RCs Phenazepam

[foolsgold]

the only noid i would advice not trying this evil gear with the mam2201 its to close to black out stuff on its own with out the phenz .

glad to see its not just me then who has wiped out 6months of the life with this stuff do you find it painful i mean physically painful to try to remember the effects ?

 

[RobotRipping]

OK, thanks for all the warnings. I will be treating the stuff with the highest caution and respect....

Now, how about the positives, does it feel nice, in an anxiolytic, disinhibiting way, or in more of a hypnotic way ? Does it mix nicely with noids ?

yes it most certainly does. It is my favourite benzo after etizolam (which is a shit ton better btw). It's a disinhibiting sort of fun, not hypnotic at all but very very amnesic, etizolam is better IMO, no memory loss, same great feeling, motivation, disinhibition and a shorter half life so it doesn't' acculumate in your body. God i wish i were an etiz salesman/marketer.

Again, most people won't agree with this but for us few who like this fucked up state, it is one of the better ones. I've never felt so calm in my life other than being on etizolam or high dose diazepam.

As for mixing with noids, yes it does mix insanely well, as do most benzos. I've used jwh-210, 250 and some other ones like am-2201, all mix nicely. I would never do them without being on a benzo first. I'd personally just stick to cannabis, it's a nice mix anyway.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

^i actually received my order this week for 1 gram of phenazepam, and i weighed .40 mg's very carefully.it sat on .3 so long but i kept adding small sprinkles until i seen it bounce up to 4, flash almost back to 3, and sit on .40

so i took my 4 piles of 10mg and i split them in 4 equal piles (heres where i messed up) ive been up all dan and night on 2fma and 10mg hydrocodone. thing is, i forgot to split the piles of ten in half. i went after a full 10mg pile. its coming on slow and steady so far. its been about 2 hours. doesn anyone know the time frames the blackouts occur and any useful information for harm reduction ? im concerned eating 10mg may have some unknow consequences. thanks all you knowledgable pzam researchers who do do responsibly. if anyone can shed light on this would help ALOT of people. not many people afford the scales and dont make their solutions right, so ive found weighing it to work better than a solution, however i shouldnt have made the mistake i made earlier. im just wondering if i start blacking out, should i just go lay down, or am i better to stay awake, in case i never wake up ?? -aphex

dont ever fuck with research chemicals if you have no scale. if you can afford chemicals you can afford a scale. if you cannot afford a scale,not to be offensive, you dont need to.mess with unkown chemicals.

 

[Aphex747]

^my scale works fine.

 

[25I_am_so_wonderfu]

as said by a poster above this stuff is the devil and its the first time iv been glad a drug got banned and i really wonder what the fuck the vendor who first brought us the stuff was think of its just to unpredictable for general public to have there hands on i got hospitalised on the stuff and ended erasing most of the best part of the year when it first came out . the horror storeys are very real so please just becareful my drug buddy its not forgiving in a way shape of form

I dont think any drugs is inherantly evil. It's up to the user to practice responsibility with their choice of substances. Sorry you were unable to do that tho

 

[Jabberwocky]

251 - no. That's not the case with this drug, RC, whatever you want to call it. It's called a benzo, but its effects are completely different to what you'd expect from a normal benzodiazepene. Firstly, the fact that it takes 2-3 hours to take effect even when used sublingually is a start. The fact that even a TINY increment in dosage can cause a blackout (perhaps similar to triazolam, but at least you fucking wake up after 6 hours).

If anyone actually wants to take this stuff, dose it, then hide and lock the rest of your stuff away.

As for any positive effects - it had none. The comedown was beyond any other experience I've had before too. It made me suicidal, and I didn't even know what I had done for the past two weeks whilst I was withdrawing. I just don't understand this forsaken drug.

If you can get ahold of phenazepam then surely you can get ahold of etizolam? I seriously recommend you to switch to that rather than this crap.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

^^^yes, ive been using etizolam for about 18 months. I just want to try something different. It's also to test myself, that i can use it (phenazepam) responsibly.

Obviously i would skip my usual 5 mg of etiz a day, but with the long half life of phenaz how long after taking it would be safe to go back to etiz ? 12,24,36 hours ?

(i am physically and mentally addicted to Etiz.)

