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Perth Pills - 10/12/00

I do have to say that I seriously doubt it was MDA. MDA has a very trippy, hallucinogenic quality and it lasts for 10-12 hours or so. I mean, did you see shit?
Cuz if you didn't it was most likely not MDA. It could have been MDMA mixed with something else. It could have been MDEA mixed with something else. There are plenty of adulterants which can cause a speedy effect.
Just my observations anyway
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I'm not really sure why people can't decide what to get, these 8's whatever they are sound really nice, my problem isn't deciding, it's finding them
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heeheehee just to add to the confusion:
my friend was smacked out one minute then saying "this is too slow for me (Hutcho's oldskool hardcore set at VIP) I'm going to Rise" (*shrug* don't ask, just know I didn't follow him there
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At times he even wanted to go dance to hardcore trance tunes whilst looking very smacked out. I thought it was just him. But hence my thoughts of mdma and something else. Could be mdea and something else. But the pill didn't keep him up for that lond, and he had a good sleep and felt fine the next day, not like he is with amphets.
He experienced no hallucinations.
 
i'm with commuter here.. can we get some kind of clarity to all this 8 ball talk?
this is all very important what with the real millenium and all coming up..
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from what has been said there are
beige and white ones. (B + W)
the reports are mostly from people who didn't know there were two types and hence just said they were 8 balls. This may be a lesson in "if you are going to make a report be as descriptive as possible" so as to avoid this kind of confusion
Q's -
jazzman - "MDMA possibility" W or B?
goosh - "MDEA possibility" W or B?
remmy - "MDMA possibility" W or B?
sacred - "MDA possibility" W or B?
biscuit - you obviously have tested both so can you tell us if they are exactly the same sizes? and are the differences in colour very distinct?
the reason i ask is that i have had pills go beige/off white on me (hammers) for no apparent reason except perhaps a bit of moisture going into the baggy. This is just a theory but perhaps they are the same pills with one batch a bit worse for wear on the way to perth? Or the whole batch is badly mixed and there are gradients of colour ranging from white to beige. just ideas.
beige: smacky? (possibly MDEA + adulterant)
according to biscuit test stronger than W which may be evidence of MDEA which has a higher threshold dose.
white: dancy? (possibly MDMA or MDA + adulterant)
test weaker than B according to biscuit which may have to do with binders or strength.
theories:
the binder theory: some kind of binder which is making the white pill take ages (hour or two) to breakdown and absorb resulting in the length of roll + gradual increases in intensity (ean) and finger pointing at MDA (sacred).
could be MDA but i think every report would have a comment on the duration if that was the case.
there may be some speed in them as well. Maybe they are both just speed and MDEA? who knows.
please can we have more detailed reports on these. thanks!
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"The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded" (1991) Shulgin on his experience with ecstasy.
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phwoar two pages already!
Can we keep this one going for a little while tho? There's heaps of info here regarding these 8balls... all vague and inconclusive... but all here.
Unless anyone can clear it up in a new thread?
 
The one I took was white, not beige.
Definately no visuals and not smacky or trippy in any way. Very clean but mild dosage. Also slept fine on it, no speedy feeling.
Im thinking weak MDMA.
 
I agree; i prob contributed to some confusion; when i probably should have shut up coz i really dont have much on the subjective effects.
Robo:
The colour difference is very obvious; esp when the pills r side by side.
I doubt its discolouration, the beige pills r pressed better, and look better, than the white ones.
The bevel and logo are more defined; the pill is harder.
The testing situation: yes i felt the beige were stronger looking at the test but the difference was not that great.
I thought i would do a little research. I looked at the pills tested by dancesafe which tested as ONLY MDA; and then crossed referenced them to pill reports for some subjective accounts.
Here is what MDA is like:
OMNI:
ROLLED EXTREMELY HARD FOR 4 1/2 HOURS AND ONLY TOOK ONE AND I USUALLY HAVE TO TAKE ATLEAST 3 TO ROLL THAT LONG EZ Test Result: Suspected Contents: MDMA - MDMA (Ecstasy)
ZORRO:
9 Comments: This pill had a mellow effect, yet a good roll. 30 minutes after chewing this nasty bastard I was feeling REAL good! View distortion was somewhat trippy. Definately a better roll than the average. EZ Test Result: Change in color to black/purple instantly. Suspected Contents: MDMA - MDMA (Ecstasy)
I must say that these are definitly mda. I am glad I picked up bunch of these when I did. I peak for 7 hours when only taking 1.5 pills. I normally would have to take a good 3 or 4 to trip this long. Only thing is that I am irritable and nasty as hell during the comedown and the day after. But the high is unbelievable. Definitly recomend trying these.
I was forewarned about these being strong..and one kicked my ass!! I rolled real good for about 6hrs or so. This pill was big and very loose pressed..I had some visuals, but nothing too overwhelming which was good because that's not my thing. This pill was very social for me and very dancy...great time!!
XXX:
This was DEFINATELY my best roll ever. not only did i peak for 7-8 hours off of one xXx and one mercedes...but it was maaad speedy..awesome visuals..and i never stopped dancing
Nice, took almost a hour to come up on. MAD jaw clenching! Lots of happy and good times.. not as much empthy however. Lasted about 5 hours total. Plenty of energy, but not "Speedy" easy comedown. Feel fine on the day after!
Sorry about the length but i thought defining MDA better would be of some help.
So as darkblade said, i think u would know if u had MDA. Though maybe a low dose would not be overly long, or give you visuals.
My guess atm, but again perhaps i should shut it until i see it first hand; the white 8s r weak MDMA; the beige who knows; perhaps stronger MDMA/EA.
Although i wouldnt have thought the two would be different chemically; just strength wise.
 
reason i felt there was adulterants was probably because the one 8ball myself and friends got was dealt with like this:
person on a peachy mottorola had a little nibble
another person on nothing beforehand had the rest. the nibble was about a fifth of the pill.
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mk so the nibble took away the extreme pureness of the motoroll. and my description of the effects of the 8ball come from observing my friend... hence are a bit shady but i know my friends and i find that i can tell pretty closely what a pill is like by observing its effects.
 
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If MDA is so damn good, with great length and wicked visuals, then why don't we see more of it?? I mean most of the people that were quoted by Buiscuit above were saying that it was their best roll ever!!
Nick
 
Bloody hell eh..
I say we all jump in a rolls royce and drive to the city.
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Teknoscape have pulled the XTC testing page/board from their site apparently as police have a problem with it??
note: i have not said whether this is a good or bad thing.
The 8-balls have gotten so confusing that people r now talking about dropping one just to test it out. Hopefully some info might have come out of last night, or at least after blackout this saturday.
 
Looks like Jazzman has a new thread going, want to lock this one when you're done with it pope?
 
Well, i'm dumbfounded to say the least. I've just got a few things to add.
8-Balls - they're a combo of MDMA and Speed. My girl and some friends had these last weekend, and they were getting all the effects that they would from speed/whizz and a few got the loved up feeling, while others didn't. A good pill.
Blue 69s - Speed with a mild trip in it. Alright if its all you can get, but be careful.
White 69s - VERY weak speed. avoid.
 
Cheers BT, appreciate you hanging back.
The 8balls are still confusing, but we have to keep all info together... and I'm sure this can be cleared up in the new thread
 
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