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pFPP (30mg, 60mg and 90mg)- Inexperienced - trip reports

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I have now experimented with 30mg, 60mg and 90mg doses of pFPP.

Generally I find it hits you within 30-45minutes on an empty stomach, I ate a full pizza (and drank coke) after dosing 90mg I felt a little weird in the stomach but i didn’t throw it up. Taking it on a full stomach really delays the onset of pFPP I found that it takes upto 2 hours to have any affect then a further 1 to 2 hours to feel the full effects. pFPP lasts quite a long time, if you take it at 8pm I find you will be up till the early hours of the morning. Your pupils will be dilated for quite some time as well. All my doses were taken in gelcaps measured out using a 0.001g scale. I am male, 19-20 and weigh about 70kgs.

I found at 30mg you were tripping, colours seemed a little off and at some points you swear some things were moving. It's effects are quite subtle. You find things funnier. I had some very distinct CEVs and others not quite so distinct, OEVs are quite subtle while you do see them you’re not sure if it's placebo or not. It would be quite safe to drive on 30mg I believe. You can also talk to people in a sober manner... be aware that your pupils will be fully dilated though. Lasted about 8 hours.

60mg I was experiencing much stronger visual things, the trip ended 10 hours after I had taken it. I can't remember too much from this trip, it felt like everything was stronger than the 30mg trip. pFPP is different every time you do it I find... not like MDA where the CEVs seem to be quite similar in effect and timing

90mg was awesome, your body temp regulation is pretty whack and your head feels hot, this is something I am concerned about especially with mixing other drugs that affect body temp, I have not tried mixing with MDMA yet. But things in my room looked tiny especially my shelf I was amazed when I looked at it, things were moving breathing and warping around. When you walk around you feel like your sort of drunk.... things look strange when you walk past them....I was talking on msn and I was quite out of it, i got into laughing fits over a few things, namely when i was talking to a friend and what he would do if his parents found some weed, he said he would just get a bong and walk around the house saying I dont give a fuck... had me in stiches for ages. I found a lot of things quite hilarious. I watched some TV shows on Space on the discovery channel and then proceeded to play with Google Maps Mars... haha yeah... trip ended 12 hours after I had taken it

Now people say it is similar to Acid but I have not done Acid before so I cannot make the comparison. The mornings after I had no hang over at all. The downsides of this drug are definitely the body temperature regulation you get hot then cold... All of my experiences were in my room at home on the computer, I will be taking 90mg out tonight and also mixing with MDMA which I have not done before and is something I would do so carefully....

Edit: I forgot to add that I would describe this as not adictive at all, you really do not want to do it again near the end of the trip. It is not as fun as MDMA. The hot head and temp regulation is what you tend to remember when you think back. Personally I don't want to continue doing pFPP but it something worth doing once I believe! And I quite enjoy being one of the few to post trip reports on the substance!

Anyway I thought it was essential to post this since there are so few trip reports for pFPP
 
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Thanks for the write up:) I have been scavinging for any info on this obscure (at least it used to be) substance and not much info is out there to find. When you try some combos or higher doses, please post them here or in a follow up thread.
 
Sounds a bit more like mcPP thab BZP.

Going to bother giving any other different piperazines a go?
 
Splatt said:
Sounds a bit more like mcPP thab BZP.

Going to bother giving any other different piperazines a go?

Not going to bother with mCPP... MEOPP sounds good though!
 
I just got home, pFPP can be mixed with MDMA safely...

But 90mg of pFPP on its own was horrible.... I really did not enjoy it at the nightclubs I went to

I need to crash though
 
mCPP and meOPP are fine in a club environment -- at home by themselves they'll bore you to death. As for pFPP, I haven't tried it yet -- I have access to it but I won't be giving it or any other piperazines a go for a long time. I've had too many average, boring, and downright weird experiences with them to counterbalance the couple really awesome experiences.
 
I agree Indelibleface. It's not for me I have decided!

Anyway refering back to my previous post about my night out on 90mg, I now feel able to talk about it (I really just didn't want to think about it until now) it was pretty horrible... The body temp regulation, the really hot head (which is constant), the really weird thought path (wasn't mind opening), the feeling that you were going insane (like i kept saying things over and over in my head or saying things people said to me over and over) I felt disconnected (more than usual lol) like i wasnt even in the night clubs, i couldnt go near dance floors as the music was just way to loud.

All I felt like doing was staying still and saying i'm too fucked to do anything. I did see some weird OEV + CEVs which were pretty cool but i feel they were out weighed by the negatives.

My friends are having great fun they tell me with 60mg doses... They also agreed 90mg is too much to have when out (as they have tried it as well), so I would be careful with doses above 60mg.

It was nice to say I've tried it though, GL to all who wish to try pFPP!
 
Hello I wanted to follow up on this thread 6~ months later.

I have since experimented with other psychadelic drugs namely;

LSD, LSA, 2c-b, weed, DMT ... etc

Simply put pFPP is not really that enjoyable (doesn't make you feel good etc) it does not offer mind expansion or clarity and is really downright a pretty bad chemical

It has the slightest resemblance to LSD in the fact there is a little bit of mind fuck when you are peaking.

If you are going to experiment with semi-legal substances other drugs like LSA are much better.

Stay safe
 
Oh, people want information on pFPP do they?
I've taken it a fair few times.
I find the best dose to be in the 50-60 milligram range, taken orally in a gel-cap.

The thing about this substance that interests me the most is it's mild SERT inhibition, which i've deliberately exploited -
I insufflated a clean ecstasy pill (MDMA only) and then when that was peaking, took 50mg pFPP and 150mg 5-HTP, to purposefully induce a situation where it's SERT inhibition would cause a buildup and sustained high level of 5-HT (being careful to avoid Serotonin Syndrome, of course!!!).

Basically, I rolled harder and harder every hour that went past. I did overdo it with the pFPP just by the smallest amount though I think, it was a little too effective, I ended up needing sedation with a Seroquel at about T+5hrs because I was getting too messy (couldn't see straight from the nystagmus). I had taken some G about an hour prior to this, it was the addition of the G that caused the excessive messiness. I wasn't in any *danger* - it was just decided that it was a good time to end the day is all, pretty much. (Was only 2 mL of GBL, so clearly not CAUSED by the G alone, the synergism did it)
No comedown at all the days after, which is unsurprising seeing as the pFPP would have prevented the majority of the 5-HT depletion which otherwise occurs after MDMA use.

Other than this, yeah pFPP gives me visuals much like a low dose of mushrooms gives me. I don't like it's effects on body temperature regulation though, the hot+cold flushes get annoying. Also, I find it has a tendency to cause slight anxiety. For this reason I like it in combinations, not by itself.
 
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