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please help me. I think I'm in real trouble witha bad experience

Shootingstar22

Shootingstar22

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I made the worst mistake ever on Friday night. I took maybe 100 to 120 mg of mdma and had the worst night of my life. I'm experienced with mdma and had a gram of it that I'd been saving. Id taken a bit over the last month, approx 2 other times and this was going to be the last time. I didn't even get high, I went into full jaw clench in the fetal position for 3 hrs, shivering, drinking water, tingling in my feet. I honestly was worried I was going to die and I was alone. The feeling passed after 4 hrs but I've never experienced anything like these after effects. I have anxiety in the morning and night, I have a hard time concentrating and this is 5 days later. I'm going to try and exercise, I can't drink caffeine or alcohol or it makes it worse. please help me, im . I'll never do this again. I'm luckily off work until July, what can i do to be normal before then? should i go to the doc to get an anxiety med or just take vitamins? I normaly smoke a bit of weed, but I'm thinking i should stay offp that too obviously. any help would be great. thanks.
 
That does NOT sound like MDMA. It actually sounds almost exactly how I reacted to TFMPP, curled up in the fetal position for a few hours and threw up foam :\

Substance ID is not allowed though, so we can't really tell you what you took.. but I recommend getting a test kit so you can know if you're getting the Love Drug or a nasty and toxic chemical like piperazines. The links in my signature will take you to several reputable dealers



You'll be fine soon though, all things get better with time. No need for any medication, the doctors are just going to try and throw you on some anti-psychotic that you don't need. Just eat a healthy diet and get some good cardio type exercise, that will help you recover faster than anything.
 
- Stay off all drugs, definitely including weed, until symptoms subside
- Assuming it is MD, lay off it for 6 months to a year. The longer you wait the less likely it will be that u find urself in the same situation as you are in now, or worse. You serotonergic system has taken a beating but will recover if you let it.
- Hit the gym and throw in some light cardio
- Supplements: Loads of antioxidants, a shit tonne of omega-3 + a multivitamin daily is a good start. You can find plenty of threads on here with other recommendations.
- Get plenty of sunlight
- Eat a good balanced diet with plenty of tryptophan
- Stay hydrated
- Be patient and stay positive- it's hard not to flip a shit when you are anxiety-ridden and you're brain has been drained of all feel good chemicals. Give em time to replenish.
- Don't read too much stuff on bluelight. Read around for tips but don't go through horror story after horror story. The overwhelming percentage of people make a full recovery. With your level of usage, you can be very hopeful.

You don't have work for a while, so treat this as an opportunity to change your lifestyle and get healthy. Your body has told you that it wants to be treated with some respect, so do what you can to comply. This may just be a blessing in disguise!

Good luck dude
 
dpd_mnk92 said:
- Stay off all drugs, definitely including weed, until symptoms subside
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Why?

If he is one of the users who gets extreme anxiety after smoking.. yeah, don't smoke weed. But if it helps him deal with these stresses and takes the edge off of that nasty comedown, why should he not smoke?


I never quit smoking weed during my recovery time, I feel it's really helped me deal with my depression/anxiety without needing to do to the doctor and take whatever crazy drugs he throws at me.

OP, if you like to smoke weed... why stop now? I mean, I'm not trying to convince you NOT to stop, but if you don't see any reason to do so don't let others talk you into it
 
Folley said:
Why?

If he is one of the users who gets extreme anxiety after smoking.. yeah, don't smoke weed. But if it helps him deal with these stresses and takes the edge off of that nasty comedown, why should he not smoke?


I never quit smoking weed during my recovery time, I feel it's really helped me deal with my depression/anxiety without needing to do to the doctor and take whatever crazy drugs he throws at me.

OP, if you like to smoke weed... why stop now? I mean, I'm not trying to convince you NOT to stop, but if you don't see any reason to do so don't let others talk you into it
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Valid point. If it offers him relief, then who am I to tell him not to smoke. On the other hand, most people I know don't respond well to weed when suffering from the symptoms he describes and if he himself gets the feeling that he "should stay off that too obviously", why not listen to what your body/ mind is telling you and give the brain a break while it recuperates.

Admittedly, I put a little too much emphasis on staying off weed as people react differently, in different circumstances. Perhaps my subjective experience has influenced my view. However, I get a strong feeling that a break from psychoactive substances is probably the best way to go in these situations... nothing science-y to back this (although some of first badcomedown's posts about weed + MD interaction make for interesting reading).

The OP can choose whether to accept or reject any advice I've given to him. I'm only an anonymous poster in a drug forum after all.. hahah
 
dpd_mnk92 said:
Valid point. If it offers him relief, then who am I to tell him not to smoke. On the other hand, most people I know don't respond well to weed when suffering from the symptoms he describes and if he himself gets the feeling that he "should stay off that too obviously", why not listen to what your body/ mind is telling you and give the brain a break while it recuperates.

Admittedly, I put a little too much emphasis on staying off weed as people react differently, in different circumstances. Perhaps my subjective experience has influenced my view. However, I get a strong feeling that a break from psychoactive substances is probably the best way to go in these situations... nothing science-y to back this (although some of first badcomedown's posts about weed + MD interaction make for interesting reading).

