Benzos physically addicted to Xanax.... kinda scared

[bluntedskier]

Prelude: I ramble on a lot here, but I just am having a tough time right now and have no one to talk to about this, so if nothing more than for therapeutic reasons, I decided to put this out there anonymously on the internet...


The only thing I've ever been highly "addicted" to was ganja.... going to ski academy, surrounded by that blunted culture and just being a teenager, like most of you I burned down fucking acres non-stop for many, many years and it became pretty much a real addiction.

Then I started developing anxiety between my first and second year in college for the first time in a real way. Blazing suddenly made me super anxious, even panic attacks and just became the opposite of enjoyable. So once again, as I am sure most of you know, it's extremely hard to stop something you are so used to and constantly offered, surrounded by etc. Eventually I completely quit though, and replaced getting high with just getting drunk and partying.

Anyways, fast forward sometime later, and many, many $500 visits later to this pretentious psychologist/therapist, and I am really sad and disappointed with myself to say I am physically addicted to a real, and serious drug.

For the longest time, he avoided giving me any benzos, but I continued to suffer from anxiety and panic attacks so severely (2 trips to the ER), that while he was away on vacation, his fill-in I guess had the compassion that he did not to realize how I was literally about to die, and how badly I needed to be on a benzo..... all the other shit he gave me from Gabapentin to Risperdal never helped. So she managed to get me a temporary prescription of Xanax XR, which I hadn't even heard of.

I still remember the very moment.... the first day I took it... although there is no 'high' or 'kicked in' feeling that IR has... I popped 1 or 2 (2mg each) in the morning and I went through the entire day feeling like I WAS OKAY AGAIN. My girlfriend was visiting and there was a lavish house party, and I was able to function as a normal fucking person.

So from there on - which was somewhere in late July or the early August. I have been on them since then. Because I was also reaching the Lithium levels that my doctor so strongly believes in, he kept up my perscription - 3 a day (so 6mg XR a day, which actually isn't as much as it sounds, compared to regular xanax)

For a while, perhaps a month, this was also in conjunction with a small prescription to Klonapin he had provided me with - since XRs don't really do anything if you are having a panic attack, they are extremely subtle and "pre-emptive".

But then we decided that we would switch over to IR 2mg Xanax bars as well as having the 2mg XRs each week, just so my brain was dealing with the same type of benzo. I really did a good job of not abusing them. I rarely, rarely ever found myself trying to get 'high.' I would end up with an overflow of each drug - meaning I was actually taking less than prescribed if you did an overall average.

Although I had lots of personal concerns about the Lithium (the possible dullness effect it has on my creative mind that I count on so much), and other things... My anxiety was diminished hugely. I think this has to do mostly with the lithium - but for a good period of time (I am talking recently), I got through the day with as little as just taking one or two of the XRs.

Then.... in the last month... is when everything kind of went wrong. I have a guilty pleasure towards adderall - I don't even need to explain because I am sure 90% of you know all about it..... but I loved how it allowed me to be a bliss of creativity and productivity and write so much and also feel amazing of course. And I think it helped counter act the feeling of 'dulling' that can come from Lithium.

The adderall wasn't an issue (I was NOT being perscribed adderall - to be clear), but then I picked up a bulk amount from this kid, to make an easy flip - which I did, but I was left with about 6 of them (30mg each).... so basically over a week and a half or so, I ended up taking most of them, which is a lot for me - which in return made me have to take more and more xanax.

Since then, my GAD / Panic disorder is still under control, I think once again mostly because of reaching the therapeutic lithium levels.

But BOTTOM LINE, now it has been months of me taking a minimum of basically 4mg a day, with an average of 6-7mg, to as much as 10-12mg a day (the 10 and 12mg days are pretty much just the times I've taken adderall for comedown).

Now I am really physically addicted and I am really scared/worried. I knew all along Xanax was a serious drug... but like I have never HAD to have a certain amount of chemicals in me each day to make sure I am safe from horrible panic attacks or rarely, but possible, even seizures.

My tolerance is insane - which is a sign of that alone. I can take 6mg of IR name brand bars at once (just did this once after a huge fight i had with my gf) and I was only mildly stoned/out of it.... and even was able to go out and drink heavily with friends and not even blackout or anything. If ANY of my friends had taken 6mg IR they would be passed the fuck out on the floor within 30 minutes...

