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Piperazine - New experience - friend's trip.

Parsethejoint

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So yesterday my friend knowingly took a pipe, green saints to be exact, but anyway I was talking to him on the phone, and like an hour before he took them I was telling him he really shouldn't take it and then he was like "Ahh, gtg for a bit" And of course, he calls me back fucking high and is like "HEEEY I TOOK THE PIPE!!!" So for like 3 hours he was just acting like a dumbass and he seemed normal, as normal as someone high could be lol. I kept asking him how he felt, and he didn't want to answer, he was happy, and entertained easily, and saying retarded shit.

Then about an hour after him talking about loving this girl he barely knew -.-, he said something about how his finger nails were pink. I told him that this was very bad, and that his fingernails should be green LOL, and that since they're not green he has testicular cancer, and I thought I was just messing with him, well I guess he took it quite literal, he told that girl that he thought he "loved" at the time that he has testicular cancer and that he was gunna go kill himself, I didn't find this out till later though.

So anyway, he told me that he was going to go kill himself and hung up on me, I fucking freaked out and threatened to call the police, and he called me back like 20 seconds later asking me if I was stupid... And I told him that I was just fucking kidding about him having cancer and he was like "Yeah, yeah, whatever I'm gunna go take a shower" I kept telling him to wait till his high wore off, he wouldn't listen so at the very least I made him swear that he wouldn't kill himself, or hurt himself, and that he would call me right back after the shower.

30 minutes later, I get a call from him. The first thing he asks me "Am I in a dream?" At first I though he was joking and was like "Yeesss this is aaalll a dreammm!" And I laughed, then he was like "Man... I'm serious, it feels like I just woke up from a dream." And I continued to ask him what he meant and he said that he barely remembers anything from what happened. He remembers taking the pill, then bits and pieces, and all of a sudden right before he called me he felt like he just "woke up" and all he could remember was bits and pieces of his dream.

So we talked for about 5 minutes then all of a sudden he was like, "WHAT THE FUCK?!" And I was like wtf?! What happened? And he told me he had like 12 cuts across his arm 3 of which being pretty bad, and he hadn't even remembered doing any of them. He said he only remembers a few things, and that's pretty scary. What was in these pills, I'm pretty damn sure that's not normal of pipes am I right? What could've been in that pill that made him not recall almost anything from the duration of which he was high? I'm still pretty concerned by it...
 
Interesting report.

Unfortunately, there is no was of telling what your friend took unless he tested the pill first. All chemicals effect everyone differently.
 
Yeah, definitely sounds weird. I'd guess pcp, but like Jackie said, absolutely no way to tell. At least he didn't actually kill himself. :S
 
You sound like a really lousy friend to have. Why would you mess with someone who is having a bad experience and continue to screw with his head after he said he was going to kill himself?
 
FYI, I was rolling a couple weeks ago, and he was fucking with my head, I was just getting him back PLUS I didn't know his state of mind, I thought that he'd be in the same state of mind that he would be in IF he were to take E... I had no idea what the effects of this pill would have on his brain, we joke around with each other all the time, my mistake, and I'll never make the mistake again, but with all do respect he's the closest friend I've ever had, and would never purposely fuckin try and hurt him. AND, I did not continue to mess with him after he said that, I threatened to call the police because he HUNG UP ON ME AFTER SAYING HE WAS GOING TO KILL HIMSELF AND I GOT SCARED, so I texted him that so he would call me back and I could stay on the damn phone with him, and tell him it was a fucking joke.
 
I never done pipes, but it doesn't sound like any of the reports I've ever read. Like someone said maybe PCP. I did that once and it was pretty weird like that, but who knows? Whatever they are flush the fuckers.
 
well that pill you mentioned is a pipe. and i think he just pretended to have amnesia to cover up the fact that he is a dumbass for cutting himself. did you actually see the cuts?
 
You sound like a really lousy friend to have. Why would you mess with someone who is having a bad experience and continue to screw with his head after he said he was going to kill himself?

+1. Thats horrible, even if you did offer to call for help later on. You fucked with his head twice, who cares if he did it to you? I really don't like sober people trying to fuck with me when I'm on anything, it really pisses me off actually. I've encountered very few that have done that, and they are assholes for it and in general.


and i think he just pretended to have amnesia to cover up the fact that he is a dumbass for cutting himself. did you actually see the cuts?

I'm wondering this as well. Plus, according to the time scale, this all seemed to have happened in a really short amount of time including it's end, so it just doesn't seem plausible. Plus, why would the OP suspect a response just like MDMA when he said he knew his friend was taking another substance in the first place?