The OP can choose whether to accept or reject any advice I've given to him. I'm only an anonymous poster in a drug forum after all.. hahah
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+1 weed is literally medicine for me. When I'm coming for a bender, a nasty hangover, after a coke filled night, and especially after mdma. It really nullifies the bad and helps me sleep it off. Alot of you say exercise is the key to getting better faster, which it is. I find that if I can sleep off the worst of (with the help of weed) I'm back to my self in now time!
 
n2n said:
+1 weed is literally medicine for me. When I'm coming for a bender, a nasty hangover, after a coke filled night, and especially after mdma. It really nullifies the bad and helps me sleep it off. Alot of you say exercise is the key to getting better faster, which it is. I find that if I can sleep off the worst of (with the help of weed) I'm back to my self in now time!
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Don't get me wrong - I love weed. It is great when coming off MD and other stims (in fact I have never not smoked weed in these situations). But A LOT of people who come onto bluelight and complain about particularly bad long-term comedowns coupled with post-MD anxiety and cognitive problems will mention that weed makes things worse. The simple fact that the OP himself thinks he should stay off weed right now should definitely not be ignored!

5 days have past. He is suffering from anxiety and some mild cognitive problems. He thinks he should stay off weed. This is more or less all we know. I don't think the solution for MOST people in this situation is to smoke more when we know that it commonly worsens anxiety in these cases (often leading to anxiety attacks) and further hinders cognition while it is in your system (which in itself can increase anxiety).
 
I would consider staying off weed if i was you, i had a bad e experience 3 weeks ago, i continued smoking weed and now i cant enjoy it anymore, i get razy opanic attacks and depersonalisation of one puff, i sued to smoke between 3.5 g to 7 g a day wihitout no paranoia or anxuiety
 
Folley said:
That does NOT sound like MDMA. It actually sounds almost exactly how I reacted to TFMPP, curled up in the fetal position for a few hours and threw up foam :\
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Agreed, sounds more like piperazines. I ve done an evening of fetal position groaning. Not much fun, but the next day i took a few deep breathes and got a grip of myself. Mind over matter. Sleep, eat, rest, exersize, repeat.....and always remember...its only a drug.
 
Thanks for the replys everyone. The sad thing is that I had a test kit and it tested positive for mdma, but there was obviously something else in it. I'm done with hard drugs, this scared the shit out of me. I've had plenty of wonderful times on mdma and now pills are junk even when tested. I'm just lucky I'm not dead. I hope I recover before work in July and one day hopefully i can enjoy a coffee, a drink and a joint but add of now I'I'm staying off everything. Did any of you who took tfmpp or bzp recover fully over time?
 
Yes, within a few days. A week max to be back to complete normality even after some serious binges of various drugs. Humans are made of tough stuff. Some peoples brains are not so tough though.
 
I"m with Folley on the medication thing. I spent a good 6 days in a mental hospital, cause I told my psych I felt suicidal. Worst 6 days of my life, I def stopped thinking about killing myself, but only because all I could think about was going home. They put me on temazepam and zoloft, neither of which helped sleep or depression. Now I take prozac, but based on what I have read on here, I think I'm going to wean myself off of it. I would rather be able to definitively say that the source of my happiness in life does not come from a drug. Anti psychotics sound fucking horrible.

Not to bash shrinks and psychiatrists, but good FUCK, that field needs to grow up and start using the scientific method when they prescribe drugs. Rhetorically, what is the logic behind prescribing one antidepressant over another? Just wishing (a pipe dream) that psych meds were prescribed the way diabetes meds are prescribed, or the way a cavity is filled, or a cast is set, or an allergic reaction is treated. Can't they test you for vitamin deficiencies? Seems like they should be testing people for endorphin/neurotransmitter deficiencies. The way psych meds are prescribed seems rather haphazard, careless, and with very very little critical thinking on the part of the prescribing physician.

Piperazines have this way of making me feel like shit for days afterwards, as well as horribly depressed, physically and mentally.
 
dpd_mnk92 said:
Don't get me wrong - I love weed. It is great when coming off MD and other stims (in fact I have never not smoked weed in these situations). But A LOT of people who come onto bluelight and complain about particularly bad long-term comedowns coupled with post-MD anxiety and cognitive problems will mention that weed makes things worse. The simple fact that the OP himself thinks he should stay off weed right now should definitely not be ignored!

5 days have past. He is suffering from anxiety and some mild cognitive problems. He thinks he should stay off weed. This is more or less all we know. I don't think the solution for MOST people in this situation is to smoke more when we know that it commonly worsens anxiety in these cases (often leading to anxiety attacks) and further hinders cognition while it is in your system (which in itself can increase anxiety).
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I wasn't trying to call you out or anything man, just saying the OP probably ought to decide for himself whether marijuana helps alleviate or exacerbate his symptoms.

Yeah, I like big words lol.. anyway though your points are as valid as mine, and you're completely right. For a large amount, it can make anxiety worse.. yet it's also prescribed as a drug for anxiety, at least in my state, and personal experience has showed me it can do wonders at easing the negative feelings you get after a night with some bad pills.

It effects everyone different, as all drugs do.. but now that the OP has heard both sides of the story I'm sure he'll be able to decide if he wishes to continue or not :)
 
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