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Hi all,

So I'm planning on jumping on the piracetam bandwagon before an event in September, not because I've experienced any loss of magic, but just because I'd like to see what it can do--if it can allow me to roll off of less MDMA, and how well it ameliorates the week-after effects.

I was planning on dosing between 3-4g of piracetam + 1g choline daily for 7 days prior to the event, and the same dose the day of. Will this be a productive dosing regimen?

Additionally, how should I modify my MDMA intake? My usual initial dose is 1.5 pills, but I am on the East Coast, so by and large pills are medium strength at best...obviously I have no idea what kind of actual mg dose I am getting, tho I may be able to snag some molly by then. I'd like to have an intensified experience without getting completely floored.

Thanks for any advice.
 
I just read on Erowid that it should be avoided with alcohol and MDMA since it increases blood flow to the brain, thus enhancing the neurotoxicity. Erowid usually has the most up to date information, but is there any other research to prove otherwise? If not (and I don't know much about Piracetam), I'd try and avoid it if you don't have loss of magic. But, I guess if you take Piracetam and less MDMA, then it would cancel out the negative effects and leave you with more MDMA? I don't know..
 
Your dosing schedule sounds very reasonable. Some people like to start out with an "attack dose" of double their usual dose the first day (e.g. 6-8g in your case), but if you're not going for a noticeable nootropic effect this is probably unnecessary.

As for dosage, I'd stick with a dose that you're used to on pills that you've tried (and preferably tested) beforehand. There are no hard and fast rules as to how much piracetam will affect how much MDMA (in fact it may not affect your roll at all), which is why it helps to start out with a known substance + dosage so you can gauge the difference for yourself.

Let us know how it goes, of course. :)
 
Although I'm not going for the whole MDA trip I am keeping a journal of the effects of the drug on my motivation and performance - take a look at http://the-limitless-graduate.blogspot.com - hopefully we can view each others experiences and decide whether or not it will provide a suitable supplement for long term use.
 
vitalfalcon said:
I just read on Erowid that it should be avoided with alcohol and MDMA since it increases blood flow to the brain, thus enhancing the neurotoxicity. Erowid usually has the most up to date information, but is there any other research to prove otherwise? If not (and I don't know much about Piracetam), I'd try and avoid it if you don't have loss of magic. But, I guess if you take Piracetam and less MDMA, then it would cancel out the negative effects and leave you with more MDMA? I don't know..
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please explain. from my understanding any racetam would decrease neurotoxicity. i would recommend piracetam for anyone who uses mdxx bc as ppl have said on here before it makes the roll more clear and reduces or take away all the down come.
if you are planning on taking piracetam take 2 grams 2 hours prior to the roll and 2 after assuming you roll for around 5 hours.
im no expert though anyone care to add?
 
I (among many others who will likely respond) have found piracetam instrumental in recapturing the "magic" you experience when you first start with MDMA- I've introduced piracetam to my friends who are new to MDMA, and they also find it beneficial for eliminating come down and make MDMA experiences more fun, clear headed, and meaningful.

As RGB said, an attack dose (as in a lot more) the day you are going to dose is most beneficial. I find that I'm better off taking 2-3 grams of MDMA the day I'm going to use MDMA only, vs. taking .5-3 grams of piracetam for weeks leading up to MDMA use. Basically- my theory and experience is that only using piracetam in high quantities the day of use is most beneficial.
 
Piracetam has a half-life of something like 4-5 hours, so Bsiren's theory would make sense. However, I do like to dose 1-2g daily for about 7 days before rolling. It might be placebo or something, but I feel it tends to help out. Maybe it's just mind get's more into the Piracetam mindset.

I would do the same amount of MDMA that you normally take, Piracetam does make a roll more intense, but not necessarily stronger - if that makes any sense.
 
I thought I'd give the Piracetam thing a try having taken my first dose of MDMA some 15 years + ago! So, after taking a long break I take 4 or 5g or Piracetam over the course of the day before going out. Pop a little more down the hatch as I leave to catch the train at 8pm.

Get to the club and about 1am I drop half a pill (145-180mg - Dutch lab tested MDMA). Start coming up 45mins later and 30mins after that I pop another half. All going well I think!

Well that's the last thing I remember until 6am! I think I took 2.5 pills, I think I lost some - so when I left I had a half left melted in my pocket.

Long story short - did I not take the Piracetam & MDMA close enough together, and could the combo have caused the blackout? Because I really don't want to not remember anything again!

