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MasterSplinter

MasterSplinter

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"Ill take a good bean if its Green n mean."
Not to long ago I had a ten pack of pokes I was savin...I was with an old "friend"(more like aquaintence)who we will call Paul who I normally dont get along with due to some serious selfish shit he has done to me in the past and would contine to do.

So me and my other homie Evan are chillin, drinking, and my homie "Jake" comes by with Paul.

WTF

So that caught me off guard but I didnt want to look like an asshole so Paul and I did the whole, "pretend to be friends thing" and started takin shots of Jack Daniels.


Well 6 shots in everyones tossed and someone said
"Damn I wish I had some beans right now..."

And of course my dumb drunkass is like
"I got fire pokeballs bro. We should all take one"


So everyone reaches in the bag and grabs a tiny blue pill for themselves...30 min later, everyone is rushin hard and goin on and on about how good they feel.

My friends are all having the usual deep conversations and shit, then Paul comes up and starts tellin me how good of a friend I have always been and how hes sorry he has burned me so many times..

But anyone that knows Paul knows that he is only out to help himself and uses all his friends for his own gain. I was smart enough to know that it was jus the E talkin out of him.

I was in a deep roll...I was being open and honest with everyone else...I wanted to feel compassion for my friend and return with a nice compliment..

But I just couldnt do it. There was nothing nice to say and not even E could make me bullshit something nice. I gave that fool 1000 chances and everytime we would pretend to be friends again he would just burn again.

I just dont trust the motherfucker...and my friend Jake was saying that Paul was talking mad shit on me the next day for not giving him another pill...and that Im the "same old MasterSplinter" as when we stopped bein friends.

But I honestly stopped being friends with him cause he was eating way too many beans, then he went and got my girl addicted to meth and sent to rehab, and was using constant pitty to be dragging me down a bad whole and finally he eneded up stealing $900 from my checking account from me AND sold my PS3 on craigslist without telling me and jet for 6 months.

Then i found out he and my girlfriend had been fucking since she started doing meth.



Long story short, Im just wondering if anyone else has found that even under the infulence of E some people are excellent liars and will say anything to get that person to trust them at the time? I know it can make you more honest and open too, but I just hate when people lie to me while they are rollin cause they are just high.

it sucks when people say shit they dont mean on ecstasy...I think sometimes it makes certain people fake. :|

I never say shit I dont mean...If I dont like the person all the ecstasy in the world wont change that...
 
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Wow... Paul sure sounds like an asshole. The only way I'm able to lie while rolling is when I feel it's absolutely necessary, maybe the bean made him feel too guilty to be around you without apologizing for all the shit he's done, even if he didn't mean it.
 
I would say he may have felt a little awkward hanging out with you after all he had done and to ease it a bit came up with that bullshit and the E made it easy for him. people lie all the time and with drugs its even easier for them to do so for obvious reasons. Tell Jake to leave dickhead Paul at home from now on.
 
I don't know the guy, but it is possible that he really did want to apologize for all the things he has done. That may be the only time he felt it, but it could still have been sincere at that moment. Of course it's also possible that he didn't mean anything he said. Either way he doesn't sound like somebody I'd want to hang out with.
 
I wouldn't call MDMA fake, MDMA just opens your mind to new experiences. How a particular person behaves during the MDMA experience, largely depends on his own personality.

If a person is an asshole in every day life, taking MDMA is not going to turn him into a nice guy. He might act loved up and a little more empathic, but that's just the drugs talking.

To get the most out of the MDMA experience, I try and drop only with really close friends. This allows us to connect on a whole different level because we are already so close and we trust each other.

Like with any drug, with MDMA you have to think about set and setting. MDMA is not some magic bullet that turns everyone into kind and caring people. It's best to do MDMA with people who are kind and caring even without the drugs, then the whole MDMA experience turns into a trip to heaven. :)
 
and what was jakes response to paul when he was talking mad shit? did he defend you? sounds like jake is playing both sides of the fence and is no good as well.

and you don't have the balls to stand up to paul.
 
I have a friend very similar, always in for him self. We call him the schemer, because we always know he schemes plans in his head to gain something for him self. Which is absolutely true, morale of my useless comment. Call your faggot friend, the schemer.
 
schwiftee said:
and what was jakes response to paul when he was talking mad shit? did he defend you? sounds like jake is playing both sides of the fence and is no good as well.

and you don't have the balls to stand up to paul.
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None of us totally trust Jake either since hes been involved in some shady shit too...

