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Personality Test

What is your Meyers-Briggs Type?

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MDAO said:
What I want to know is, why is the OCEAN (a.k.a. Big Five) personality test fairly well accepted by the scientific community, but not the Myers-Briggs? Sure, it adds one more independent variable -- neuroticism. But the other four are basically the same: Openness = sensing/intuitive, Conscientiousness = perceiving/judging, Extroversion = E/I, and Agreeability = feeling/thinking, more or less.
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I have never thought of this variable mapping, but it makes a great deal of sense. I believe that the big five is better accepted as a sort of knee-jerk reaction, as the big-five is empirically derived, from terms commonly used to describe people in English, while the Meyers-Briggs comes from Jung's theory of the constitution of the psyche.

Spunky Skunk said:
Therefore, when it scores your 72 questions, it gives you a description of your "type" so loose that it really could describe anybody.
The conclusion to your test results may be furtherly enforced in your mind if you like what it says about you.
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Well, I'm not sure if adding more questions to the test would help, particularly if the questions that are there point reliably to stable aspects of behavior. I would also look at a few profiles...the types are actually pretty specific. However, you are quite correct in that the Meyers-Briggs, and really most all personality theory, has a great deal of trouble dealing with situational variance in behavior and self-perception.

ebola
 
INFJ

INFJs, making up an estimated 1% of all people, are the most rare type (males even more so). They are introspective, caring, sensitive, gentle and complex people that strive for peace and derive satisfaction from helping others. INFJs are highly intuitive, empathetic and dedicated listeners. These traits tend to act as a "tell me what's wrong" sign on their forehead, hence the nicknames Confidant, Counselor or Empath. INFJs are intensely private and deeply committed to their beliefs.

"INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types."
- Portrait of an INFJ (The Personality Page)

"INFJs enjoy a greater clarity of perception of inner, unconscious processes than all but their INTJ cousins. Just as SP types commune with the object and "live in the here and now" of the physical world, INFJs readily grasp the hidden psychological stimuli behind the more observable dynamics of behavior and affect."
- INFJ Profile (TypeLogic)

"creative, smart, focus on fantasy more than reality, attracted to sad things, fears doing the wrong thing, observer, avoidant..."
- INFJ Jung Type Descriptions (similarminds.com)

"...desire to contribute to the welfare of others and genuinely enjoy helping their companions. Although Counsleors tend to be private, sensitive people, and are not generally visible leaders, they nevertheless work quite intensely with those close to them, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes..."
- The Portrait of the Counselor Idealist (Keirsey)

"INFJs tend to be devoted to what they believe in and seek work where their needs, values, and ideals can be deeply engaged. They move on the wave of their inspirations and are determined to see that their values are worked out in their lives. They will work toward their goals individually and, when needed, will put together a team of other highly dedicated people like themselves."
- INFJ - The Mystic (Lifexplore)
 
the Champion (ENFP)

Like the other Idealists, Champions are rather rare, say two or three percent of the population, but even more than the others they consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life. Champions have a wide range and variety of emotions, and a great passion for novelty. They see life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil, and they want to experience all the meaningful events and fascinating people in the world. The most outgoing of the Idealists, Champions often can't wait to tell others of their extraordinary experiences. Champions can be tireless in talking with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out. And usually this is not simple storytelling; Champions often speak (or write) in the hope of revealing some truth about human experience, or of motivating others with their powerful convictions. Their strong drive to speak out on issues and events, along with their boundless enthusiasm and natural talent with language, makes them the most vivacious and inspiring of all the types.

Fiercely individualistic, Champions strive toward a kind of personal authenticity, and this intention always to be themselves is usually quite attractive to others. At the same time, Champions have outstanding intuitive powers and can tell what is going on inside of others, reading hidden emotions and giving special significance to words or actions. In fact, Champions are constantly scanning the social environment, and no intriguing character or silent motive is likely to escape their attention. Far more than the other Idealists, Champions are keen and probing observers of the people around them, and are capable of intense concentration on another individual. Their attention is rarely passive or casual. On the contrary, Champions tend to be extra sensitive and alert, always ready for emergencies, always on the lookout for what's possible.