Comedown was very easy, to the point I felt good enough to do it all again the next day. Stopped taking the Piracetam at the end of the next day - big mistake felt rough as when I stopped!
 
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andgy2777 said:
I thought I'd give the Piracetam thing a try having taken my first dose of MDMA some 15 years + ago! So, after taking a long break I take 4 or 5g or Piracetam over the course of the day before going out. Pop a little more down the hatch as I leave to catch the train at 8pm.

Get to the club and about 1am I drop half a pill (145-180mg - Dutch lab tested MDMA). Start coming up 45mins later and 30mins after that I pop another half. All going well I think!

Well that's the last thing I remember until 6am! I think I took 2.5 pills, I think I lost some - so when I left I had a half left melted in my pocket.

Long story short - did I not take the Piracetam & MDMA close enough together, and could the combo have caused the blackout? Because I really don't want to not remember anything again!

Comedown was very easy, to the point I felt good enough to do it all again the next day. Stopped taking the Piracetam at the end of the next day - big mistake felt rough as when I stopped!
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for some people it decreases their tolerance by a lot. Many people experience blackouts on higher doses. Maybe it made your roll very potent to the point that you might have taken a little too much (mdma).

2 and a half pills wit with that much MDMA is a big dose, and a really big dose with piracetam.
 
No Consequence said:
for some people it decreases their tolerance by a lot. Many people experience blackouts on higher doses. Maybe it made your roll very potent to the point that you might have taken a little too much (mdma).

2 and a half pills wit with that much MDMA is a big dose, and a really big dose with piracetam.
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I did kinda think tht. My brother had the same amount of Piracetam but only half a pill and he said he felt a little ill. I think it's a case try again in august with no Piracetam. Have to say it's effect on the comedown hangover are amazing... Mind you so are those Dutch Qdance pills!
 
Quick Question:

I am starting piracetam and 5-htp combo in 3 days and would like to know.. How would I incorporate it in my daily take?

5-HTP first thing in the morning..

Then take Piracetam with food breakfast and lunch orrrrrr lunch and dinner what do you guys think?

I am planning to drop in a month or two and im coming from a 3 month break..

Need answers please! Keep it plur! I just want to intensify my roll and take less MDMA the most i've ever done was 2.. but hopefully by doing this piracetam and 5htp method I can decrease it to 1.5 or even 1 for 5 hours or probably the whole day! =)
 
SPACEJUNK415 said:
I just want to intensify my roll and take less MDMA the most i've ever done was 2.. but hopefully by doing this piracetam and 5htp method I can decrease it to 1.5 or even 1 for 5 hours or probably the whole day! =)
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I take piracetam throughout the day. Be careful if you drink alcohol though. Avoid taking it if you are going to drink.
No supplement is going to make you roll all day, especially off 1 pill lol.
 
Hahah thank you! Yeah, I rarely ever drink anymore.. i've been sober off alcohol for sooo long an d have no appetite to drink.. but it's nice that you pointed it out tho! Thank you! and when you mean throughout the day you like pop one every 2 hrs or just through your meals?
 
SPACEJUNK415 said:
Hahah thank you! Yeah, I rarely ever drink anymore.. i've been sober off alcohol for sooo long an d have no appetite to drink.. but it's nice that you pointed it out tho! Thank you! and when you mean throughout the day you like pop one every 2 hrs or just through your meals?
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Piracetam increases the blood flow to your brain, so with alcohol it can really fuck you up. The only time ive ever drank on it, it gave me a headache. I've read how it gets people wasted off way less drinks haha. So don't mix with alcohol.

Well i use piracetam for studying (in college). It helps a lot with concentration and memorization. Ill start off with like 1600-2400 mgs in the morning along with 1000mgs of choline bitartate (goes well with piracetam), and after quite a few hours ill pop another 1600mgs. If i want more hours later ill take more. Piracetam is very tolerable with dosing. I bought in bulk, so it is very cheap, so i can use higher doses without wasting money.
 
could piracetam in some sort of way interact with lsd? has anyone ever took mdma and lsd while on piracetam???
 
i will ahve some strong ass avatars plus some purple hearts coming, I will have to really watch my dose if im on piractem... I hope it works.!
 
trancerage said:
could piracetam in some sort of way interact with lsd? has anyone ever took mdma and lsd while on piracetam???
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I took 2400mg piracetam and dosed 1 hit of WoW an hour later. It blew my fucking head off. Brings the visuals more to 'the front'. Kinda hard to explain. Shortens the trip by about 30 minutes to an hour, at least IME.
 
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