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Phenylethylamine (PEA) 1.5grams - Experienced - "A Waste"

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Info on PEA:

Phenylethylamine/Phenethylamine/PEA are all names for the same compound. In short, PEA is a natural neuromodulator that is produced in the brain. PEA is similar to dopamine and nor-epinephrine and is often touted on the Internet as “enhancing dopamine and nor-epinephrine transmission”, “elevating mood”, or as “the body’s natural amphetamine”. In addition many forum-users have described its’ effects as euphoric and is often generalized as a nice “high”. PEA is currently marketed as a nootropic effective in improving mood and increasing energy. Online research (forums) have helped discover that certain doses of PEA can induce a “high”.

My experience:

All of these claims had me intrigued. I have tried many nootropics that work on mood. I have tried 5-HTP, tryptophan, SAM-E, L-Phenylalanine, D-Phenylalanine, GABA, ect ect. Obviously I like getting high but also the science end of it interests me greatly. I often experiment on myself. Anyways I bought some PEA and decided to take the average dose to induce the “high” I had read so much about.

I took 1.5 grams. The general consensus online is that the threshold for effects is around 1 gram. It seems that the bodie’s MAOB? can immediately metabolize about a gram of the PEA so you need a gram just to counter the MAOB + the ½ gram for the effects. I took the dose via gel caps, do not eat the stuff or mix in drink it taste like metal!

In about 10 minutes I could feel the effects coming on… first a change in vision (difficult to describe), then a tingling sensation in the peripherals, and lastly some form of brain buzzing going on but altogether different than the buzz of a cigarette or a beer. The effects peaked at about 20 minutes and were gone by about 30 minutes.

Although I was glad I experienced the PEA it did not live up to my expectations. It provided no discernable energy, which was an affect that I was expecting after reading about it. Does it provide a “high”?…I would say yes, but in the same way something like salvia provides a “high”. Basically it gives many of the effects of being high except all of its’ effects are neutral. The effects are neither positive or negative. The tingling in the limbs for example isn’t really pleasant but not altogether unpleasant. I’m pretty sure the “buzz” doesn’t effect any of the key neurotransmitters because it is NOT euphoric it is just a weird buzzing kind of like a small dose of salvia.

Cliffs:

You can become “intoxicated from PEA” but it is hardly a high and if it is a high is certainly not pleasant. At best it is a neutral experience. Anyone who says it is euphoric has not experienced euphoria. Save your money.
 
without maob-inhibition, this will exert mostly placebo effects...maybe something at TAAR...
also, in general if one needs to saturate a key enzyme to yield effects from a given drug, that drug is more likely to be toxic, the main exception here being ethanol.
 
Your report is similar to what I experienced - numbness in limbs that sort of felt dissociative-like, vision change (and when i got up and moved around, everything was more "fluid" like a low dose of DMT), maybe slightly mentally stimulated (felt like chatting more online, but kept making spelling mistakes trying to type too fast), but not euphoric at all mostly felt "weird".

Even though PEA sucks, its still seems to be active for 10 mins or so if you take enough...um, without an mao inhibitor too, i dunno.. i doubted it too but i don't understand all these people that come on and announce "the fact" that it can't possibly do anything without an mao inhibitor, you know cause shugin said so or whatever hehe.. (i'd imagine if you DID IV PEA it would be very strong, i'm not gonna try it though hehe) but it clearly does something, not too pleasant but its not totally inactive without an maoi.
 
What did you expect? What little amount that would actually cross the BBB would be rapidly metabolized by MAO.
 
I was expecting something pleasant due to all the online hype about PEA inducing a "euphoric high"
 
The half-life of PEA is 5-10 minutes (wiki). Part of the peripheral feelings were probably from excesses of metabolites running around.
 
What did you expect? What little amount that would actually cross the BBB would be rapidly metabolized by MAO.

Why do you even talk? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Phenethylamine readily crosses the blood brain barrier.

What little made it out of the gut would be rapidly metabolized before it crossed the brain.

The half-life of PEA is 5-10 minutes (wiki). Part of the peripheral feelings were probably from excesses of metabolites running around.

Yeah, because phenethyl oxime and phenethyl hydroxylamine are biologically active...
 
Well by god, i just ordered some PEA for shits and giggles..but i guess i just wasted $20... oh well... is it even worth trying it on a boring day???
I also ordered some Aniracetam, which I have read many good things about. I got the Aniracetam to hopefully help me study/do better in class at college..
 
Your mistake was lack of inhibition of the mao enzymes ... people use the "quickroll" method by using 100mg-200mg caffeine 10-15 minutes beforehand of the PEA dose which lets the enzymes be occupied temporarily while the PEA peaks then slowly gets broken down within an hour
 
Your mistake was lack of inhibition of the mao enzymes ... people use the "quickroll" method by using 100mg-200mg caffeine 10-15 minutes beforehand of the PEA dose which lets the enzymes be occupied temporarily while the PEA peaks then slowly gets broken down within an hour

I am aware of the methods different methods of use such as using selegeline and kava to inhibit PEA breakdown, but none of that matters because the effects from PEA are IMO simply not desirable.
 
I like it. cant wait to try it with deprenyl.

Its like skipping the early low dose effects of mephedrone & jumping right to the high dose effects.

If you dont like it & prefer the "energy, awake" effects why not just stick to ritalin??

Jeeze what do you kids want these days??? you will not find a legal MDMA altertnative just give up looking. :D
 
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