip. Just chillax and use the recovery period to do positive things. Don't waste it sitting around trembling like a hypochondriac about phantom diseases and mental conditions. It's all in your mind, it really really is.

 

[Jackeh]

Have you done a water extraction before using the same method? If so, did that same method lack the outcome you currently have?

 

[Tinytim92]

Yeah, I have done this exact extract before with the same seeds, as well as all sorts of other psychs, and never felt this before from any of them. That's what scared me first. I know my brain didn't break, it just felt like I got hit in the head real hard, like a crack to the back of the skull. I'm assuming I'm just freaking out, but was just looking for some subjective feedback.

 

[Solipsis]

Just take good care of yourself, eat well - being passive is okay but laying in bed all day might be too much.

People sometimes just react differently, you may not have broken anything but there may be a type of exhaustion - give it time.

Even if you didn't get anything last time (did you have tolerance last time from having taken any other psychedelic in the previous week or so?) I still think it is probable that you took a bit too much. After all it is a very high dose and it does certainly have pronounced side effects even if your symptoms do not entirely match.
The headache can just be a lingering effect of vasoconstriction for example. Avoid caffeine and other drugs.

Remember it has not been that long since you took it, and that given everything you said all points to only temporary problems. Visit a doctor if you get anything much more serious than this and/or if effects persist VERY long. Now worrying will not help you at all so just try to relax and remember that it is a matter of time, that good care speeds up recovery and to distract yourself until then.

 

[Tinytim92]

Thank you for your advice Sonipsis. I have been more active today and am going to take your advice to heart. Distraction also seems to be making these effects more manageable.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Start practising meditation and breathing; there's never been a better time to start.

You cannot become clinically exhausted as a direct result of taking a psychedelic. But I do know what has happened to you: the trip shook loose some repressed thought(s) and feeling(s), and rather than allowing them to pass through you with bare recognition, you did battle with them and tried to squash them. You may not even remember doing this, because if you are not a practised meditator you probably wouldn't be aware of the processes involved in the repression of thought.

Trying to repress thoughts whilst tripping has negative consequences because your sexual energy, and thus your mind, has been granted so much power, and it is like doing battle with a giant serpent of light thrashing around with the power of the universe. When you push away negative thoughts (rather than letting them into your awareness with bare recognition), a fractal feedback loop occurs where that thought buries itself deep into you like a corkscrew, and the more you try to prevent it, the more power you give it to keep burying itself deeper. The thought then manifests itself in all manner of physical and mental ailments, such as anxiety, depression, weakness, sweating, shaking, pain, whatever you want.

Only when you stop giving that feedback loop power can you starve it of its ability to keep replicating itself and sucking your positive energy away from you like a parasite. Suddenly you regain your physical strength, your world becomes optically brighter, things stop being hostile and the world seems like a loving place, your appetite returns to normal, and you feel on top of the world.

Seriously, I used to be like that - always obsessing about bodily sensations and stuff like that, way before I even started taking psychedelics. I was an extremely anxious person, suffering panic attacks and all of that stuff. But psychedelics helped me change all that, because they threw me into the deep end of true self-awareness and I was forced to begin meditating and doing yoga. These practises will change you immeasurably for the positive.

Just go on google/youtube and search 'Pranayama' or 'Pranayama+Yoga'.

 

[Solipsis]

What is clinical exhaustion? I meant the word in a broader sense, not only like overexercise but also a depletion of energy or certain biochemical stability. If you overdo it with psychedelics, fatigue and other symptoms that are mentioned in the OP are not uncommon. Because even if there are stoning effects to LSA-containing seeds, taking too much is taxing whichever way you turn it. And if it is taxing, forms of exhaustion not only seem possible but logical IMO.

Instead you propose (you even know it? ) that this is a result of psychosomatic manifestation of emotional and psychological turmoil that happened on a subliminal or subconscious level? And how would you know this exactly, because something like that happened to you and this is how you explain it? Sorry but that is too esoteric for me.

I do agree that something like this can happen to a person but there would have to be indication of actual emotional or psychological upheaval. Maybe a part of it can be repressed and hard to recognize but without even having experienced a come-up and come-down, some psychedelic effects that build up to such an episode? No way man. Without anything like that I believe you are reaching.

Another thing I agree on is that hypochondria (which I am not at all sure the TS has) can turn into an even more fucked up animal when you take psychedelics.

And yes, I believe (not know) that there are certain balances in a person that seem better associated with kundalini theory than scientific ones (probably because what happens is too holistic) and that incorrect use and guidance of your thoughts, feelings, emotions, sexual energies and other kinds like that, can lead to disregulation. It does sound like you have similar ideas.

But based on what we hear in this thread I do not think there is enough reason to conclude that this is what is going on here.

I don't know that, but it is my informed and argumented opinion.


Breathing exercises, meditation and yoga are all great to recommend and I will, too. But this is a long-term asset, to start trying it when recovering like this may be asking too much. With some previous experience I agree that it can already help but for teaching yourself 101, I guess you better be closer to some kind of baseline.
There is an amount of anxiety and confusion that makes any kind of meditation too challenging. The better you get at it, the more anxiety can be cured by it. But newbies at baseline already have enough trouble calming themselves.

On the other hand breathing exercises are so practical that it can certainly be worth a try. The threshold for it is lower (because the technique is more physical I guess) than for meditation. Start there IMO.

 

[Tinytim92]

Thank you both for your advice. I am quite familiar with meditation, as I used to suffer from anxiety and insomnia for several years. I practice daily, and always before and after psychedelic experiences. Same goes for this one.

I do feel better than this morning and yesterday, but not quite "normal" yet. I am sure I will feel completely normal soon, albeit with a greater appreciation of sobriety.

 

[Solipsis]

I am glad you feel better, hopefully it is not too cynical to say that appreciation for sobriety tends to be transient.