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Phenobarbital for opiate withdrawal

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Shant

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Doctors are loathe to prescribe this stuff now for some reasons unless it's being used to control seizures. I inducted suboxone today. It's 4:55am as I post this. I haven't eaten or slept a wink. I'm thinking of calling my doc tomorrow and tell him that I'm in PWD again and I don't want to relapse. I want to convince him to give me a 3 day supply of benzos, muscle relaxers (Baclofen seems to be the best choice) for the muscle spasms, and the phenobarbital for (a chance at) sleeping.

1- Does phenobarbital really help when you're kicking? IS there something better out there?
2- What approach should I take to convince the doc to write all the scripts...especially the Pheno? Thanks,

Shant
 
Shant said:
Doctors are loathe to prescribe this stuff now for some reasons unless it's being used to control seizures. I inducted suboxone today. It's 4:55am as I post this. I haven't eaten or slept a wink. I'm thinking of calling my doc tomorrow and tell him that I'm in PWD again and I don't want to relapse. I want to convince him to give me a 3 day supply of benzos, muscle relaxers (Baclofen seems to be the best choice) for the muscle spasms, and the phenobarbital for (a chance at) sleeping.

1- Does phenobarbital really help when you're kicking? IS there something better out there?
2- What approach should I take to convince the doc to write all the scripts...especially the Pheno? Thanks,

Shant
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Baclofen isn't as good as somas somas are far superior

And yes phenobarbital will prally help with opiate withdrawal as its a barbiturate with a very long lasting half life
 
Be careful I heard from a friend who used to take benzos and barbiturates together and they react VERY STRONG TOGETHER. Like tiny amount together knocks u out cold
 
Slam_everything said:
Baclofen isn't as good as somas somas are far superior

And yes phenobarbital will prally help with opiate withdrawal as its a barbiturate with a very long lasting half life
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You were absolutely right about the baclofen brother. Weak ass shit. Even at 60mg which is a lot for one dose. I'm not willing to try more than that. But for whatever reason somas don't do shit to me anymore. I always take 2 at a time. I didn't think you'd get a tolerance to em. Maybe it's all the other meds masking its effects. Not sure. The doc reccomended flexeril. Wish I'd listened to him. Thanks for the response.
 
creamcheese said:
Be careful I heard from a friend who used to take benzos and barbiturates together and they react VERY STRONG TOGETHER. Like tiny amount together knocks u out cold
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Good to know, but he wasn't about to give me the pheno. No benzos either. Not even just for a 3 day supply. All he'd give me was a muscle relaxer of my choice, and I chose wrong. Anyhow, the gabapentin did help quite a bit. Thanks again
 
Soma (carisoprodol) is much better than baclofen, I stopped taking it a few days ago, I took it for 2 weeks and it really helped me with some of the withdrawal symptoms.

I would not use phenobarbital, instead I would use diazepam (safer) here where I live phenobarbital is very cheap and I can get it without a prescription, but it is unpleasant, diazepam and carisoprodol helped me a lot the first 2 weeks of WDs (I have been taking benzos for 4 years )
 
Nicocastillo7 said:
Soma (carisoprodol) is much better than baclofen, I stopped taking it a few days ago, I took it for 2 weeks and it really helped me with some of the withdrawal symptoms.

I would not use phenobarbital, instead I would use diazepam (safer) here where I live phenobarbital is very cheap and I can get it without a prescription, but it is unpleasant, diazepam and carisoprodol helped me a lot the first 2 weeks of WDs (I have been taking benzos for 4 years )
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Valiums are rare for some reason. I believe they have a low seizure threshold but don’t quote me on that. But I’m sure 1mg of Xanax and somas would do the trick. I took 4mg of klonopin and 2 somas last night (on top of Ambien & weed). That was enough for me to get 3 hours of sleep.
 
Nope. I’m back to suboxone. 8mg stable. Sleep never comes easy during this phase for some reason. Maybe in a few months?
 
Nicocastillo7 said:
Soma (carisoprodol) is much better than baclofen, I stopped taking it a few days ago, I took it for 2 weeks and it really helped me with some of the withdrawal symptoms.

I would not use phenobarbital, instead I would use diazepam (safer) here where I live phenobarbital is very cheap and I can get it without a prescription, but it is unpleasant, diazepam and carisoprodol helped me a lot the first 2 weeks of WDs (I have been taking benzos for 4 years )
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Just kinda curious where it is you live that you can get the pheno without a script?
 
Shant said:
you can get the pheno without a script?
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OpiateKiller said:
Probably South America - Argentina, Colombia, Peru, Brazil, etc.
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exactly, I live in Argentina, you can buy phenobarbital at vets here, and other things. It is like a kind of "gray area" because they are for use on animals, they do not sell it to you without a prescription at a pharmacy.
Anyway, I would like to clarify that I am not sure if in the whole country you can buy those meds without a prescription.
 
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