Champions are good with people and usually have a wide range of personal relationships. They are warm and full of energy with their friends. They are likable and at ease with colleagues, and handle their employees or students with great skill. They are good in public and on the telephone, and are so spontaneous and dramatic that others love to be in their company. Champions are positive, exuberant people, and often their confidence in the goodness of life and of human nature makes good things happen.
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I guess that is right. sounds similar but they are missing alot of parts of it. I want to kno wat they say about the anger of this person becuz underneath all that is a more intense angry current that can snap at any minute. they put all the shit about how this type acts around people but not about their own inner struggle. i woudl want to kno more about this stuff.
 
^ I'm ENFP too. I find we're a scary bunch when we flip, because like the writeup said, once we open our mouths about something, it's hard to stop talking. We don't keep it all inside the way INFPs do.
 
>>ENTJ!!! I am a leader of the masses!>>

To those who refuse to be led, this type is known as the "dictatorial asshole".
;)
The INTJs think that they have come up with a better plan, the INTPs think that your efforts are fraught with theoretical inconsistencies, and the INFPs have found your efforts to be ethically dubious.
;)
 
ebola? said:
I will note, however, that internally anchored principles are far better than none, and I haven't yet found an external source for them.
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ENTJ's principle's are designed to bring different personalities together in the most productive way. We have to be flexible so as not to alienate minorities...who may one day form a resistance movement that undermines our precious creation and will have to be crushed with extreme prejudice... :)
 
It's said that the middle two dimensions are the most important, as they determine the....medium of thought...or at least the classes of items of interest.

For instance, I, an INTP, have a tough time making sensation oriented material have sense and significance for me. For me, it's all a buncha shit that happened until there are some overarching principles.

I've also found that I learn backwards from a lot of people. I prefer to look at the relevant axioms/laws/concepts/etc., build a system, and then look at how it'd work in motion. Oh, and I can then apply to specific examples, but it usually seems pointless.

So I hear that most people like to accumulate some details and build upwards instead....curious.

ebola
 
New genitalia:
Well put...this is the bright side of the type.
But then again, productive to which ends? You still would need a source of principles.
 
That source being of the people around us, just like everyone else whether they know it or not. :)
 
i'm ISTJ and according to the poll i'm the only one so far
it's strangely accurate besides the whole "likes to go to school functions, church, childrens sports..etc" ...fuck that


ISTJs are often called inspectors. They have a keen sense of right and wrong, especially in their area of interest and/or responsibility. They are noted for devotion to duty. Punctuality is a watchword of the ISTJ. The secretary, clerk, or business(wo)man by whom others set their clocks is likely to be an ISTJ.

As do other Introverted Thinkers, ISTJs often give the initial impression of being aloof and perhaps somewhat cold. Effusive expression of emotional warmth is not something that ISTJs do without considerable energy loss.

ISTJs are most at home with "just the facts, Ma'am." They seem to perform at highest efficiency when employing a step-by-step approach. Once a new procedure has proven itself (i.e., has been shown "to work,") the ISTJ can be depended upon to carry it through, even at the expense of their own health.

ISTJs are easily frustrated by the inconsistencies of others, especially when the second parties don't keep their commitments. But they usually keep their feelings to themselves unless they are asked. And when asked, they don't mince words. Truth wins out over tact. The grim determination of the ISTJ vindicates itself in officiation of sports events, judiciary functions, or an other situation which requires making tough calls and sticking to them.

The one word that best describes Inspectors is superdependable. Whether at home or at work, Inspectors are extraordinarily persevering and dutiful, particularly when it comes to keeping an eye on the people and products they are responsible for. In their quiet way, Inspectors see to it that rules are followed, laws are respected, and standards are upheld.

Inspectors (as much as ten percent of the general population) are the true guardians of institutions. They are patient with their work and with the procedures within an institution, although not always with the unauthorized behavior of some people in that institution. Responsible to the core, Inspectors like it when people know their duties, follow the guidelines, and operate within the rules. For their part, Inspectors will see to it that goods are examined and schedules are kept, that resources will be up to standards and delivered when and where they are supposed to be. And they would prefer that everyone be this dependable. Inspectors can be hard-nosed about the need for following the rules in the workplace, and do not hesitate to report irregularities to the proper authorities. Because of this they are often misjudged as being hard-hearted, or as having ice in their veins, for people fail to see their good intentions and their vulnerability to criticism. Also, because Inspectors usually make their inspections without much flourish or fanfare, the dedication they bring to their work can go unnoticed and unappreciated.