So I finally admitted all these worries to my doctor, who isn't an idiot and knows the risks of Xanax.... well he said just start by trying to take just one 2mg XR in the morning and one at night, and go from there.

So to sum this up, I have taken some adderall again today for the first time (I know bad decision, but it was available, which is sorta rare, and I had a ton of video editing to do), and not even because of I am having a bad comedown or anything really, since I didn't take much - but baiscally "day 1 of tapering" is already a complete fail.

I am at 8mg right now for today, and I may need to take another 1mg to fall asleep. I notice that when I try and hold off on taking Xanax, even when I can feel that my body needs it - even if I don't start to get really anxious per-say, it's hard for me to function and I get more depressed and my mood changes for the worse.

I tried to hold off after waking up in the morning till a record 3:30 without taking anything at all..... and just as I was sipping a little coffee and thinking maybe I could go a day without it after all, and that I wasn't completely addicted... it hit me, conveniently when I was on the phone with a harvard professor... I could feel it coming on - I started sweating more and feeling slightly dissociative and had a hard time speaking articulately, so before things got more serious I quickly downed a 2mg bar and a 2mg XR... and it subsided soon after.

Please, anyone who has gone through Xanax addiction and can provide me with any real-world advice that I don't get my from my psychiatrist, I would really appreciate that. I never could really sympathize with anyone who had a real drug addiction before, and now I can.... except for the fact this has nothing to do with being high or any high in general. It's just keeping it 'maintained'.

I think I really might need to create a detailed chart, that has a very, very slow taper like as in going down by .25mg per week, where I can physically keep track of this and make sure I do not 'relapse'.

I have a couple Ambien left, so I think I am going to take 1 of those instead, and try and fall asleep, instead of just resorting to what the addicted side of my brain really wants me to do - which is 2mg bar and sink into bed, resulting in me just putting more xanax in my system and feeding my addiction. I'm assuming it wont be dangerous to mix just 10mg of Ambien with the like 30mg of Adderall I took earlier tonight, and all the benzos in my system....? I only took one 2mg IR bar a while ago to help comedown, and then one XR in the morning and two more in the afternoon and late evening. No drinking or Opiates or anything.

It's clear I can't take Adderall anymore because Adderall = crash and crash = benzos = xanax


AND I know there are much worse cases of people being on heavy doses like mine for years.... and I know it's not like I am addicted to Heroin or OCs... but I know Xanax is no joke and I won't lie, I am scared and ashamed that I have become an actual drug addict, even if it was all legal and through a doctor's handwriting.


(Hopefully) goodnight.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You need to have someone else hold onto your medications for you, someone you can really trust. A family member would be ideal. And unless you trust your girlfriend very much, I wouldn't recommend her.

You need to create a reasonable and ideal taper schedule, so that in a few months you won't be as dependent on alprazolam as you are now.

Share your plans with your doctor, and ask them for their approval. If you need that family member to come to your doctor's appointment, and even to the pharmacy with you, to make sure that you stay on the schedule, then do so.

Don't use alcohol either, it's going to mess up your taper plans and will just delay the inevitable, even likely to make it worse.

 

[anterrabae]

I take 1mg xanax 5x a day. It started at .25, .5 then the 1mg. It took a few months of running out early and having to cop or just plain withdrawal but I finally decided to give them to my father and he doles them out to me.

Sometimes he'll give in if I ask for more, actually most of the time, but it's nowhere near what I was taking when I had the bottle for my own. 150 1mg xanax is a huge temptation and a seemingly never-ending bottle. But I've finished it in under two weeks. That was when I made the decision.

 

[Vaya]

We're Here To Help

AND I know there are much worse cases of people being on heavy doses like mine for years.... and I know it's not like I am addicted to Heroin or OCs... but I know Xanax is no joke

You're right, bluntedskier, it isn't like you're addicted to heroin or oxycodone. Your situation is, in fact, much worse than that, and if you are honestly looking for advice from someone with a long history of benzodiazepine and opiate use (both on recreational and therapeutic schedules), I'd be happy to tell you why this is - and to provide some insight regarding what to expect on your future journey to rid your body and mind of this acutely helpful, yet chronically insidious, class of medications.

I also recommend researching the difference between "addiction" and "dependence," as they are two entirely separate entities.

But then we decided that we would switch over to IR 2mg Xanax bars as well as having the 2mg XRs each week, just so my brain was dealing with the same type of benzo

I'd like to first point out that this was a very poor decision on your doctor's part. You will eventually discover that the addition of the largest available dose of the IR formulation to your already very high daily XR intake of alprazolam has paved the way for a markedly more difficult tapering situation!