I'm sorry, but quite a few things about this thread just don't add up for me.
 
You know, I really don't appreciate all these people judging me when you all know nothing about me, or him, or our relationship. We've been the closest friends for 6 years, and we've had each others backs through literally everything, and I would die for him with no second thought at all, and he would do the same for me. You were not there that night talking to him, if you had heard him, you would have understood. He was saying HELLA jokes, and he wasn't being really SERIOUS about anything. Even when I said that he laughed, but then he said he was going to kill himself and hung up, I was like WHAT THE FUCK?! And if you could have seen how badly I was freaking out, maybe all of you wouldn't think that I'm a horrible friend to him, because it really is the opposite, like I said, you don't know me, you don't know him, you don't know how we are, or how close we are and I'm sure you don't completely understand the situation, and how it went down. Moving on.

Yes, I saw the cuts on his arm, earlier today in fact. He has cut himself before, as he has been through some dark times, so there is no reason he would feel embarrassed to tell me about them, and no reason to lie about it. I really, honestly do believe he doesn't remember what happened... You should have heard him freaking out on the phone... He really sounded scared, and freaked out of his mind.
 
You know, I really don't appreciate all these people judging me when you all know nothing about me, or him, or our relationship. We've been the closest friends for 6 years, and we've had each others backs through literally everything, and I would die for him with no second thought at all, and he would do the same for me. You were not there that night talking to him, if you had heard him, you would have understood. He was saying HELLA jokes, and he wasn't being really SERIOUS about anything. Even when I said that he laughed, but then he said he was going to kill himself and hung up, I was like WHAT THE FUCK?! And if you could have seen how badly I was freaking out, maybe all of you wouldn't think that I'm a horrible friend to him, because it really is the opposite, like I said, you don't know me, you don't know him, you don't know how we are, or how close we are and I'm sure you don't completely understand the situation, and how it went down. Moving on.

Yes, I saw the cuts on his arm, earlier today in fact. He has cut himself before, as he has been through some dark times, so there is no reason he would feel embarrassed to tell me about them, and no reason to lie about it. I really, honestly do believe he doesn't remember what happened... You should have heard him freaking out on the phone... He really sounded scared, and freaked out of his mind.

why would anyone take those pills, knowing they're pipes, w/o checking pill reports? There's like 500000000000 reports on them this year, everyone who took them got sick/had a bad trip...

Obviously every drug affects everyone in a different way. BUT, FYI, with piperazines, they come in all forms, with varying effects. There are older/more common piperazines mCPP and BZP + TFMPP combo, then there's pFPP, meOPP, just to name a few, then there's people combining low (active) doses of MDxx in the mix like these: http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1964

there's all kinds of piperazines, and NEVER expect them to feel like another pipe you have taken, because they are mostly all different concoctions. some have more TFMPP(the hallucinogenic piperazine mixed with BZP-the stimulant)
 
i think he just pretended to have amnesia to cover up the fact that he is a dumbass for cutting himself.
+1
parse said:
Yes, I saw the cuts on his arm, earlier today in fact. He has cut himself before, as he has been through some dark times, so there is no reason he would feel embarrassed to tell me about them, and no reason to lie about it. I really, honestly do believe he doesn't remember what happened... You should have heard him freaking out on the phone... He really sounded scared, and freaked out of his mind.
you ever heard of memory repression? you can actually repress a traumatic/disturbing memory if you need to/want to. I have those kinds ... You? I'd be willing to bet he freaked out and just wants to forget about it. I would if i was him...
 
etarded said:
Obviously every drug affects everyone in a different way. BUT, FYI, with piperazines, they come in all forms, with varying effects. There are older/more common piperazines mCPP and BZP + TFMPP combo, then there's pFPP, meOPP, just to name a few, then there's people combining low (active) doses of MDxx in the mix like these: http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1964

Thank you. :)

ebola
 
You sound like a really lousy friend to have. Why would you mess with someone who is having a bad experience and continue to screw with his head after he said he was going to kill himself?

maybe he was just trying to help his friend out , maybe he knew he was having a bad trip which he did and the friend was.
 
What a dumbass... Never know whats in your ex dude. Next time buy a home test kit and test it before using but you have to buy multiple pills with the same print cause you cant use the same one after its tested.
 
I have tried pFPP, MCPP, TMFPP and never had anything like that. They make you a jumbled mess mentally, almost make you serene* I'm speaking of the psychedelic aspects mainly pFPP. The visuals are not real looking, they are more Carebears on 2c-i....just my 2cents.
 
I have another friend that took the same exact pill. The green saints... She said everyone looked like dinosaurs... Eheh...
 
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