BlueHues
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^And I'm not trying to say "go USA!" Or anything like that..just saying, at least there's something available to you, should you find yourself dependent on opiates!
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Bupe please help..bupe info needed
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Mr.Scagnattie
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^^
Yeah at least we have options.
Yeah at least we have options.
mostly-human
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Totally agree about the 0.5mg strips, that would be perfect. And as Shrunk has said, regardless of all this, suboxone is still a wonder drug - but it shouldn't be taken lightly, or prescribed except where appropriate. I'd still be shooting heroin every day if not for suboxone, on suboxone, I didn't feel like using and even when I did use; it didn't work.
Also - Shrunk, I think you mentioned it costing around ~$50 a week, I was paying $30-40 a week - depending how much I paid for at a time (bulk was cheaper). I didn't have to jump through many hoops though, I just went to a chemist, said I wanted to be on their program, then went to a doctors - had a literally 5minute appointment, got a script and back to the chemist - all in the same day, I was sick in the morning and by mid afternoon I was catered for.
Regarding the cost per week - illicit drugs in Australia are extremely expensive. I don't think we're supposed to mention prices here, but if you look it up and then think about much much gear a heavy user goes through per day, $30-$50 a week is nothing.
Also - Shrunk, I think you mentioned it costing around ~$50 a week, I was paying $30-40 a week - depending how much I paid for at a time (bulk was cheaper). I didn't have to jump through many hoops though, I just went to a chemist, said I wanted to be on their program, then went to a doctors - had a literally 5minute appointment, got a script and back to the chemist - all in the same day, I was sick in the morning and by mid afternoon I was catered for.
Regarding the cost per week - illicit drugs in Australia are extremely expensive. I don't think we're supposed to mention prices here, but if you look it up and then think about much much gear a heavy user goes through per day, $30-$50 a week is nothing.
HdoubleODeezy
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Don't wanna derail this but with all the talk about microgram bupe dosing, do they still make temgesic?
I think they used to be .3mg buprenorphine SL tabs which is equal to about 10mg oral morphine.. i think that is what they used for pain treatment with buprenorphine before all these high dose suboxone and subutex pills/strips came out along with the misinformation given to and by the drs from big pharma about the dosage needed.
I think they used to be .3mg buprenorphine SL tabs which is equal to about 10mg oral morphine.. i think that is what they used for pain treatment with buprenorphine before all these high dose suboxone and subutex pills/strips came out along with the misinformation given to and by the drs from big pharma about the dosage needed.
Im 23 ive been on 16 mg of bupe 8 in morning and 8 later, im worried about tapering off but i have a scrip and im supposed to take it for 2 years then taper for six months. I was addicted to morphine by 15 yrs old and then heroin after that till i was 22. My life has been getting better and better since i got off dope and when i tried without bupe many times i was so depressed for months and just wanted life to end. So i think bupe is good for people who really need it. I still am worried about getting off it, i dont know if i will be able to do it or not, but honestly, if i cant handle life without it, i wouldnt mind being on bupe for the rest of my life. Soo much better than my life was when i was shooting opiates every day. I dont really have any bad side effects, it doesnt get me high or intoxicated so i can read or do things that non addicts do, exercise work all that stuff no problem. Ive been off dope for 10 months now, i drink a bit but my life is better now than it ever has been. In a way im just starting it and suboxone helps me feel well enough to function and leave my old miserable life behind. Im still sad sometimes and have bad days but i also have good days and im happy alot of the time, andy mood is affected by the events of my life instead of how much dope is in my system, and even tho doctors and subs cost money, its much more affordable than dope. And now i finally found a doc thats covered by my insurance and i just have to pay a copay for my subs. Well anyway thats how subs have changed my life so far.
I Really hope the best for all the addicts struggling out there, I know it seems hopeless but you can get your life back and be happy.
BE PEACEFUL TO ONE ANOTHER
I Really hope the best for all the addicts struggling out there, I know it seems hopeless but you can get your life back and be happy.
BE PEACEFUL TO ONE ANOTHER
Shrunk
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Ladianios...I totally agree on the tramadol...It sure has some really messed withdrawals and ive been through them before many times and for some its even worse than heroin symptoms, but if used for 2 3 days it wont do much damage and leave ur system in no time and ur body wont have the time enough to get addicted to it ..its just a back up plan for me ...and as for sniffing some bupe...I actually am thinking about doing so ...and no offense taken on my side .
To tell you the truth guys...Just yesterday i was discussing this with my girlfriend who's on buprenorphine as well taking half a day and trying to quit just like i am ..I wanna share a little story guys ..this last Thursday before yesterday We were at the drug addiction center...and I told my gurlfriend to ask one of the gurls in charge over there..she's probably just a psychiatry trainee ...so I told her to ask her in case she decided to taper down and she didnt wanna come the next week ( they oblige you to come every week to consume your script ) so the woman speaking " no dont be too fast on taking such a decision, dont try to taper down on ur own, ask ur doctor "
my girlfriend: well but im doing perfectly fine tapering down and i think i can do it on my own
the woman: I wouldn't advise you to do such a thing, take ur time, give it another couple of months.
