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I took between 20 and 40mg (threshold dose is 30mg so I hear) You can not take too much or you will be very uncomfortable. I found it to be a very interesting compound, although it had more evident negative side effects than MDxx, also a little milder for those of us who have worn our seratonin out. Definately seratonin release or inhibition of re-uptake. Mix you *i know....* favorite SSRI with ecstasy with little negative effects that can be combatted with most benzos which should be safe to take in conjunction with because they work on different areas on the brain. I assume taking those would dull the experience a bit which may be preferable to some of us. This is a rare report as i have read, and I have been waiting a couple years to try this one specifically because the others do not interest me based on reading alone. Do not discount this one. The non addictive properties are also a benefit. This is the first drug of this class I have experimented with and noticed definite pupil dialation. Dont think your weight matters. DONT DOSE HIGH. Also if you redose you experience the same unpleasent side effects before you transition to an elevated state of mind. I think I would give it a go again perhaps someday. Peace

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Thanks for the info. If you ever get a chance, could you elaborate on the effects somewhat? Like how did it feel, did you get any visual distortions, did it make you think differently? Etc.
 
it feels similar to mdma in terms of the uncomfortable come up, maybe i am thinking of MDA moreso. Then you hit that mellow level with jaw clenches and rushes throuought the body. tracers (trails) are pronounced. your eyes dialate and you have that trippy (visual and mind) but not as pronounced as the schedule 1 chems. Pm me if you care to know more and dont over do the dose. i would not go above 30mg or all the negative aspects are amplified. or so i hear.
 
oh, I thought you were talking about poly-Furylpiperidinylpiperidine:)

anyway this sounds like everyother typical piperazine report, u want it to feel like exstacy because some scientists along time ago said that these compounds sub for X in rats and started a whole thing, I find this totally ridiculous, how so many people actually buy into this. let's get it straight once and for all, piperazines are nothing like X.<-period This is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact(not trying to make anyone feel stupid here so nothing further needs to be said)
 
oh and the negligable positive fx u focused on will very quickly vanish the more u take it and the negative will intensify greatly aswell. There is a reason this stuff is dirt cheap and it's not cuz they sell so much of it they can afford it because it's always been this cheap and it not like some secret obviously
 
^^ Some people apparently get good effects from them. I don't think many people think it's just like MDMA. Personally, I get crappy effects from them. But if someone enjoys it, then I don't see a problem with them using it. I don't think the author of this report claimed it was just like ecstacy anyway.
 
^yeah, Xorkoth is right. And the author was not saying this was and XTC sub. He was just trying to explain it the best he could...even though his TR SUCKED :).... (you'll thank me later)..... aparently it's not "just some shitty MDMA sub" as you can (not your Xorkoth), because piperazines are fully legal in new zealand or something like that....they sell them everywhere over there somewhere, and are really popular.... different strokes for different folks...go figure.. Maybe I'm tired....maybe the alcohol is wearing off.... in any case.... thanks for the TR robo.
 
it just has so little affinity for 2b and so much for more 1a (if I'm remembering correctly!) that you're not going to get visuals (or only the most threshold visuals).

A sedative psychedelic does sound quite good to me though.
 
Dextermeth: "because piperazines are fully legal in new zealand or something like that"

Not so anymore; BZP, TFMPP, MeOPP, mCPP, MBZP and pFPP were all made Class C in April this year (after a long time mind you - the politicians finally did it for political point scoring to appease certain groups in society).
 
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