phenazepam

[Pegasus]

loss of control and bad things can happen with pretty much any benzo, phenazepam isn't more likely to cause such experiences

When it is in a pure form, yes it is. That is what I was getting at.

 

[Pegasus]

i've tried it and can say that its not that impairing of a benzo. temazepam, flunitrazepam, and triazolam are all much more impairing(and recreational).

i'd say it's level of impairment is between lorazepam and alprazolam, but less euphoric and fun.

I wasn't talking from opinion... I tried to be clear that I was giving collected experiences. Many people who seek to use phenazepam as a legitimate anxiety medicine find it too impairing to use regularly. (Recreational use isn't what I was talking about... I was responding to the question about the anxiolytic effects. People are certainly split on the recreational effects.)

 

[StaySedated]

When it is in a pure form, yes it is. That is what I was getting at.

that goes with any benzo(or any other drug) in pure form, people eyeball doses and get too much. that doesn't make phenazepam itself any stronger than other benzos. its the way people are dosing that are cause unwanted large doses and resulting impairment.

any benzo that came in pure form would produce similar experiences where people dose incorrectly and become super impaired, and a stronger benzo that came in pure form with people using in that manner would cause even more reports of becoming too impaired.

its not phenazepam thats too strong, its the way people use it in pure form. i'm sure flunitrazepam or temazepam in pure form would show that phenazepam isn't as strong as its being made out to be.

 

[StaySedated]

I wasn't talking from opinion... I tried to be clear that I was giving collected experiences. Many people who seek to use phenazepam as a legitimate anxiety medicine find it too impairing to use regularly. (Recreational use isn't what I was talking about... I was responding to the question about the anxiolytic effects. People are certainly split on the recreational effects.)

then you were talking from other people's opinion. even though it wasn't your personal experience, it was someone else's which still makes it based on opinion.

however opinion based on multiple experiences is better and more solid info than individual opinion, so i can't say that the info you gave was bad.

 

[Pegasus]

however opinion based on multiple experiences is better and more solid info than individual opinion, so i can't say that the info you gave was bad.

Thanks! That's what I was going for!

 

[fjjf]

Is there any easy way to notice if the shit is cut?

 

[Pegasus]

^I'd measure out 1-2mg and dose (depending on tolerance). Be patient, since most of the horror stories with phenazepam come from people redosing too soon.