If you plan on making a commitment towards what will ultimately be the best thing for your mental health - that is, ridding your body and mind wholly and completely of this medication - you must first understand and accept that you have a very long and difficult road ahead of you, especially given the dosages you reported having been prescribed. I read your entire post, and although it seems you are aware that having a physiological addiction to a benzodiazepine can be quite dangerous to your physical and psychological well being, you also seem to be more caught up with the social stigma of "addiction," (re: the allusion to opiates) rather than the potentially life-threatening consequences of dependency.

On the subject of dependency as a general concept: Being physically dependent on a prescribed medication that by virtue of its own pharmacodynamics induces physical dependency over time is nothing to be ashamed about! It is absolutely something to be very concerned with, though. Having a physical dependence on the daily dose of IR and XR alprazolam that you are currently taking is by far and wide more worrisome than if you were physically dependent on likewise high doses of heroin or oxycodone because a full and complete taper from benzodiazepines typically requires between 6 and 18 months of diligent lifestyle readjustment. By contrast, tapering off of opiates takes a matter of weeks at best and is rarely, if ever, life-threatening. Improper tapering from benzos can cause life-threatening seizures, and the shorter a benzodiazepine's half life, the greater the chance is of having a withdrawal-induced seizure and entering delirium tremens (DT) if done too quickly. Alprazolam has an extremely short half life (relative to most other benzodiazepines) of 6-12 hours (11-16 hours for the XR formula), thus making it a poor choice for tapering. Benzodiazepines with longer half lives (Klonopin - 18-50 hours; Valium [the gold standard for tapering] - 20-100 hours) are usually indicated for those wishing for freedom from benzos.

Before beginning to titrate your dose down, have your doctor switch you to diazepam. Phenobarbital (a barbiturate) used to be indicated for benzo taper, but once it became clear that the patients (such as myself) were becoming addicted to the phenobarbital instead, Valium became the preferred method of titrating the benzo dependence down (again, due to its high plasma protein binding).

Furthermore, tapering off of benzodiazepines very frequently causes a phenomenon known as rebound anxiety. Rebound anxiety is precisely what it sounds like - when the condition for which the medicine was originally prescribed (e.g. anxiety) returns, oftentimes with greater intensity than when the medication was originally prescribed. Unfortunately, rebound anxiety's abnormally greater strength is what catches the unfortunate patient off-guard, and a good percentage of patients find themselves unable to cope, preferring instead to abandon the taper and return to their original medication schedules. This is especially unfortunate because by extending the amount of time spent on the drug, they find it even more difficult to stop for good if future attempts are made.

I tried to hold off after waking up in the morning till a record 3:30 without taking anything at all..... and just as I was sipping a little coffee and thinking maybe I could go a day without it after all, and that I wasn't completely addicted... it hit me

…As it should have! NOT taking the medicine that you are physiologically dependent on was a mistake, and you should now understand why, given alprazolam's short half life. By trying to "hold off" in order to prove to yourself you aren't addicted, you allowed withdrawal to set in. At your daily dosage of between 6 and 12mg/day, this was an especially dangerous decision to make because it allowed for the possibility that you might have entered DT (mentioned above). Delirium tremens is a state of uncontrolled, randomized electrical activity in the brain - essentially a series of dramatic seizure activity - and represents the period of benzodiazepine withdrawal that can leave you dead. To return to the comparison between dependence on benzodiazepines versus opiates, DT is what makes dependence on the former so much more dangerous. Five years ago, I was prescribed 5mg of alprazolam AND 3mg of clonazepam per day, and when both of my prescriptions were stolen by a then-acquaintance of mine, I entered into DT within 72 hours; after three consecutive Grand mal seizures I had to be hospitalized and almost lost my life.

I am providing you with this lengthy explanation of DT as a plea to you to not try to prove to yourself that you aren't dependent, because after reading your post, it is very clear to me that you ARE dependent and need to treat the situation with great care. You are heavily dependent on a benzodiazepine, but this does NOT mean that you cannot recover. You very simply need to do it the right way!

You need to have someone else hold onto your medications for you, someone you can really trust. A family member would be ideal. And unless you trust your girlfriend very much, I wouldn't recommend her.

You need to create a reasonable and ideal taper schedule, so that in a few months you won't be as dependent on alprazolam as you are now.