Guys...the truth of the matter is ..buprenorphine has opened new profitable doors for these drug addiction centers by getting addicts hooked on bup and having them come every week to do their test ( 10$ per person ) ..and they get around 500 addicts a day coming to ask for a script....my point is ..She should've motivated her, encouraged her to quit and gave her some encouragement to quit and taper down, in return what she was doing is convincing her to keep taking it ..I mean guys come on ..I know i might sound as if am bitching and whining...but i gotta just say it ...Subuxone company is making big profit out of this, As i Said earlier i live in Lebanon, next to Syria if you hear about syria, We In Lebanon have tons and tons of addicts and ALLLL of them are on buprenorphine, I do encourage big time to quit on bup, it has helped me tons and I would be so happy knowing my old junkie friends recovering from heroin and being hooked on bup instead of having to go through the trouble of scoring and jail...
Bluehues, I was busted 3 times in my life and suffered cold turkey in jail, and i dont wanna describe how shitty jail is in our country, i'll tell you just that its a third world country, its worse than Russia, and last time I suffered from 25 days of insomnia...and I didnt fully recover until a full year of hell especially there isnt any healthy food inside neither the environment helps at all, And heroin addicts are like the number one enemies in jail, i think that goes to anywhere, difference is if you abuse heroin you go straight to jail for 6 months, I had 2 junkies confess that i was selling them drugs and ended up serving 5 years...
Anyhow ..My point is ..buprenorphine is a really great medicine..medicine sounds more safe than drug..but truth is ..Its really such a nasty drug and we're all getting addicted to it..and the doctors arnt knowing how to deal with it, its like all they care about is you quitting heroin and doing their drug so they make more money out of you ..
and yes Mostly human..I know we shouldn't be discussing costs of how much we used to spend per week, I personally when i was a heavy user i was spending more than a 100$ per day just to be able to stand on my feet, although we have some really low cost heroin and its very cheap, but you know the cheaper the more you get, nevertheless hustling selling stealing to some, whatever comes in ur way you'll do it just to be able to score and go to sleep at night and the next day the same shit goes on and on...so yes it is a drug from heaven, having to worry about 50$ a week is easy compared to addiction on any opiate, at least you can sleep and wake up knowing you don't have to go through hell thinking its ur last day alive ..So yes im really grateful at some level that buprenorphine exists cuz if it wasn't for that i'd still be snorting shooting up that shit ..and we all know after a while how it becomes disgusting and when you look at yourself in the mirror you despise yourself wishing u'd just die and rot in ur own shit cuz of how stupid you are to get urself addicted that much...
BUTTT i still think doctors should focus a bit more on the dosage and the duration of using subs, its a good alternative since its legal and you wont suffer from illegal shit and consequences of being called a junkie, but to us we are still junkies having to wake up every morning and taking our medication, anyways...
Im a bit sad really cuz i woke up this morning thinking i could skip a day but i couldn't, im using quarter a day which is 2 mg, im starting a 12 hour shift work on Monday and im never having a day off,i dunno how stupid i am for accepting this job, but i need to pull myself together and make a living, but a friend of mine yesterday told me he was using subs for 9 months and when he tried quitting he suffered from alot of withdrawals which is just normal, but i've been using it for 3 weeks, there is a difference guys between 9 months and 3 weeks right? I mean i know am gonna suffer from withdrawals, but do you think i wont be able to work? Mostly human when i was reading ur experience, you gave me a big help and motivation to just go and do it since you said u were working and doing just fine at work full time, but you did suffer and had to take 2 days off, but again please guys do you think the duration of ingesting does differ from a long time user to a short time user like i am as such as 3 weeks? fuck its fucking my brains,
Ladianios, Yesterday I tried breaking my quarter into half, u cant imagine the embarrassment, it was breaking into small particles on my fingers, and i threw them under my tongue and i was like what the fuck, and the pain just continued in my legs, i know it might have just been psychological, but i felt restless and i couldn't help but take the rest of the quarter then i continued my night just fine, I dunno how the hell am gonna do it, but i still got 3 pills to go down easy, wish me luck
To tell you the truth guys...Just yesterday i was discussing this with my girlfriend who's on buprenorphine as well taking half a day and trying to quit just like i am ..I wanna share a little story guys ..this last Thursday before yesterday We were at the drug addiction center...and I told my gurlfriend to ask one of the gurls in charge over there..she's probably just a psychiatry trainee ...so I told her to ask her in case she decided to taper down and she didnt wanna come the next week ( they oblige you to come every week to consume your script ) so the woman speaking " no dont be too fast on taking such a decision, dont try to taper down on ur own, ask ur doctor "
my girlfriend: well but im doing perfectly fine tapering down and i think i can do it on my own
the woman: I wouldn't advise you to do such a thing, take ur time, give it another couple of months.