 

[foolsgold]

I don't think any drugs is inherently evil. It's up to the user to practice responsibility with their choice of substances. Sorry you were unable to do that tho

it had fuck all to do with using irresponsible its insanely powerful stuff n the slightest mistake causes problems now fuck off you little trolling wanker back to whatever rock you crawl out of loser

 

[RobotRipping]

phenazepam is not evil, that is ridiculous. You must be mindful of the long half life, the long come up and possibility for blackout if you mess up. If you have a great scale, great solvent and measure out liquid you are not going to run into that much trouble with it. OP seems to know this.

benzos are subjective, i love phenazepam so YMMV.

 

[Tryptamine*Dreamer]

I am very insensitive to benzos naturally. I could feel subtle effects from 1mg, which means most people without a tolerance would find that to be a good or strong dose. I personally needed 5-10mg for a good or strong dose and maybe a bit more for best results as a sleep aid. Again, I am insensitive and that could be an overdose for most people. The first time I tried a benzo was with diazepam IIRC and 20mg was very subtle, 50mg was a very moderate amount and 100mg was a good but not overly strong amount.

To measure your doses individually, you are going to need a really good scale or balance. You can't eyeball amounts of such small size. I would personally use like a 1mg/dose unit myself but most would probably want 0.5 or 0.25mg as the dose unit. If you have something that is very accurate to 1mg or less, you should be able to measure the 1mg and dissolve in a small amount of water or alcohol if it is soluble enough (even if it was like 1mg in 10ml, it would be soluble enough).

It might be possible to use something such as MPG (monopropylene glycol) as another person suggested to make a larger amount of solution. Just be careful, as others have posted of their problems with it. If you make s solution, you might want to use like 0.5mg/ml and estimate a 0.25mg dose by estimating 0.5ml. Definitely don't make it over 1mg/ml unless you KNOW FOR A FACT that you will not be affected as strongly as a normal person when you have no acquired tolerance from benzo/other sedative use. Also, I have ended up taking huge doses of benzos and other sedatives after taking a high dose and being unable to control myself or see the danger in repeatedly redosing. Once, I ended up unconscious for 2.5 days and slept most of the time for the first week or more. I was still quite intoxicated about 2 weeks later and it was close to a month before I felt that I was back to normal. This is from memory, though I have a trip report somewhere on my computer over that one.

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Hey man, I tried to send you a PM about something, but your inbox was full

 

[Jabberwocky]

phenazepam is not evil, that is ridiculous. You must be mindful of the long half life, the long come up and possibility for blackout if you mess up. If you have a great scale, great solvent and measure out liquid you are not going to run into that much trouble with it. OP seems to know this.

benzos are subjective, i love phenazepam so YMMV.

i think you're about the only one who has had a good experience with it or enjoys it to be honest. i've never heard anyone anywhere else saying they enjoyed it or had a good time on it. i guess it's very subjective on the individual taking it - but most people realy dislike this drug.

 

[cpuller]

phenazepam is not evil, that is ridiculous. You must be mindful of the long half life, the long come up and possibility for blackout if you mess up. If you have a great scale, great solvent and measure out liquid you are not going to run into that much trouble with it. OP seems to know this.

benzos are subjective, i love phenazepam so YMMV.

I dosed it succesfully a number of times and I didnt have the common overdose problems, the only thing was when I took too much in the evening I would still be on it during the next day but I never blacked out or did anything stupid.
My mood was still hightened due to anxiolysis, the problem with phenazepam is more the dependency that you form after a while.

In my memories these specific days are a bit hazy but I still remember the most important things, where I had been and so on.

 

[foolsgold]

phenazepam is not evil, that is ridiculous. You must be mindful of the long half life, the long come up and possibility for blackout if you mess up. If you have a great scale, great solvent and measure out liquid you are not going to run into that much trouble with it. OP seems to know this.

benzos are subjective, i love phenazepam so YMMV.

its not rediculous at all its evil i tell its the devil its self lol no i know what you mean i meant evil as it its so unforgiving when you make a mistake with it then it is the devil its self smacking you arse for being reckless

 

[RobotRipping]

^indeed, you wouldn't believe the havoc that phenazepam caused in my life yet i still love the high from it. But long acting benzos are not for me anymore, too much risk of blackout/weird behavior. Etizolam is much better in this regard.