Share your plans with your doctor, and ask them for their approval. If you need that family member to come to your doctor's appointment, and even to the pharmacy with you, to make sure that you stay on the schedule, then do so.

Don't use alcohol either, it's going to mess up your taper plans and will just delay the inevitable, even likely to make it worse.

This is all very, very sage advice from a man who also knows what he is talking about when it comes to dependency and withdrawal from benzodiazepines. I strongly recommend you heed it to make this endeavor as easy on yourself and reassured as possible.

If you follow a strict taper schedule with diazepam over 6-12 months, I have no doubts you will be back on your feet without the sense of fear and loss of control that you indicated in your post very clearly.

Since then, my GAD / Panic disorder is still under control, I think once again mostly because of reaching the therapeutic lithium levels.

Then you have shown yourself that you can live free of benzodiazepines, haven't you?

Please, anyone who has gone through Xanax addiction and can provide me with any real-world advice that I don't get my from my psychiatrist, I would really appreciate that.

I truly hope that I have helped ease your fear and have shed light on those aspects of benzo dependence that have left you so frightened and worried. Here's my own bottom line:
You can do this. It may take some time, but your life will be yours again!

And always know you have the freedom to send me a Private Message (PM) with any further questions or concerns. I am more than happy to help you in any way I can to well and truly beat this.

Kindest regards,

~ vaya

 

[bluntedskier]

thank you for the support

Wow.. thank you Vaya for taking your time to write that. I have never sincerely been provided with such genuine, knowledgeable and caring advice from someone random on the internet.... I even copied and pasted your post to my father and doctor in an email. I appreciate you being upfront and honest with me, I am not going to lie, you made me feel more anxious about the realities of the potential serious danger of my situation but also that I am not doomed.


I honestly really like the guy... and once again, he came through many recommendations to my parents and is certainly qualified, or at least I thought so... until now.

What really upset me is that while ultimately I blame myself, he said something along the lines of "well you were the one who kept pushing for the xanax..." - this pissed me off because A. This is not true, he was the one who was perscribing them, I never begged for Xanax, ever. I just told him I couldn't take the anxiety and benzos were the only thing that stopped it at the time. B. I can't write the perscriptions - he did. C. If he is so qualified why would he set me up at such high amounts? D. During our last meeting (tuesday) he seemed way laid back about this situation and like I said, just kind of vaguely told me to try and start reducing my amount, and didn't write me the usual perscriptions.

OBVIOUSLY he has to write them soon, before I run out, or I am fucked. Seriously, he's a nice guy once again but my parents are paying him close to $500 per week for what, to play around with different drugs until he found one that he thought was right (Lithium), and then ultimately get me addicted to a drug that I did not even know the seriousness until recently.... /rant




I have a deadline for some work I have to do, but I will definitely be getting back to you, as it seems that you really know what you are talking about in this case.

I just have soo many opportunities that I have been blessed with, and I am determined not to let my life go to waste because of these fucking stupid pills.

 

[Vaya]

I am not going to lie, you made me feel more anxious about the realities of the potential serious danger of my situation but also that I am not doomed.

Sometimes a little bit of fear is the necessary motivator for change; relish it, if you can

In all seriousness, though, I'm awfully glad I could help. And rest assured that because you've only been taking Xanax for a couple months, you really should not have as much trouble getting off of it as would most. I myself have been on various types of benzos in varying quantities for nearly ten years now, for example, and many more Bluelighters for longer than that!

Again, hit me up anytime if you need more information.

~ vaya

 

[vanboy5]

You WILL beat this!!! I KNOW it!!!

bluntedskier,

First of all, I want you to know that I agree with Vaya completely, and I hope there are more people like Vaya in this world who are willing to spend the time and effort to help a fellow Bluelighter in distress.

I would like to share with you some of my experiences, as well as some questions that I have for you. Later I will elaborate a little bit on what Vaya has already kindly written to you with regards to substance dependence, withdrawal, and the process of a proper titration off of a powerful anxiolytic like Xanax.

Before you read my next post please check this out:

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm#s1

THE FIRST CHART YOU SEE APPLIES TO YOU! It's titled,

"Schedule 1. Withdrawal from high dose (6mg) alprazolam (Xanax
daily with diazepam (Valium) substitution. (6mg alprazolam
is approximately equivalent to 120mg diazepam)"

Please take a look at it, and I would even suggest you bring the chart to your doctor and ask him/her if you can work together with this tapering schedule.

