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(Phenazepam) -experienced with benzos, novice with phenazepam -Worst mistake of my li

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My phenazepam ordeal

I’ll never have the complete story on what happened that led to me getting myself 5150′d twice, convinced everyone I was practically brain dead, and resulted in being called profoundly damaged and incompetent by two different doctors, but here’s the story as I now know it. The pieces are coming together.

I have been experimenting with psychedelic drugs as therapeutic tools and as creativity enhancers. Some I really liked, like dextromethorphan and methoxetamine; others I didn’t care for and wouldn’t try again. We have been cautious and even bought a scale to confirm dosages.

I had just ordered some ayahuasca, a powerful psychedelic from the South America, and I was nervous about it, so I also ordered a Russian benzodiazepine called phenazepam (supposed to be a tranquilizer like Valium) that is not controlled here in the US. For the most part, the few things I tried were legal. The benzodiazepine was ordered in case the ayahuasca trip got out of control. When the benzodiazepine arrived, we tried to weigh it, but the scale was giving us a hard time, so we took a tiny bit each.

We think we must have used it all over the next two weeks, and neither of us has much of a memory of the events that took place.

The last thing I remember is trying to run a bus down to get him to stop for a transfer passenger, who, it turns out, didn’t want that particular bus line. I am told my feet were badly torn up from it.

I got a DUI but don’t remember it. I got taken in for psych evaluation (5150) and that apparently happened twice. I was put in two consecutive programs and spent most of the first one strapped to a gurney. Being in a hospital strapped to a gurney is the next thing I remember.

I know that at some point, an ambulance was summoned by neighbors; that was probably the first temporary evaluation commitment

During one of the take-down’s, they managed to break a collarbone and ignored me about it. I was discharged without treatment for it. They put me on an antibiotic that gave me a yeast infection and failed to provide treatment despite my requests. They put me on morphine for pain during most of the ordeal, and it turns out I have a curious reaction to that drug. It makes me delusional and makes my dreams so rich and detailed that they seemed real. I often didn’t know which world was real and which was delusional.

In one dream, my spouse told me she was going to undergo species reassignment surgery and become a bird of prey. She broke off our relationship, and I spent the day crying at nurses about it when I was awake. Georgie herself had to tell me it wasn’t true before I believed.

Clarity did not return to me until they discontinued the morphine. Georgie figured out the morphine connection. Who knows how long they’d have kept me if she hadn’t figured it out.

I had to return to the hospital to have them diagnose the broken collarbone which is still healing. They thought they saw a mass in the bone but later decided it was blood and released me with pain relievers, this time Vicodin.

I have a world of a mess to clean up, and it will take some time to get it done. I often feel scared and hopeless. The ayahuasca never arrived, and I’m not going to pursue it. I didn’t know how much of my brain I really injured, but I can do everything I could do before. My phone, a computer, and sudoku puzzles were the hardest to master again.

That’s the outline of the story and probably all I’ll ever know because I’m afraid to find out the rest from neighbor witnesses.

I had to write this out to let it go and move forward. I hope I can do that now.
 
Damn, I'm sorry you had to go thru that. Stay strong mang, things will get easier with time. Probably a good thing that the ayahuasca didn't arrive. I had my mind shredded by an aya experience, and it took me many years to mentally recover from it - it's not a recreational thing IMO. I love benzos but phenazepam sounds sketchy as fuck.
 
I have no idea how much I took over how long a period of time. Two weeks? My memory for the whole experience is virtually nonexistent. I don't even know if we finished it. I think I ordered 2 g to last a long, long time, and that's all I know.
 
Damn, I'm sorry you had to go thru that. Stay strong mang, things will get easier with time. Probably a good thing that the ayahuasca didn't arrive. I had my mind shredded by an aya experience, and it took me many years to mentally recover from it - it's not a recreational thing IMO. I love benzos but phenazepam sounds sketchy as fuck.

I love benzos too, but I do have a habit of taking more than I should. It has been a long time since I have had any benzos; I guess I was wrong when I assumed I'd have more control.

Yes, glad about the ayahuasca now, although it's possible it came and we gobbled it up too. Who knows?

The two chems that I enjoyed and feel safe using are DXM and methoxetamine, and I think I'll stick to those.

