RCs Phenazepam

[Cocorosie]

I've very experienced in RC's, or at least I used to be. I stopped a few years ago, right before they banned buying 5-MeO-DMT, 2C-B, 2C-I, etc.

Opiates got the best of me..


Fast forward a few years and I am clean from the H, nice job. I've been on Suboxone 8mg daily (supposed to take 16, and sometimes I even skip days)
I am also prescribed 4mg clonazepam a month (2x2mg a day). I started eating all 60 of them in a week. Thus begun my research.

I did a lot of research and found a supplier willing to ship... well, just about anything. I tested them out with 1 gram of 2c-I. It was spot on..

So I placed an order of 5 grams of Phenazepam, she said for a little more she would double it and I could just owe her/them. Well, it was stuck in customs so she sent out another 10 grams.

They both arrived today. 20.8 grams of Phenazepam... I did all the prep work, got the .0000 scales, gel tablets and a little machine to help me make up 50 at a time.

My problem is.... I am totally fucking scared to black out. I tried to put the smallest amount possible on the scare.. came in at .0002, and it was just a few little spec of power. The wind blew it away from my hand as I reached for my cigarette. I took 2mg of the 2c-I and it was ultra amazing. Better than years back.

The state I am in sales Everclear. Should I dose it that way? It's going to be impossible to cap up, plus I recall from years back when we all had pure Diazepam power we will just keep key bumping, forgetting be bumped and bumped some more. The entire town was wasted from it. I believe someone still doesn't have their short term memory back.

What I am asking for here is advise. Best way to do it, good dose to start at, etc.

-Coco

 

[skankzilla]

I've heard that putting it into a vial of propylene glycol (sp) is one of the only ways to do it safely.
0.5mg 2-3 times daily with a non tolerant user...not to exceed 10mg in one day.

 

[sekio]

The best way to "do" phenazepam is to have no more than 100mg on hand for emergency usage. 20 grams is an irresponsible amount.

Key bumps or regular, repeated usage will ensure a blackout. Don't dose more than 1mg at once. Never redose in the same day, and for fucks sake do not expect euphoria. Phenazepam has a 100+ hour half life but the desirable effects are much shorter-lived than that.

Phenaz is a good "emergency" benzo but it's no Valium.

 

[Cocorosie]

So flush 15 grams, and keep using my clonazepam, and phenazepam when I run out. I'll try to keep it an after work thing, too. 100k a year job and my boss has asked me twice if I have a drug problem. Both times were from Somas.

 

[sekio]

The last thing you want is to lose your job because you were blacked out for a week.

Personally, if I had 20.8 grams of phenazepam, I would flush (or give away, depending on how much you trust your friends) 20.3 grams and suspend the remaining 500mg in a litre of alcohol (0.5mg/ml). Dose is 1-2ml with an oral syringe (the kind for feeding babies or pets liquid medicine). Put some dark blue dye and a poison picture on the bottle (and cap!) just so there's no confusion at all.

The closest benzo in active use that resembles phenazepam is clonazepam. It should substitute OK.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

i used to keep hundreds of grams of it in my possession.. don't listen to this guy, just because he is a mod doesn't make him any better than a regular BLer.. as long as you can trust yourself, keep it all.. i have had 20 grams in a medicine bottle for about 6 months, i used to buy hundreds of grams at a time like i said, nothing bad ever happened to me with it.. the thing that made me quit my old job was i was too fucked up on pure carisoprodol powder to work for like 3 days so i had to quit, or work completely fucked up but i chose NOT to make my place of employment look like they hire drug addicts. And i was in a management position.

I've been watching this mod answer and then close threads without allowing others to answer the question/s since he got appointed Mod im surprised this one is still open! I guess i should have applied for it like i was asked to do.

EDIT: i can't suggest a way to dose as i don't need to be as careful with it as my tolerance is huge.. i can handle 10mg phenaz and 5mg kpin, or the other way around.. today i just took 10mg clonazepam and barely felt anything.
But just dose once and forget about key bumps, this benzo lasts long enough (whether you feel it or not it is still working) it's just you get used to the feeling and re-dose and that's what causes problems.. but like i said before don't flush it, it would be a total waste.. unless you really feel uncomfortable having that much in your possession.

EDIT2: sekio sorry for the disrespect, it's just there have been a lot of threads that i would like to add my .02 to (not today, but others) and they have been closed already by you, i have nothing personal against you.. just that little issue.

