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Phyllomedusa Bicolor venom (Sapo)

johannes kreisler

johannes kreisler

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this sounds really fucked up: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Phyllomedusa_bicolor.shtml

in short it's some kind of frog poison. ROA is burning away some skin and dropping it on the flesh :o ... =D
the result is intense and shocking - heavy on the body of course - with nice residual effects and probably 'health benefits'.

I've never heard of anything remotely similar to that.
but I'm always interested in those 'it's not a trip, it's not really fun, I don't know if I like it but it's definitely an experience'-psychoactives.

does someone have more info/did someone try it?
 
A friend of mine has done this, locally apparently (Europe). He had good things to say about it but unfortunately I forgot the specifics. He was not suffering from some serious condition but had some benefit nonetheless.
Let me see if you are linking to the fybromialgia report, I read that.. [oh, linking to all of them]
I wonder if there is anything known about the mechanism of action? Dermorphin is an opioid??? Strange, that doesn't sound like it has much lasting use... other messenger peptides that modulate the immune system? OK wildly guessing here. What do these do

Holy shit you can buy this?? 8o
 
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^ Agreed but I read "fucked up" in another way, the burning and the fact that you dip a poison into a wound is what you might call unorthodox in western cultures. That's how I interpret Johannes' post. :)
 
If the venom works via the above described ROA, would it not work buccally or sublingually? Or is that not a good idea... Nasally?
 
So dermorphine is one of the actives inside? There´s been at least one vendor selling this as synthetic. the few trip reports around says it´s complete worthless shit. I asume some of the other content inside must be resonsible for it´s favorable action.
 
^ trip reports of dermorphin or of the frog venom?

I noticed in doing it that you can do it wrong... i.e. not mix water with the venom enough to get it gooey and applicable.

Sekio- who said anything about IV administration?
 
From the Wiki:
This species is now jeopardized by biopiracy because it produces a waxy secretion that may have medicinal uses against AIDS, cancer and other diseases.
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Very interesting, I always have a huge amount of respect for shamans, as they have a much greater knowledge of plants and medicine than some of our smartest scientists and doctors today.

I must admit I never heard of this before, I'll definitely be checking back on this thread to find out more.
 
Holy shit you can buy this??
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yep! never done it personally but i know of places to get it, sold in bundles of sticks that have been rolled around in the venom. you dab the stick with some saliva, burn yourself and then press it into the burn, as has already been stated. you can get pure dermorphin too if memory serves, but i wouldn't go messing with that stuff given its astronomical potency. hamilton morris did a short documentary on this as well.
 
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