This won't be a an instant cure for your alprazolam dependence - tapering from benzos actually means withdrawing from them. However, as Vaya mentioned, the longest possible withdrawal schedule will make your life much, much easier and the actual withdrawal should not impair your day to day functioning to any unreasonable extent. You may need to mentally prepare for what you may have to encounter; however, to be free from the clutches of a powerful benzo like Xanax would make your taper, very, very worthwhile. Also note that using Valium to withdrawal as comfortably as possible from Xanax will also mean that eventually having to withdrawal (taper off of) Valium as well. However, due to Valiums extremely long half-life, getting of it is actually much more tolerable than the terrifying effects of Xanax withdrawal.

Xanax is such a potent anxiolytic that it would make your anxiety disorders MUCH, MUCH worse when if you decided to take less of it to try to quit it (I still can't believe your doctor asked you to do that... well... just considering my own experiences with doctors in the past, and the friends of mine who are in med school and have admitted to me that they earn commissions for many of the prescriptions they right, i can actually quite believe that your doctor made such a rudimentary decision on how to take you off of Xanax).

From what I gather from your post, you suffer from two Anxiety Disorders: 1) GAD 2) Panic Disorder. I would be interested to know the exact diagnoses (with DSM/ICD codes) that your doctor has given you. That way, you can bring it up with him/her and create a clearer, better picture of what you and your doctor believe your anxiety problems are. For example, do you also struggle with agoraphobia which is very common with Panic Disorder? The beginning of a more detailed and conclusive discussion of what's bothering you will lessen that professional distance between doctor and patient/layman. Your doctor should then be more willing if not even perhaps interested to hear your suggestions. In any case, these are serious illnesses that seemed to have severely impaired your socio-occupational functioning. In other words, you couldn't function "normally" nor feel "normal" (not until you began treatment with Xanax XR). Anyway, my point is, if you do eventually decide to use the first two schedules (the first two charts) from the link I sent you, your doctor will tell likely tell you that there still needs to be addressed the fact that you suffer from panic disorder and GAD which will still be present and maybe even worsen due to the rebound anxiety resulting from benzodiazepine withdrawal.

Talk to your doc about starting a new programme of treatment to treat your anxiety disorders involving psychotherapy + pharmacotherapy at the same time as you begin your taper (if you decide to do so). Cognitive behavioural thearpy (CBT) and even psychodynamic psychotherapy are two schools of branches of psychotherapy that happen to be extremely effective against anxiety disorders; however, they are more of a long-term solution (we're looking at up to a year before seeing marked, significant improvement), and also require regular visits to a clinician (I would find a good, top-notch clinical psychologist). In terms of pharmacotherapy, SSRI antidepressants are also extremely effective against many anxiety disorders. Even though I am practically opening up a new can of worms by suggesting you to mention to your doc about using an appropriate SSRI, this class of drugs are beneficial in your position because it's significantly more benign than the benzodiazepine class on so many levels. Both non-habit forming medication AND psychotherapy will alleviate you further still as your body adjusts to functioning without the presence of benzos.

My suggestion is for you talk to your doctor about starting these forms of treatment for your anxiety at the same time as you start your tapering (or more accurately "withdrawal" schedule.

I'm getting really tired, but I've so much more to share with you. Just know that you are not alone, and please feel free to Skype me (my skype name is baobao_tsai). I will write more later. I would love to talk to you and even write a letter to your doctor about my own personal recovery.

I am going to write a new post with the many thoughts I am dying to share with you should you not have skype or feel uncomfortable talking to a total stranger (I do too but I feel I ccan really relate). So no worries on that front.

I hope you don't mind my asking, when you refer to Lithium, do you mean you are currently taking Lithium for a mood disorder (eg. Bipolar Disorder)?

Wishing you the very best and please stay strong, be confident, and have faith.

btw... how the hell do i change my horrifying screen name?

 

[SPEAKLOUD]

i have been taking xanax for around a year .25 as needed, which started every few days i would take one or 2, then twice a day, then i would stop for a while and be ok, then the last 2 months ive been taking .5 twice a day, last week i decided that i only want .25 twice a day and around 5:30 every day i start to feel the muscle twitch and spasms, not bad, but i feel them, i want to get back to using only a few times a week when i really need them .AM I AT RISK FOR SEIZURES doing so? my anxiety is ok , but i worry about the withdraws, please help if you can , any info would be great. I never get high taking these, i only use for anxiety... i almost lost my dad last year which has me in a state of reality that we will all die. i never abuse these pill and they are presribed by docs that say take em every day, but i dont want to, i dont take anything else either, they want me on anti depressants but no no........ please and thanks.

