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RCs Phenazepam

If one was to add 100 mg of phenazepam to 100 ml of Propylene glycol: Would the mixture need to be heated to get the Phen to dissolve ? Also how long would it keep for ? What would be the best way of storing it and it what sort of container ? Is it true that pharm grade Prop glyc is better than food grade ? Sorry for all the questions. If just some of them get answered i'd be highly appreciative. Thanks.
 
^i actually received my order this week for 1 gram of phenazepam, and i weighed .40 mg's very carefully.it sat on .3 so long but i kept adding small sprinkles until i seen it bounce up to 4, flash almost back to 3, and sit on .40

so i took my 4 piles of 10mg and i split them in 4 equal piles (heres where i messed up) ive been up all dan and night on 2fma and 10mg hydrocodone. thing is, i forgot to split the piles of ten in half. i went after a full 10mg pile. its coming on slow and steady so far. its been about 2 hours. doesn anyone know the time frames the blackouts occur and any useful information for harm reduction ? im concerned eating 10mg may have some unknow consequences. thanks all you knowledgable pzam researchers who do do responsibly. if anyone can shed light on this would help ALOT of people. not many people afford the scales and dont make their solutions right, so ive found weighing it to work better than a solution, however i shouldnt have made the mistake i made earlier. im just wondering if i start blacking out, should i just go lay down, or am i better to stay awake, in case i never wake up ?? -aphex
 
mydrugbuddy:

I had to heat a 50mg/50ml mixture up and stir it for a while until all particles dissolved. I kept this in a brown glass in my closet for about a year until it ran out and there was no recognizable degradation.
But I have no idea regarding the pharm/food grades. Bought mine in the pharmacy though.
 
Aphex747, If the dose of phenazepam makes you black out, you won't even know that it's happening until after it wears off & either you see that the time (or date) is way off what it should be and/or someone tells you that you've been acting funny for the past couple days. Personally for me, I wasn't even sure if the phenazepam was working at all until it was too late. In fact, disabling my memory was the only effect I ever got from it. I was told that I seemed pretty fucked up but I could have sworn that I was feeling no effects whatsoever except for slight anxiolysis when taken before a dentist appointment.

The one time I gave some to a friend to take before a court date she also said she felt absolutely nothing. When I saw her that night but she was obviously pretty impaired. After I left her at night after she passed out she slept (I assume she slept, no idea really) for 36 hours & called me 2 days later at 5am thinking that it was 5pm on the day she took the dose. When she told me about court the next day she kept saying "yesterday" but it was really 2 days earlier.

It seems to be a pretty regular thing with phenazepam to not feel any effects when in reality you're very fucked up. Combined with its long duration & the fact that you're memory is wrecked for several days, suffice to say phenazepam is not safe or worth experimenting with IMO. Hopefully you're OK. I wish I'd never touched the stuff myself.
 
i thinking this stuff was significantly cut. i took 10mg on an empty stomach and felt like i took to valiums until i passed out, shortly after, around noon. just woke up after 6 hours of sleep.
 
It should be the same thing but it depends. That's why unofficial nomenclature messes everything up sometimes.

There exist polymers of glycols so "monopropylene glycol" has "mono-" in the name to differentiate it from dipropylene glycol. Anyway, unless there's some purification performed a simple industrial method gives multiple products that can be collectively called propylene glycol (monopropylene glycol, dipropylene glycol, ... , polypropylene glycol).
 
adder said:
It should be the same thing but it depends. That's why unofficial nomenclature messes everything up sometimes.

There exist polymers of glycols so "monopropylene glycol" has "mono-" in the name to differentiate it from dipropylene glycol. Anyway, unless there's some purification performed a simple industrial method gives multiple products that can be collectively called propylene glycol (monopropylene glycol, dipropylene glycol, ... , polypropylene glycol).
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Thank you, that makes good sense. Now does anyone know if MPG is suitable for dissolving Phenazepam into it ? :?
 