Glad I'm not dead or vegetative. I just love seeing that "incompetent, nursing home care" commentary from the docs. My family was convinced I was not really going to re-inhabit my brain again. Lost forever. Nightmare.
 
This is a well-written report!
Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience, but I hope you'll get better if you still have any post-effects.

Phenazepam is indeed tricky substance, and it requires careful dosing. I usually take no more than 150-200 mcg of this stuff few hours before going to bed, and if I take ~1 mg I feel sleepy and tired the next day.
 
I had similar experience as far as the 5150 and the vivid dreams that I thought were real from withdrawal from Xanax. I'm sorry you had to go through this brother. It will get better. PM me if you want.
 
Sorry to hear about that man.
I tell most people to avoid phenazepam at all costs.

I just lost a job because of the stuff (luckily I just got a new one).
But I've woken up in jail cells on the stuff, woken up nake, you name it.

Its a bad one, if not used responsibly (which is extremely hard).

Take care my friend,
-ekt
 
its the fact its a powder which is a problem, how many people would find it easy to hold back if the had alprazolam powder/etizolam powder.

benzo's are addictive and sometimes bingeable but adding a powder to the mix makes this behaviour a much more likely occurence
 
Unreal! This stuff, in my humble opinion, is way too hazardous to be taking recreationally, if at all.


You think it might just be the form it's most available in that's the culprit?

I mean, I've heard similar stories from powdered alprazolam. Powdered valium seems a bit harder to abuse and blackout on on account of it's not being nearly as potent. I think if pills were available in the form of .1mg, .25mg, etc. these kinds of cases of outright amnesiac madness might be a rarity.

Still a shame that the only legal benzo left isn't available in a safer preparation.
 
its the fact its a powder which is a problem, how many people would find it easy to hold back if the had alprazolam powder/etizolam powder.

benzo's are addictive and sometimes bingeable but adding a powder to the mix makes this behaviour a much more likely occurence

Not only the powder, but also the half-life.

It stacks up very quickly.
 
You think it might just be the form it's most available in that's the culprit?

I mean, I've heard similar stories from powdered alprazolam. Powdered valium seems a bit harder to abuse and blackout on on account of it's not being nearly as potent. I think if pills were available in the form of .1mg, .25mg, etc. these kinds of cases of outright amnesiac madness might be a rarity.

Still a shame that the only legal benzo left isn't available in a safer preparation.

Etizolam is legal and is offered in pills by some vendors... so if you really want a safer legal benzo, you can vie for that. It's a bit pricey though and pretty hard to find, if it's even legit.

Nice TR, must have been hard to write dude! Thanks for the stories... I have some phenazepam coming my way and I am going to be very cautious about it. Probably preload all the doses onto something (I'm doing liquid to avoid something like this) and keep 'em somewhere lockable so it's not easy to access in a benzo stupor! Hopefully that prevents something like this from happening to me!
 
Not only the powder, but also the half-life.

It stacks up very quickly.

yeah thats the only positive about xanax (or as i call it slag drug-it makes me slutty and reckless).

i prefer etizolam and zopiclone as they are both out of you within a day. the long half life of valium is the main thing i dont like about it and phenazepam is worse from what i hear
 
I'm sorry you had to experience this. But you can look on the bright side, nothing serious happened. DUI is the shittiest thing but you didn't kill anyone and you are alive. I know someone who under the influence killed a person and got 10 years while just having had a baby. The baby is now 7 or something and the person is still in jail. Consider yourself lucky.

I also had a run in myself this weekend. With xanax thou so it was short lived as I ate all 26mgs I had fast. So stupid. I could have died. I don't remember a whole day. Slept all next day then woke up memorial day and started asking questions of my family. Front window in my car is broken, I kicked it out with my legs and I guess I was going from unconscious to crazy for the whole day.
 
I kinda want to order some of this stuff and give it a try....but I don't have a scale....and I haven't heard one good thing about it yet.....ehh, fuck it.
 
^ I recommend you to get scales, there are cheap 0.001 g scales on the market. You can get one for just 20 bucks.

And even you have such scales, liquid measuring is highly advised, because phenazepam is quite potent stuff, 3 mg will be an overkill. So just dissolve a known amount of powder in a known amount of water, and then do simple math for precise measurements.
 
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