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Perfect functional 4-AcO-XT dosage for public environments

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Malmoesoldier

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Like at work or any other social environments where you dont want to be way to high for normal conversation or work duties.

I was thinking that ca 12mg of 4-Aco-MET along with 5mg of 4-Aco-DMT could be a good dosage for this purpose (haft to note that this is the fumarate version i got my hands on).
I am thinking that the MET will give me a light trip with audio/color enhancement and a clearheaded high with euphoria coming from the 5mg DMT and that this light combo could bring some extra color and euphoria enhancements that doesn't put you on your ass on a busy day when you haft to move around alot.

What would you guys prefered dosage be for this purpose?.
 
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Please don't make a habit of shortening 4-AcO-MET to MET or anything like that. They are different drugs and it naming them interchangably is very confusing for people who are familiar with most of them.

For the same reason I thought you were actually talking about DMT in the thread title, not 4-AcO-DMT and thought: are you a businessman who is not permitted lunch breaks? Anyway I never used tryptamines this casually and think I would probably consider it a shame if I were not allowed to go into the trance-y state that compounds like 4-AcO-DMT produce.. What's wrong with tripping in the evening?

Are you just experimenting or do you have a good reason for mixing 4-AcO-DMT and 4-AcO-MET? They are quite similar but combining drugs always complicates things with interactions and that makes it less predictable to gauge doses. Probably better to stick to either one and not try to add up the dosages to make a proper judgement call...

I love tryptamines but if you don't want the potential lethargy maybe they are not ideal. Also there are more superficial psychedelics to think of that remain more functional.
 
Sorry my misstake i was going to change the topic to "Perfect functional hallucinogenic tryptamine dosage for public environments".

My understanding is that 4-aco-met gives you the strongest euphoria out of all the hallucinogenic tryptamine available. Please correct me if i am wrong. And as i say in my post, i am not looking for a full blown psychedelic experience here, i have done 5G mushrooms before etc, im looking for something more mellow and very euphoric but i am not interested in MDMA.
 
I saw the title & thought if DMT can be 'Perfect functional in public environments' there's no point in taking it in that dosage.
It's worthwhile editing the title to remove the confusion.

Sounds like you're looking for a museum level dose of tryptamines, can't advise specific dosages as how you react to 10mg of 4-AcO-DMT, say, may be very different to how I react to it. But just aim for whatevers a low or threshold dose for you.
Better off sticking to one drug too rather than mixing them, especially as it sounds from your post that you've not had experience with both on their own. I'd say it's better & safer to experience both drugs in isolation at different doses before considering combining them. That way you've got a good idea of what to expect & will know if there's some unexpected or unusual interactions.
 
I don't really think this drug class is appropriate for that purpose. All of my attempts to low-dose the 4-hydroxy tryptamine family were disappointing, not very functional but still not entertaining either. The tryptamines aren't very good stimulants, so "museum doses" can make you feel, for want of a better word, slow.
 
I have read reports that says 17-20mg of MET gives them an absurd- hedonistic trip. That the bodyhigh feels better than opiate-highs and that 15mg of MET is more intense than 30mg of 4-aco-dmt. I have also read reports that aco-dmt doses below 8 gives them a strong euphoria. So with the DMT i am just looking for what i think could be the best boost for more euphoria and colors without going way to deep and still beeing social in public environments. I think with 5-MeO-MiPT etc, that it will be harder to find your sweet spot and that many of the other drugs you could think of would make it very psychedelic and not boost the euphoria and the colors in a mellow way. But i will do experiments to find out! :)
 
^ are you referring to 4-AcO-MET or MET proper? I can't believe anyone would consider MET proper hedonistic, it's the most intense base tryptamine I've event encountered and should not be confused with its acetate ester.

If you are planning on making any further posts in this forum I suggest you brush up on your nomenclature, knowledge of moieties/functional groups, and positional isomers as well as homologs.
 
Read the first post. I am talking about 4-AcO-MET. So the word is that the body high is way more intense then opiate-highs. Have you done any MET trips in different doses?. I actually think i will start quiet high with 20mg alone before mixing it with a low dose of aco-dmt.
 
You are not referring to MET. You are reffering 4acetoxy-methyl ethyl-tryptamine. They are completely different and you should jeer confuse the two compounds. Abbreviating a 4-substituted tryptamine to its base homologs is out I line and potentially dangerous to other people that will read this thread.