While not as talkative as Supervisor Guardians [ESTJs], Inspectors are still highly sociable, and are likely to be involved in community service organizations, such as Sunday School, Little League, or Boy and Girl Scouting, that transmit traditional values to the young. Like all Guardians, Inspectors hold dear their family social ceremonies-weddings, birthdays, and anniversaries - although they tend to be shy if the occasion becomes too large or too public. Generally speaking, Inspectors are not comfortable with anything that gets too fancy. Their words tend to be plain and down-to-earth, not showy or high-flown; their clothes are often simple and conservative rather than of the latest fashion; and their home and work environments are usually neat, orderly, and traditional, rather than trendy or ostentatious. As for personal property, they usually choose standard items over models loaded with features, and they often try to find classics and antiques - Inspectors prefer the old-fashioned to the newfangled every time.
 
INTP...Apparently 'Architects' are the majority of test-takers.

I rather enjoyed the explanation and knowing that I share a personality like that of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein, and Charles Darwin.

From the explanation:

Architects need not be thought of as only interested in drawing blueprints for buildings or roads or bridges. They are the master designers of all kinds of theoretical systems, including school curricula, corporate strategies, and new technologies. For Architects, the world exists primarily to be analyzed, understood, explained - and re-designed. External reality in itself is unimportant, little more than raw material to be organized into structural models. What is important for Architects is that they grasp fundamental principles and natural laws, and that their designs are elegant, that is, efficient and coherent.

Architects are rare - maybe one percent of the population - and show the greatest precision in thought and speech of all the types. They tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies instantaneously, and can detect contradictions no matter when or where they were made. It is difficult for an Architect to listen to nonsense, even in a casual conversation, without pointing out the speaker's error. And in any serious discussion or debate Architects are devastating, their skill in framing arguments giving them an enormous advantage. Architects regard all discussions as a search for understanding, and believe their function is to eliminate inconsistencies, which can make communication with them an uncomfortable experience for many.

Ruthless pragmatists about ideas, and insatiably curious, Architects are driven to find the most efficient means to their ends, and they will learn in any manner and degree they can. They will listen to amateurs if their ideas are useful, and will ignore the experts if theirs are not. Authority derived from office, credential, or celebrity does not impress them. Architects are interested only in what makes sense, and thus only statements that are consistent and coherent carry any weight with them.

Architects often seem difficult to know. They are inclined to be shy except with close friends, and their reserve is difficult to penetrate. Able to concentrate better than any other type, they prefer to work quietly at their computers or drafting tables, and often alone. Architects also become obsessed with analysis, and this can seem to shut others out. Once caught up in a thought process, Architects close off and persevere until they comprehend the issue in all its complexity. Architects prize intelligence, and with their grand desire to grasp the structure of the universe, they can seem arrogant and may show impatience with others who have less ability, or who are less driven.
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Underlined are the parts that fit me perfectly, so basically almost all of it fits. The most valuable knowledge is knowledge of the Self.
 
ebola? said:
For instance, I, an INTP, have a tough time making sensation oriented material have sense and significance for me. For me, it's all a buncha shit that happened until there are some overarching principles.
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Is this a fancy way of saying that whenever the wife is nagging you about what color of drapes she should choose, you basically just want to tell her to get fucked?
 
I find ISTJs to be very what you see is what you get. Their ability to cut the bullshit and get right to the task is easy to respect. I don't find I get close with many. But I do have respect for them.

INTPs have a tendancy to be straight up characters, IME. :)
 
Is this a fancy way of saying that whenever the wife is nagging you about what color of drapes she should choose, you basically just want to tell her to get fucked?
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No. The major difference between "N" and "S" types is that N's are most concerned with intangible concepts, while S's are more concerned with concrete, directly perceptible phenomena. I'm not saying that either is right or wrong, and all people can navigate either. I can imagine the color of the drapes being more interesting if it is set in some sort of rationalized conceptual system of aesthetics (as if there were one).
 
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