I guess now that I think about it its sort of strange....I like to think that people dont talk or plot against me behind my back but I guess thats just reality...

Ive never been a paranoid person and Ive never touched meth because ive witnessed how much damaged its done to people around me...I dont even really roll much anymore to be honest because thats damaged me enough...

And as far as "standing up to Paul" goes I dont need any physical confrontation. Last time we fought it ended with him smashing my $300 midi controller into the wall, snapping my laptop in half, and me retaliating by cracking a bottle of skyy vodka into his face.

my friends had to pull me off him and calm me down before I beat him to the ground...

I had never been so angry...and my mdma induced brain was disgusted at my display of violence, so Ive since vowed not to display my rage ever again in such ways..

I dunno..Im just pissed that some people are "genuinely" bad.
 
^ no I meant dont allow him to be around. if its your place tell him to go or better yet dont let him in, jake too. and just leave if you encounter him elsewhere. if he needs an answer you need your cash as well as compensation dor the items of yours. as simeple as that.

maybe theres some dsort of social pressure thats keeping those 2 around that your not standing up too is kind of what I meant.
 
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Some people just aren't nice people, wether its from the environment they've grown up in or through experiences, or they're just bitter people.

I don't know how people do it myself, he sounds like a complete dick who is only out to help himself.

The speech from him was probably just him having to talk (I'm talking unless I'm rushing too hard, or dancing when I'm up) and the empathy from the MDMA coming out, either way, you're better off without people like that around you.
 
Hey MasterSpinter, I know exactly what you mean.

I was on holiday a few months ago with somebody that I would class a 'best friend' really messed me around (leaving me alone when I really needed somebody[k hole]) ignoring me for a few days etc.

We had all had at least .4 / 400mgs MDMA the night before but their actions just highlighted how bad a person they were! MDMA dose not and will not automatically make you a nice person.
 
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Yeh sorry to hear that Bear..


Honestly I just always here about how MDMA can make friends of enemys and breaks down barriers and causes us all to love one another...

And its not true for me and obviously some other people. I dont express emotions I dont mean...but I know alot of others who will pretend to be my friend or tell me they like me when they really dont only to fill there own ego because the ecstasy is causing them to rush so hard.

I think its selfish to use people like that.. :\
 
Sorry to go a tad off topic.

But if you smashed me in the side of the head with a bottle of vodka, i sure as hell wouldn't come back and roll with you...Why did that guy? :s
 
Cause from what I've read, he uses people. Much like he's used MasterSplinter here (obviously for free drugs I guess).

Bear, that sucks. Leaving somebody in a k-hole is NOT the right way to show your friendship at all...
 
yeah, when u smash someone in the face with a bottle of a decent brand of voldka, your sending them a pretty big, clear messege. and It is one of dont come back, or maybe your face will get smashed by a bottle of vodka.
 
MasterSplinter said:
Yeh sorry to hear that Bear..


Honestly I just always here about how MDMA can make friends of enemys and breaks down barriers and causes us all to love one another...

And its not true for me and obviously some other people. I dont express emotions I dont mean...but I know alot of others who will pretend to be my friend or tell me they like me when they really dont only to fill there own ego because the ecstasy is causing them to rush so hard.

I think its selfish to use people like that.. :\
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illuz1oN said:
Cause from what I've read, he uses people. Much like he's used MasterSplinter here (obviously for free drugs I guess).

Bear, that sucks. Leaving somebody in a k-hole is NOT the right way to show your
friendship at all...
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I know what you all mean - after my last holiday with my so called 'friends' I cut all contact with them and havent spoke to them since.

I could have 'quite easily' been robbed, raped or worse -my 'friends' were more interested in how they felt!
 
I think no matter what drugs you experience, you still are who you are at the end of it- in any drug experience, the ultimate factor is you.

With that said, I don't fond anything "fake" about the MDMA experience, MDMA has made me and my brother genuinely closer (we haven't rolled in 5 months, we are still just as close and comfortable), it's allowed me to get out of a 7+ year destructive relationship (again, not while high, but MDMA gave me the clarity to realize what I needed to do, and the confident mind set while sober), and it got me into a relationship with someone who treats me wonderfully who I was friends with for 9 years and didn't realize was perfect (duhhhh :)).

Though my MDMA experiences are meaningful, and yours may have been too- I still meet dicks every week on E. I've had guys try to sexually assault me at clubs while they were rolling, say mean stuff to my boyfriend, try to steal stuff etc. It's not a negative testament to MDMA, it's more an example of how pathetic some people are.
 
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