Phenibut and muscle soreness

[Solipsis]

This is not at all about phenibut being able to cause muscle soreness. Exactly a week ago I exercised excessively after having lead quite a sedentary lifestyle for a while. Since I started a new job I have become more active and have started working out. The excess was with 2 1/2 hours of soccer while the relevant muscles were in no shape or condition for it.
For this last week I've had DOMS, which is not that strange. But normally DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) would last more like something around 5 days while the intensity of soreness has not decreased that much. At the same time it is clear that after about 5 days I was able again to ride my bike in a good tempo without feeling extra messed up.
Also, this week I have been taking phenibut in eyeballed doses that do not exceed 1g except for yesterday.

So here's my theory: the DOMS means muscle damage and soreness is felt because of this but it hurts more from lactic acid. Phenibut is an acid being a GABA derivative, has a long half-life and has poor bioavailability so a lot of it is just "floating" around in the blood pretty much all the time during my DOMS. Also, GHB which is also an acid or at least the Na-salt conjugates with it, makes you feel good and euphoric but if you have pain it makes it feel worse instead of being analgesic like lots of other euphoriants. So I just realized: maybe the phenibut is making my damaged muscles sore and it might even interact with repair although that last bit is far-fetched perhaps and has no good basis.

What do you think?

 

[PepperSocks]

Whenever I use phenibut I feel it in my legs. My knees get very stiff, achey, and cold to the touch. My leg muscles also feel very sore. It's likely the biggest thing I dislike about phenibut.

I've searched before about leg aches, cold knees on phenibut but came up empty handed.

 

[23536]

the phenibut is not more acidic than the buckets of carbonic acid / carbonate / carbon dioxide coursing through your blood at all times

 

[sekio]

That, and carbonate/bicarbonate acts as a good buffer solution so blood pH doesn't like to change.

I think you just overdid it with the excercise.

 

[Solipsis]

Good point. I think something like what I described would cause metabolic acidosis more than something else and it would need a different kind or amounts of acid like with hyperventilation (I actually got acidosis from that once, I was in the ER at the time). So no it being an acid is probably not it, but still things like GHB can make you more sensitive in general, to pain or heat or touch, etc. Which can be a very nice and sensual thing but also a problem apparently. I think that's what is still happening here, but through what mechanism I would not know.

Well ok then.