Guys...the truth of the matter is ..buprenorphine has opened new profitable doors for these drug addiction centers by getting addicts hooked on bup and having them come every week to do their test ( 10$ per person ) ..and they get around 500 addicts a day coming to ask for a script....my point is ..She should've motivated her, encouraged her to quit and gave her some encouragement to quit and taper down, in return what she was doing is convincing her to keep taking it ..I mean guys come on ..I know i might sound as if am bitching and whining...but i gotta just say it ...Subuxone company is making big profit out of this, As i Said earlier i live in Lebanon, next to Syria if you hear about syria, We In Lebanon have tons and tons of addicts and ALLLL of them are on buprenorphine, I do encourage big time to quit on bup, it has helped me tons and I would be so happy knowing my old junkie friends recovering from heroin and being hooked on bup instead of having to go through the trouble of scoring and jail...
Bluehues, I was busted 3 times in my life and suffered cold turkey in jail, and i dont wanna describe how shitty jail is in our country, i'll tell you just that its a third world country, its worse than Russia, and last time I suffered from 25 days of insomnia...and I didnt fully recover until a full year of hell especially there isnt any healthy food inside neither the environment helps at all, And heroin addicts are like the number one enemies in jail, i think that goes to anywhere, difference is if you abuse heroin you go straight to jail for 6 months, I had 2 junkies confess that i was selling them drugs and ended up serving 5 years...
Anyhow ..My point is ..buprenorphine is a really great medicine..medicine sounds more safe than drug..but truth is ..Its really such a nasty drug and we're all getting addicted to it..and the doctors arnt knowing how to deal with it, its like all they care about is you quitting heroin and doing their drug so they make more money out of you ..
and yes Mostly human..I know we shouldn't be discussing costs of how much we used to spend per week, I personally when i was a heavy user i was spending more than a 100$ per day just to be able to stand on my feet, although we have some really low cost heroin and its very cheap, but you know the cheaper the more you get, nevertheless hustling selling stealing to some, whatever comes in ur way you'll do it just to be able to score and go to sleep at night and the next day the same shit goes on and on...so yes it is a drug from heaven, having to worry about 50$ a week is easy compared to addiction on any opiate, at least you can sleep and wake up knowing you don't have to go through hell thinking its ur last day alive ..So yes im really grateful at some level that buprenorphine exists cuz if it wasn't for that i'd still be snorting shooting up that shit ..and we all know after a while how it becomes disgusting and when you look at yourself in the mirror you despise yourself wishing u'd just die and rot in ur own shit cuz of how stupid you are to get urself addicted that much...
BUTTT i still think doctors should focus a bit more on the dosage and the duration of using subs, its a good alternative since its legal and you wont suffer from illegal shit and consequences of being called a junkie, but to us we are still junkies having to wake up every morning and taking our medication, anyways...
Im a bit sad really cuz i woke up this morning thinking i could skip a day but i couldn't, im using quarter a day which is 2 mg, im starting a 12 hour shift work on Monday and im never having a day off,i dunno how stupid i am for accepting this job, but i need to pull myself together and make a living, but a friend of mine yesterday told me he was using subs for 9 months and when he tried quitting he suffered from alot of withdrawals which is just normal, but i've been using it for 3 weeks, there is a difference guys between 9 months and 3 weeks right? I mean i know am gonna suffer from withdrawals, but do you think i wont be able to work? Mostly human when i was reading ur experience, you gave me a big help and motivation to just go and do it since you said u were working and doing just fine at work full time, but you did suffer and had to take 2 days off, but again please guys do you think the duration of ingesting does differ from a long time user to a short time user like i am as such as 3 weeks? fuck its fucking my brains,
Ladianios, Yesterday I tried breaking my quarter into half, u cant imagine the embarrassment, it was breaking into small particles on my fingers, and i threw them under my tongue and i was like what the fuck, and the pain just continued in my legs, i know it might have just been psychological, but i felt restless and i couldn't help but take the rest of the quarter then i continued my night just fine, I dunno how the hell am gonna do it, but i still got 3 pills to go down easy, wish me luck
Shrunk
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I'm really happy for you dude, seriously it makes me happy to know you took such a decision at an early age, you need to get your life back on track, stay away from that heroin bullshit, but I dont wanna sound as if i know anything, But I said the same shit when i knew what subs are and said Id take it all my life its better than shooting up dope, but Still 2 years and a half? like what the fuck... Talk to your doctor and ask him if he can shorten up that duration, I just think thats a long time to be hooked on it, you might be just saying that now, but later on when you wake up in the morning months and months at a time having to take ur medication, you'll feel like ur life is hanging all on a pill!! which is true and how it ends up to become, but anywayz am glad your doing fine, Big thumbs up bro and keep it up always
bigzip44
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Okay, everything depends on how long you've been using the bupe uninterrupted and how much of it you've been taking. My best advice if you are facing a situation where you can't be dopesick is this: hold on to those damn subs as long as you can and what I mean to say by that is, take tiny tiny amounts every time you dose and really try to save it up and refrain from taking anymore than you ABSOLUTELY need. If you can make an 8 mg pill last you two days, than you can probably make it last you four days. Just don't take it all it at once, slow slow slow and small small small doses. Be willing to feel the bite of withdrawals a bit and you'll be feeling better for it later.