Heroin Perparing a shot for the morning?

[ActiqAnnie]

And, in case someone is looking for further information in oxymorphone solubility, it is 1 gram of OM per 4 ml of water.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I hope this isn't too off-topic but I'm tired and rather than looking this up/figuring it out for myself, does anyone know if a pre-prepared solution of oxymorphone would degrade?

I also prep shots in advance because I shoot pills and not heroin. So the whole song and dance with the micron filter is easier to do in a batch preparation. I do use bacteriostatic water and refrigerate everything, but it seems to me that day old solution isn't nearly as potent as the fresh stuff.

You should be fine.

I haven't personally done so with oxymorphone, but it shouldn't break down in your solution.

I prepare many shots at once with buprenorphine and it works just fine.

 

[scottd420]

Yea, the thing is, water will hold a ton of heroin. A cc of water will hold only 60mg of morphine though, or 100mg of oxycodone. These chemicals become saturated. I have known of quite a few people over the years who did not put enough water in oxycodone. I watched a girl put 1 cc of water in 3 80's, and not go back for a 2nd rinse. She just left 140mg of OC in the spoon. I casually told her I was going to make a shot in the same spoon, and just added like 20mg or so, and proceeded to make sure I washed out the other 140mg. If you are drawing better shots off the "bottom" or they are varying, you may be saturating your water with oc, and the variations would be where you are pulling bits of solid oxycodone into the rig.

Not being picky here, but Annie recently reminded me that a lot of readers browse the site and just so the info is correct for would be users I'll mention this--I think you meant to say the saturation point for oxycodone is 160mg/mL, since you got it right in the second part of your explanation.
It's funny, the story about your friend proves to us just how powerful placebo can be! Since that girl would have jumped from using two to three 80s at some point, she obviously must have felt a difference so it would have been worth the switch for her; meanwhile you proved it really isn't worth it. Pretty cool how the body works, hey?

 

[hustlababy09]

Bacteria would definitely start to grow. Also, when I've tried preparing shots at night, about 1/2 the time the rig would be clogged by the morning. I don't know if it was shitty dope or what, but it didn't always work how I wanted it to.

 

[Secobarbital]

Bacteria would definitely start to grow. Also, when I've tried preparing shots at night, about 1/2 the time the rig would be clogged by the morning. I don't know if it was shitty dope or what, but it didn't always work how I wanted it to.

Bad dope, very bad dope *hit it with a paper*

 

[Secobarbital]

Not being picky here, but Annie recently reminded me that a lot of readers browse the site and just so the info is correct for would be users I'll mention this--I think you meant to say the saturation point for oxycodone is 160mg/mL, since you got it right in the second part of your explanation.
It's funny, the story about your friend proves to us just how powerful placebo can be! Since that girl would have jumped from using two to three 80s at some point, she obviously must have felt a difference so it would have been worth the switch for her; meanwhile you proved it really isn't worth it. Pretty cool how the body works, hey?

My bad, I thought it was actually 100mg/ml, but I stand corrected.

One thing that should be noted if using OM, is that any pill it comes in seems to wreak havoc on filters, and take tons of water. It might be worthwhile to do a reduction or something, because from what I've heard about the IR pills, I would probably want to run it through a back load on a larger syringe at least twice, maybe more, then go through progressively smaller micron wheel filters. Otherwise you apparently can only filter one pill with the small micron filters. This is just 2nd hand info from other posts on these forums I've never encountered these pills unfortunately. It has been said several times though so it must be relatively accurate. If you filter it progressively, and make a larger batch at once, you should be able to get decent mileage out of your filters, and have a very safe and clean solution for injection. I've been thinking about breaking down an er pill completely in water and doing this. I probably will eventually.

 

[ActiqAnnie]

Are you micron filtering? I have read that bottled water is actually LESS safe than tap. There are some PDFs and harm reduction brochures about water safety and they always advise against bottled watter if possible.

 

[ActiqAnnie]

One thing that should be noted if using OM, is that any pill it comes in seems to wreak havoc on filters, and take tons of water. It might be worthwhile to do a reduction or something, because from what I've heard about the IR pills, I would probably want to run it through a back load on a larger syringe at least twice, maybe more, then go through progressively smaller micron wheel filters. Otherwise you apparently can only filter one pill with the small micron filters.

This is absolutely true - I've whined many a time about the chore of filtering Opana IR. However, I have found a wonderful solution. Whatman GD/X filters. You can find my review for theM on the IV Products Review thread. These filters are made up of a layer of descending pore-size filters, so they do the same thing as successively filtering through multiple wheel filters. While a cotton filtered ml of oxymorphone used to clog my .22 micron, I can now filter 10ml of solution without applying any major pressure to the plunger. They're not cheap (I got a box of 50 of 'em for $167) but they kick ass!

 

[IndustrialStrength]

I've had much better luck with prepping Opana IR's than others in this thread with filters it seems.
I use the whatman brand with the built in pre-filters of differing sizes. They usually work great.
I have been able to prep them just as Captain H does in his micron mega thread.

For example the last time I encountered OM in the form of 10mg IR's I proceeded as follows.
I pre-wet a filter with sterile water using a 3ml luer lock syringe. I then loaded 3 of the pinkies (10mg Opana IR's) into a 3ml luer lock.
Next suck up enough water to break down the pills & shake. The number of units is a personal preference.
I usually use enough water that after passing through the filter I am left with approx 60-80 units. Usually closer to 80.
Basically I just try to make sure that I can get the whole dose into 1 shot if possible.
So for this example let's say one would use 1ML. So in this case suck up 1ML.
After doing so attach the pre-wetted micron filter & filter into a sterilized vessel. In my case usually a spoon.
Proceed to draw up the shot into another syringe. In my case usually 31g BD's.
As long as everything works out your left with a solution that in this case would be 30mg/ML.
In the case of most users you would want to use much less than 3 Opana IR's if you were only prepping 1 shot.
I use this as an example though to show that in my experience 3 or more can fit through a single filter.
Some users could use this information if they were prepping larger batches vs single shots.
I usually prep single shots though, as such that's the example I can give.
I've also done this with the blue 5mg IR's with just as much sucess.

Again I just wanted to mention that I have a large tolerance. Using 30mg or more of Oxymorphone per shot would be lethal otherwise.
Do not take the chemical lightly. Oxymorphone is a beast. No dicksizing or other bullshit OM can easily kill if not treated with respect.
Be sure to do so if you choose to IV Oxymorphone.

Now that I've added that warning as I felt obligated to do as IV OM is not to be taken lightly I will return to the topic at hand.
I've rarely had issues with the micron clogging & the process is relatively quick as opposed to manually pre-filtering.
With cotton or something of that nature whether sucked up normally or backloaded & filtered that way.

Regardless I just wanted to post as my experiences with the Opana IR's are quite different from the other posters.
So perhaps it is an issue involving the type of filter being used? As with the multi layered whatman's I get a clear solution using the above method.
I've also used the same method to prep multiple shots with no issues. Just used more pills & more water.

I hope that information helps someone. Perhaps trying a different brand of filter may help. Good luck & stay safe.
Figure some 1st hand information to go with your 2nd hand Secobarbital.
Good information contained in yours as well, thanks for it. It's good to know that other types/brands don't work as well!

EDIT: Beat me to it annie. Those whatman's your talking about are what I'm talking about as well.
Pricey but worth every penny! They work great, it's my go to filter of choice.

 

[hustlababy09]

Bad dope, very bad dope *hit it with a paper*

lmfao