 

[Znegative]

I just wrote a long response and it got deleted... god damnit.

i'm in a similair situation. been using benzo's for a little over 3 months. 1st month kept it to about 2.5 mg a day,,second month, went up to 3-4 mg a day, and now I take a minimum of 5 mg a day, but often find myself pigging out and taking around 8 mg.

i explained the situation to my doctor who then put me on klonopin, but she woudln't prescribe me more than 1 mg a day. What's worse, is that she only gives me a weeks worth prescriptions to control my use. Obviously 1 mg of klonopin is not a good ammount to start off at when you've been taking as high as 8x the ammount of an equally potent drug, so I basically just look at the klonopin as an extra mg of benzo to take every day.

Unlike you I really don't worry about the stigma of addiction, Though perhaps thats because I've been using heroin and other drugs for several years now, that I just sort of stopped caring. Especially for you, I don't think you should be so concerned about this. You have to be worried about your health. There are so many people around the world addicted to xanax, klonopin etc, and it ranges from not just junkies but to housewives and grandma's.

good look, listen to vaya, she seems to know what she's talking about.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^I find in general, listening to vaya is a pretty good policy. Its not a big deal, but for the record, vaya is a gentleman (and unrelated, also a scholar).

Thanks vanboy for mentioning the ashton manual... every benzo withdrawal or tapering thread should have a link to that.

If you talk about my grandma again though z, we're going to have problems My nana NEEDS her ninety milligrams of nitrazepam nightly.

 

[Vaya]

^I find in general, listening to vaya is a pretty good policy. Its not a big deal, but for the record, vaya is a gentleman (and unrelated, also a scholar).

I pay him to say these things... check's in the mail, Cane.
But in all reality. Thank you very much, sir.


~ vaya

 

[Vaya]

First of all, I want you to know that I agree with Vaya completely, and I hope there are more people like Vaya in this world who are willing to spend the time and effort to help a fellow Bluelighter in distress.

Thank you so kindly vanboy5. Harm reduction is the name of the game, always and forever.

(6mg alprazolam
is approximately equivalent to 120mg diazepam)

No.Way. (!!!!) I've always disagreed with this, and so does most of the medical literature...

1mg alprazolam = 10mg diazepam so 6mg alpraz = 60mg diaz
120mg is a gigantic dose of valium. It would knock most people out cold...
Really wonderful overall post though, vb. Kudos :D
~ vaya

 

[chitown rollin]

first off I wanna say that your doctor is an IDIOT (although I would love to meet him...). You are prescribed to WAY TOO MUCH xanax. you need to start from wherever you are at and work your way down maybe every week 1 mg until you are there and then you can go down to .75, .5, etc. I hope the best for you man, from a long term Xanax user to another.

 

[Sight Unseen]

To Vaya, in every benzo equivalency chart I've seen it's 10mg Valium=0.5mg Xanax.

 

[SkagKush]

^ yup, also just for reference......

.5mg xanax = 10mg valium = 1mg k pin = 1mg ativan.......aprox

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Most charts show equivalency as -

.5mg alprazolam (xanax)
.5mg clonazepam (klonopin)
1mg lorazepam (ativan)

and there is discrepancy over whether the above equal 5 or 10mg of diazepam (valium) but I'd agree with vaya and say 5mg.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ yup, also just for reference......

.5mg xanax = 10mg valium = 1mg k pin = 1mg ativan.......aprox

xanax and kpins are equipotent.

.5mg alprazolam = .5mg clonazepam= 1mg lorazepam= 10mg diazepam.

EDIT: oops sorry Cane.. i see you already covered that.

EDIT 2: Just to throw it out there.. phenazepam is also equal to alprazolam and clonazepam in dosage.

 

[jonny11007]

BluntedSkier,

You really helped me out a few days ago on one of my questions I had regarding Xanax, and I just wanted to let you know that you seem to have a great head on your shoulders. You can and will rid yourself of Xanax.. People have given you amazing feedback so far, people here that really care for your well being. Good luck with everything!

 

[SkagKush]

sorry guys, i meant to say from my exp....im kinda noddin

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ lucky bastard. lol %)