Phenaz even at reasonable amounts will make your memory hazy after a while. I just can't remember much about it and during a binge i threw out 3g or took it or something, cause when i awoke from the blackout, my floor was flooded, sink was running and i had about 10mg before i entered my first official benzo withdrawal which was quickly followed by a psychotic break and a month long withdrawal. So do be careful, i'm quite smart about my drug use but phenaz always gets out of control for me.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

So this stuff is gonna be tricky to get out of the zip lock bag without leaving residue all over bag and ones fingers. Best idea ive had yet is to slice off a corner of the baggie where theres no phen, and then squirt pg 1-2ml at at time through the zip log opeening of the bag to wash the contents into my container. Hopeully with as minimal waste as poss.into my glass container. Gonna be using tweezerss to hold the bag, which will be resting inside my storage vessell.

To prevent loosing loads of powder on scales, im gonna weigh the bag first, and then after its been emptied; which should give me the amount of phen thats in the pg

(The worrying thing is i ordered 500mg of pv, and 100 mg of phen, but they both weigh in at very similar amounts. Either theyve beeen generous with 1, or stingy with another ? Would make life easier tho if i knew i had exactly 100mg of phen.

Anyone have better techs for getting the phen out the bag, with no wastage, or mess, that they'd like to share ?

Thanks to those who have experience in such thing and would like to comment.

Thanks.

 

[Hiltoniano]

I also ordered 500mg of pv recently, and if somehow we got the same supplier ( I shall say no more) then the pv is not lacking. At least mine wasn't, it was hooked up. On subject, be a million times more careful than you think you should be. Phen is danger in powdered form.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I should add for HRs sake that before i made my solution, i read another thread on the subject. This warned DO NOT TRUST THAT THE WEIGHT STATED BY THE VENDOR IS ACCURATE. I'm so glad i found that warning first; after weighing out 100 mg of Phen there was still loads left in the bag. (At a guess 50-100mg). So if i had just used the pg to clean out the bag I would have ended up with a way over concentrated liquid. I just dosed my first 1ml mg about 2 hours ago. Hard to judge if there's any effects yet.

I have never before been so careful in ensuring that everything is spot on when preparing a drug for consumption.

EDIT: A few hours later, and ive been concked out for a couple of hours. For those that say it has no hypnotic properties i dont agree. Also ive read its meant to be same strength as 1 etiz/10 diaz; i ended up taking a 2nd mg about 3 hours after the first. It seems far stronger than equivalent rates of etiz, maybe it just cos this hits different receptors that havent yet built up any tolerance.

 

[Aphex747]

ive been looking all over the web and different forums, and i cant find a definite answer on the peak plasma levels of phenazepam. i do mine sublingually, it dissolves quick, in your mouth. but ive heard people say they feel it ten minutes later, and other people saying at the 4 hour mark. which, would make sense, bc when i did 8-10 mg my first time on accident, i was in bed asleep like clockwork at 4 hours. but if any experienced phenazepam users can tell the peak plasma concentration, would be cool, i cant find it on the web. i mean if it does at 4 hours, how long after that for peak? its hard to find a duration. even a rough estimate of one. i took 4-5 mg of phenazepam a little over an hour ago, and im pretty sure the buzz i had is intensifying.

so im wondering, does phenazepam peak from 30 minutes to 4 hours?? anyone know?thanks if you do, its hard to gauge on this one since its kind of a background benzo. id just like to know when and how long to expect the best effects. like valium is from 30 minutes to 2 hours give or take, then you feel the slight happy state turn kinda dull.
i wont redose no matter what, i just want to know when to expect its best effects, so i actually know what this stuff is all about, and that will help me be safe with it, by better understanding. peak plasma is very important. thanks everyone -aphex

 

[Aphex747]

i think wikipedia pulled phenazepams 60 hour halflife out of its ass. i took 5 mg about 24 hours ago and fell asleep quick, around the 4 hour mark and felt very cozy until i did. however, i dont feel any of those effects today. i wouldnt be surprised if phenazepam actually had something closer to a 24 hour half life. and dont tell me im "just not feeling it, its there bullshit" i just took 1.5mg klonopin bc it is NOT there. i enjoy phenazepams buzz, but i dont believe it has a 60 hour half life. -aphex

 

[Aphex747]

the very best info i could find on phenazepam, for those who use it responsibly or are interested in it http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Phenazepam