 

[sekio]

No problem. If anyone wants to add something to a closed thread (as long as it's constructive and you're not just throwing a final insult on a troll or pointless thread) they can feel free to PM a member of the moderating staff to discuss the issue.

 

[RobotRipping]

i used to keep hundreds of grams of it in my possession.. don't listen to this guy, just because he is a mod doesn't make him any better than a regular BLer.. as long as you can trust yourself, keep it all.. i have had 20 grams in a medicine bottle for about 6 months, i used to buy hundreds of grams at a time like i said, nothing bad ever happened to me with it.. the thing that made me quit my old job was i was too fucked up on pure carisoprodol powder to work for like 3 days so i had to quit, or work completely fucked up but i chose NOT to make my place of employment look like they hire drug addicts. And i was in a management position.

I've been watching this mod answer and then close threads without allowing others to answer the question/s since he got appointed Mod im surprised this one is still open! I guess i should have applied for it like i was asked to do.

EDIT: i can't suggest a way to dose as i don't need to be as careful with it as my tolerance is huge.. i can handle 10mg phenaz and 5mg kpin, or the other way around.. today i just took 10mg clonazepam and barely felt anything.
But just dose once and forget about key bumps, this benzo lasts long enough (whether you feel it or not it is still working) it's just you get used to the feeling and re-dose and that's what causes problems.. but like i said before don't flush it, it would be a total waste.. unless you really feel uncomfortable having that much in your possession.

hundreds of grams? I can't handle my benzo use, always end up blacking out and eating more benzos, adding alcohol and opiates in as well despite knowing the danger. I always end up losing grams of phenazepam when I am blacked out too. I usually get fired for making poor decisions at my jobs, not even for being high all the time.

edited: removed preaching lol; glad you could use it fine, but i don't agree with your advice.

for the op, use liquid dosing, 1mg/1ml, i fuck up when i make stronger solutions to get better effects. Don't redose, mix with other benzos, or other downers. I knew this fully well but in a benzo haze i just stop caring, i hope you don't run into any of the problems i did. As well, make sure you're not driving when you are high, your reaction time will be impaired. and be careful not to slip in the shower lol, used to happen to me so much on benzos.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

hundreds of grams? I can't handle my benzo use, always end up blacking out and eating more benzos, adding alcohol and opiates in as well despite knowing the danger. I always end up losing grams of phenazepam when I am blacked out too. I usually get fired for making poor decisions at my jobs, not even for being high all the time.

What happens if you someday run out? i had planned to never quit benzos again and I had 2-3 grams (cant even remember) or so and 6 more coming in the mail. Nothing ever came for some reason and i lost my stash while blacked out. Needless to say I ended up in withdrawals again, mostly due to stupidity. It just seems to me that benzo addiction is not sustainable, and I've really tried to make it work. All it took me was one slip up (which led to a few more) and i blacked out for a week, ate 60 .5 ativan, 30 or so zopiclone, ended up getting fired, smashed my head on my bathtub, had to have a tooth extracted, broke my toe, somehow broke my computer and every part inside of it. I can't remember anything from that week either. If you ever have to travel how do you plan on making that work? or if a natural disaster hits and you lose everything, you will be fucked and will likely die from the withdrawal.

i hope you never have to come off benzos, when I quit (forced to quit) the first time from really high doses after 6 months it was horrible. If I had an unlimited supply there's just no way I could keep it together, i'd probably abuse the first couple of grams and lose the rest somehow lol, i don't know how you can handle it.

for the op, use liquid dosing, 1mg/1ml, i fuck up when i make stronger solutions to get better effects. Don't redose, mix with other benzos, or other downers. I knew this fully well but in a benzo haze i just stop caring, i hope you don't run into any of the problems i did. As well, make sure you're not driving when you are high, your reaction time will be impaired. and be careful not to slip in the shower lol, used to happen to me so much on benzos.

i have been through w/d's.. i haven't been addicted to benzos for about a year now, i quit bupe and benzos at the same time, hows that for w/ds?
i only use occasionally, like my post says.. i USED to order that much and i never said i took it all, i can't say what i did with it without breaking BL guidelines.. but yes i have a high tolerance but no i am not addicted to it.

don't preach to me, please.

EDIT: and on that note.. im outtie BL, be back in a bit.

 

[muvolution]

HOOD, you are right on. If this guy wants to roll with 20+ grams of phanazepam, he can, but I would prepare only around 100mg at a time for use with liquid dosing, that way you aren't tempted to take wayyy too much.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I think there are good points to both sides of this issue. However, benzos are, well, known for their ability to cause people eat a shitload more drugs than they originally intended to that day. Or that week. I've been there with mixtures of clonazepam, lorazepam and alcohol. Don't remember days but know lots of drugs disappeared.