I have experience both MET, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT(pscilocetin) as well as 4-AcO-MET(metocetin) I suggest you refrain from using any psychedelic you cannot properly name using Shulgins over simplified nomenclature system. It shows an intellectual disinterest in the compounds which can be correlated to irresponsibility and overall lack of discretion with psychedelics. 4-acetylated esters of the corresponding base tryptamines have a much slower onset, typically a lower dose and very highly increased oral bioavailability and duration. They are also much gentler than the corresponding base indole or indolol(indole alcohol or 4-HO substitution.
 
In post 6 you still reffered to MET and DMT, many novice psychedelic user frequent this forum and may get confused.
Use the proper names or don't bother to start a thread.
 
I read the title of this thread and thought 'a new tryptamine; I'm curious'. Read the thread and thought 'irresponsible use of abbreviations'. No offense meant OP, just my honest thoughts. Now, how much information would people get if I started referring to all drugs by a CAS #?

Tom
 
If you're going to trip at work, a low dose of one of the less-engaging phenethylamines (such as 5-10mg of 2C-C or 2C-D) would be a better idea. Low doses of tryptamines will only make you feel a bit anxious and annoyed for a few hours while you're waiting for the trip to kick in (except it never really will).
 
10-15mg 4HOMET is a social dose for me. Not on the job btw, just on a casual get-together where other people might or might not be tripping.
 
Malmoesoldier said:
Read the first post. I am talking about 4-AcO-MET. So the word is that the body high is way more intense then opiate-highs. Have you done any MET trips in different doses?. I actually think i will start quiet high with 20mg alone before mixing it with a low dose of aco-dmt.
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If you're referring to 4-Aco-MET then don't use the term 'MET' when you mean 4-AcO-MET. They are different substances with different effects and dosage levels. Confusing them in a post could mean someone reading the thread gets a mistaken idea of effects or dosage and has a bad or potentially dangerous experience.

You cant read post 6 and say that i confuse anybody when this thread is about Aco-MET and Aco-DMT
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Just because you've explained yourself in one post further up the thread doesn't mean you can misuse well understood naming conventions & abbreviations. We've got threads here that run to dozens of pages, alright this one won't but there's no guarantee that anyone is going to read the whole thread rather than just one post, or the search results for MET, etc.

For the sake of clarity & safety - and to avoid derailing the topic of the thread - please use the full abbreviation (now there's an oxymoron) for whatever substance you're referring to throughout.
 
It's like shortening 'methamphetamine' to 'amphetamine' instead of 'meth', it is very confusing and explainiing or attempting to justify doesn't help. Hopefully you get the point or I foresee a chaotic pile-up in this thread, we will have none of that.

Now we were talking about low dose tryptamines in public and even during duties and responsibilities. Off-topic stuff runs the risk of getting hidden/removed.
 
entheo said:
I suggest you refrain from using any psychedelic you cannot properly name using Shulgins over simplified nomenclature system.
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I cracked the fuck up.

also to answer your question ~15mg 4-aco-dmt could be nice in a social setting but tryptamines are more suited to introspection and personal growth in that regard IMO
 
abbreviating the abbreviation is a bad idea for clarity's sake. It's only 6 extra keystrokes or so & you won't have to deal with multiple posts haranguing you about nomenclature.

I tend to agree with the sentiment that low dose tryptamine experiences can be a bit agitating. The only exception to this, IME, is 4-HO-MET. I assume 4-AcO-MET to be similar, but i have substantially less experience with it than i do with they hydroxy.

It's also advisable to be experienced with substances before combining them. There's a lot of room for individual variance with drugs, especially so with psychedelics. The general consensus may well not be your experience at all so find out how each substance affects you individually before stacking them. Generally speaking 4-AcO-DMT is regarded as the more subjectively "deep" of the bunch. But there are plenty of people who may well disagree. The 4-sub-MET's are, IME anyway, the "lighter" of the group, with 4-sub-DET's & 4-sub-MiPT's falling somewhere in between. If i were looking for a lighter experience i'd probably just stick to 4-HO-MET personally, no sense in complicating things.

& lastly I would avoid doing most drugs at work. Too many potential bad outcomes. In all honesty i did smoke a lot of pot at work when i was a pizza delivery driver, but i'm pretty sure that was expected ;)
 
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