Yes, this is the least toxic one out of propylene glycols. It is used in pharmaceutical industry to make solutions of e.g. benzodiazepines insoluble in water.
 
phenazepam is the devil.

sorry to put you off the stuff but honestly read this before you consider dosing that crap.

i had my valliums spiked with them as they were counterfeit and although my dose was probably super high its quite obvious how it happened. i took two and felt no real effects for about an hour, then took 5 more - felt no effects again for an hour. took 5 more and after 2 hours i started to feel the effects. the last thing i remember in a 2 week period after that was sitting outside a cinema with a friend of mine smoking a cigarette.

i then blacked out for two weeks.

during those two weeks i apparently was an emotional wreck, extremely sedated and did all sorts of crazy shit for instance:
i took a girl out for a meal, after forgetting my credit card in the machine about 2 hours before as i was buying a new phone (???)
i apparently bought the phone as i was worried my old one was "being watched by evil police men who want to steal my shoes".
i then proceeded to get my credit card back. through this time i attempted to buy several things, i headed to a pharmacy and insisted i wanted to purchase 16 (no more, no less) bottles of cough syrup. obviously they didn't serve me - but i had to be escorted out of the premises. after being rejected there i proceeded to pharmacy shop and scuffled up about 30 bottles of unopened cough syrup.
i decided to meet my drug dealer, who then proceeded to take me into his house and i smoked crack with him. i also was snorting a lot of stuff i don't know the name of.
then to top it all off, at a family meal i shat myself. yes. i shit myself in the restaurant. (this is the most horrifying and disturbing story i was told that happened while under the influence of this stuff.)

this all recollections by friends, family, police and yes my drug dealer.

through all of this my speech was slurred. everyone thought i was constantly drunk - but i never smelt of alcohol. people began to think i had a brain tumour.

how in fucking god's name this stuff is legal i don't know. the fact it didn't hit me/work for so long is what caused me to re-dose. i think regardless of it being tainted valium or just the powder you have to be so fucking careful with it. i've heard so many horror stories with phenazepam, never are any of them good.

get some normal benzos. honestly. save yourself the embarrassment and loss of weeks of your life in a state.

2 weeks of my life. the most un proud weeks of my life. i just thank god i can't fucking remember it.
 
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lol those are hilarious stories. I have too many as well, far too many. No matter my intention my phenazepam use gets out of control at some point (it builds in your system). Somehow i maintained an okay job (shit job) for 6 months while on phenazepam, blacked out and slurring my words have the time. And then i chose to leave lol. That was my stupid benzo mistake. There should be a warning with p-pam though as it will fuck up your life if abused, i don't remember about ~6 months of my life in total. I was a totally different person tho.
 
Shitting yourself in the restaurant is the funniest phenaz story I've read so far!!!
I lost 2 weeks to it once, apparently went to work everyday and maintained a relatively normal life but have no recollection of it at all, crazy!!
 
as said by a poster above this stuff is the devil and its the first time iv been glad a drug got banned and i really wonder what the fuck the vendor who first brought us the stuff was think of its just to unpredictable for general public to have there hands on i got hospitalised on the stuff and ended erasing most of the best part of the year when it first came out . the horror storeys are very real so please just becareful my drug buddy its not forgiving in a way shape of form :)
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Maybe i have the arrogance of the ignorant, but as i see it if you mix 100mg phenazepam into 100 ml PG, and then use a 2ml syringe, its so easy to draw up exactly 1 mg. Write it down, dose and time, and hopefully leave it at that !
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Theoretically this seems easy. The pronounciation is on the word "hopefully". I only had a 50mg solution and one evening I was so disinhibited that I decided to lick a seemingly very small amount from the tip of the knife I scraped the ziploc with....
Thinking if it is a little too much I would go to sleep but I blacked out over the next whole day, made an ass out of myself in various ways and nearly lost my girlfriend.

And I was pretty lucky with the outcomes. It could have been much worse. Just wanted to say that to this day I always thought this could only happen to those eyeballing idiots and not with a proper solution. How wrong I was.
 
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^indeed, in true junkie fashion after i measured out etizolam for solution, i licked the scale (after dissolving most of what was on it), waste not , want not (grandpa taught me that). The problem with phenaz is that your memory is gone and you're disinhibited. You could dose yourself 3-4 times easy at the start of a blackout which ends up with many of us not remembering weeks and months. The half life is so long that when i used it seemingly responsibly, twice a day, after a week, the phenazepam had built up in my system and i just blacked out anyway.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Now, how about the positives, does it feel nice, in an anxiolytic, disinhibiting way, or in more of a hypnotic way ? Does it mix nicely with noids ?
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That's another problem. For me it had the lowest recreational value of any Benzo I tried. The anxiolysis is pretty strong, comparable to Clonazepam or Lorazepam, but in comparison the sedating and relaxing effects are so weak that it leads to redosing because you want to achieve those.

It mixed well with cannabis though but I can't say anything about synthetic cannabinoids due to lacking experience.
 
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