If you have the self-control and you know you have the self-control then go for it. I would lock the remaining 20.3g in a safe somewhere that's hard to open (and hard to find, so you'll be less likely to dig it up during the benzo haze) and then use liquid dosing for the 500mg at a time. [I'm talking 500mg total dosage units, not a dosage unit of 500mg. Please don't misread this. Only dose 1mg at a time, or less. Seriously.] Only have that 500mg even dosed out, make it hard for you to get to the powder, as that's where the problems start. I agree that putting dye (simple food coloring will work) in the container and a huge POISON sticker on the container is a good idea. Store it in a safe place as well.

 

[kborodinski]

phenazepam

i've very experienced in rc's, or at least i used to be. I stopped a few years ago, right before they banned buying 5-meo-dmt, 2c-b, 2c-i, etc.

Opiates got the best of me..


Fast forward a few years and i am clean from the h, nice job. I've been on suboxone 8mg daily (supposed to take 16, and sometimes i even skip days)
i am also prescribed 4mg clonazepam a month (2x2mg a day). I started eating all 60 of them in a week. Thus begun my research.

I did a lot of research and found a supplier willing to ship... Well, just about anything. I tested them out with 1 gram of 2c-i. It was spot on..

So i placed an order of 5 grams of phenazepam, she said for a little more she would double it and i could just owe her/them. Well, it was stuck in customs so she sent out another 10 grams.

They both arrived today. 20.8 grams of phenazepam... I did all the prep work, got the .0000 scales, gel tablets and a little machine to help me make up 50 at a time.

My problem is.... I am totally fucking scared to black out. I tried to put the smallest amount possible on the scare.. Came in at .0002, and it was just a few little spec of power. The wind blew it away from my hand as i reached for my cigarette. I took 2mg of the 2c-i and it was ultra amazing. Better than years back.

The state i am in sales everclear. Should i dose it that way? It's going to be impossible to cap up, plus i recall from years back when we all had pure diazepam power we will just keep key bumping, forgetting be bumped and bumped some more. The entire town was wasted from it. I believe someone still doesn't have their short term memory back.

What i am asking for here is advise. Best way to do it, good dose to start at, etc.

-coco

no vendor discussion means no vendor discussion

 

[Smutty]

The stuff I got must of sucked or I have fried my benzo receptors cause I can rail this shit with ni I'll effects

 

[DickTate]

Smutty: Then you are lucky you got scammed because if you took so much the amount could be railed, it would have been a massive overdose...

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Regarding the thread: the amounts of 20g+ (20-40k units) are just plain crazy in my opinion.

 

[Smutty]

Then I'm pissed.....no way I should of been doing the amounts I'm ingesting

 

[DickTate]

no way I should of been doing the amounts I'm ingesting

That is totally right Yeah, I know you meant being ripped off but indeed you should not ingest eyeballed amounts of such a potent and longlasting benzodiazepine. And thus, instead of being pissed that you got scammed, you should be glad not to stay in the hospital/jail/loony-bin for a while.

Do some (and I mean a lot) research on the compound. Phenazepam can be very evil if not used properly, and even then...
It's a chemical not to play around with laissez-faire style.

 

[kokaino]

Any benzo in pure powder form will be "evil" because all are relatively potent drugs ranging from 0.125 to 30 mg in therapeutic dosages. So having pure powder of any benzo can be very dangerous. Even if we go 30 mg - you know how small or little 30 mg is. You'd need a scale to be able to dose properly, otherwise you take a risk of blacking out or worse.

 

[DickTate]

kokaino: Of course other BZDs in pure form are dangerous too.
But the long half-life and other characteristics of Phenazepam like relatively little sedation and strong amnesic properties are pretty outstanding and more than counterproductive for recreational use. From my experience at least.

I just wanted to poke Smutty a little bit to the right direction from which these things are meant to be dealt with
Probably mutilating the english language here...

 

[kokaino]

I'd be most afraid of having pure powder triazolam, brotizolam, temazepam, midazolam, climazolam, nimetazepam, lormetazepam, loprazolam, flunitrazepam, remimazolam or nitrazepam than anything else. Imagine the shit you'd do on big doses on those benzos.

 

[Hiltoniano]

^ and "imagine" you would have to. Because at large doses you would never remember a thing, so all you could do is imagine the fucked up actions that were committed mid blackout