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Phenylpiperazine HCL [not BZP!]

BLreturn11

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http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=22420

^This erowid report suggests the person in question ingested Phenylpiperazine HCL (by mistake thinking it was BZP) and got what appeared to be toxic symptoms.

Clearly not a good idea! & in no way recreational. The report itself got me wondering though, anyone guess (just for novelty) the pharmacology that might have been in play? Predictions on activity? Maybe a more toxic panicogen similar to mCPP?

Looks scarily close to MPTP as well.
 
Phenylpiperazine would mean that there is one carbon less between the aromatic ring and the nitrogen. This is analogous to phenethylamines that are toxic in the phenmethylamine versions or as a better example gramine which is toxic and is basically DMT with one carbon less between the rings and the nitrogen.
 
Assuming that what this guy took was actually phenylpiperazine and not mCPP or some other substituted ppz. His experience sounds very similar to what one would expect from a potent, though not selective, 5-HT2C agonist- like mCPP. In other words a nasty time.

Some scientists did try plain "PP" on animals, but the study is old and the abstract inconclusive. Here's the cite:

Central serotoninmimetic action of phenylpiperazines.

Maj J, Lewandowska A.


Edit: also, the similarity to MPTP and MPP+ is superficial, in my opinion.
 
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