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People and relationships are like trading stocks

I hold great affection for great ideas and even better conversation.

Relationships are not like trading stocks in my opinion.
 
alasdairm said:
your logic is seriously flawed. he could worship nothing.

alasdair
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" A man who won’t believe in God will believe in anything."

or

" When a Man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything."

Sometimes they worship their son, their wives, other times they worship their car, they wash it slowly with specially selected ingredients they bought from Wall Mart, such as detailer, wax coating, invisible glass, and the list goes on. I doubt any of you wash your wives with that much attention, not to mention yourselves. If this isn't worship, what is?

One morning they wake up open the Tv, and they like the feeling so they grab a duster and remove dust from the TV, get some Windex and clean the TV you know. Other times it's a pet. A Maltese dog. "Little cute pie." They amaze at how gifted the dog is, and how many things the dog can do so they worship the dog. They nag and nag the dog so much that if the dog was all mighty God, they must have killed the poor fellow by now. Many women even give up their boyfriend rights in order to be with a dog. A large dog. It offers protection, warmth at night. In return they offer...I can't even get myself to say this.

I mean, is this the life that you propose we adopt? Just checking. Brother, I give you references. Quotes. So far you haven't given me any reference.
 
Is this a discussion? or is this a sermon?

Being fanatical in your views is fine, but never assume your idea of a way to live is the only way.

The irony of your approach escapes the grasp of your superior intellect and worldview I suppose.

:|
 
Ksa said:
No? Why are you narcissistic? You don't worship a God, person or thing, all you're left with is yourself.
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speak for yourself

having love for oneself is different from narcissism in an obvious yet subtle way.

if you dont love yourself then why should i love you?

in life everything is lead by example behaviour wise
 
pofacedhoe said:
speak for yourself

having love for oneself is different from narcissism in an obvious yet subtle way.

if you dont love yourself then why should i love you?

in life everything is lead by example behaviour wise
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Not that subtle, in order to fall in love with yourself you not only have to love yourself, you also have to be gay. People misinterpret my sayings, I never said one should prefer himself for partner I said one should prefer his female version. Meaning that if we clone you and at the time the cells divide we make you female, you two should get along better then with another female who's different from you and shares not your views and habits.

Look at Bon Jovi's wife, she's ugly in the same way as him, (big jaw etc.) but he thinks she's ideal!
 
Ksa said:
" A man who won’t believe in God will believe in anything."

or

" When a Man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything."
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i am sorry but your quotes do nothing - they only support your argument if you choose to accept their premise (which i do not).

your argument is simple - if one does not worship god, a person or a thing, you have to worship yourself. that's a false dilemma. you can worship nothing.

but you seem to think that words in italics and quotes somehow carry more weight so here you go: "to have faith is to be a slave. we can only be truly free when we cease to worship."

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
i am sorry but your quotes do nothing - they only support your argument if you choose to accept their premise (which i do not).

your argument is simple - if one does not worship god, a person or a thing, you have to worship yourself. that's a false dilemma. you can worship nothing.

but you seem to think that words in italics and quotes somehow carry more weight so here you go: "to have faith is to be a slave. we can only be truly free when we cease to worship."

alasdair
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The things you own, end up owning you. My grandma was a slave to her house, she would eat less and save money to fancy it's exterior, so that her neighbors would think highly of her. She died young without even profiting from it adequately and every single neighbor hated her guts.

Your mind is working against you. It's preventing you from reaching from within, in it's interior, and find the true joy. Your joy is electrically insulated by a barrier forbidden to be trespassed, until you manage to do it and realize nothing bad happens.

˅ why am I reminded of a verse in SURAH AL BAQARAH :D
 
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the things you own only end up owning you if you allow the things you own to own you.

maybe my mind is working fine and it's your mind that's working against you?

why am i reminded of:



alasdair
 
Norf said:
I think you're looking at it backwards. You're looking at it as a business man trying to relate what you see with relationships to the marketplace. Your analogy to trading only works in certain respects. Value of stocks and partners both do increase and decrease, and partners do pay dividends of sorts, you're right, but you have to stretch to make the deeper comparisons. Partners are not traded on trading floors as if they were slaves. Investing in a partner requires you to invest emotionally as well as financially. There are many values to partners that stocks do not have... You have sex with partners... You can get a partner pregnant and start a family. Your comparison works in certain, limited respects, but fails in other regards. To try to make relationships sound as hollow and cold as the marketplace based on an imperfect comparison is fallacious.
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Yes, they are traded in everyday life on different venues, like clubs, bars, street, even the fucking library...Guys call dudes to hang out and go try hook up and your best girl friend tries to set up you regularly with her (albeit not so attractive) friend

Yes, we invest both financially and emotionally, thus the complexity of valuation of these two together.

Family and reproduction are just a byproduct of the stock and their value will ultimately depend on the quality of the partner. Choose an ugly one and bet what you're going to get? Choose a stupid one to educate your child and guess what you get? Choose a low sex drive female and guess what kind of lifestyle you're going to have?

Comparison does work in all cases, it's the perfect model of social relationships. Only issues are of technical nature, how to assign a "number" to valuations with a certain margin of error given that different people also weight qualities differently and that qualities might change over time...
 
i have found, in life, that one tends to reap what one sows.

while you're obviously free to view life anyway you like but if you clinically view people as commodities to be bought on sold based on the return on your investment, don't be surprised when somebody dumps you because your stock looks like shit.

alasdair
 
laVoix said:
Family and reproduction are just a byproduct of the stock and their value will ultimately depend on the quality of the partner. Choose an ugly one and bet what you're going to get? Choose a stupid one to educate your child and guess what you get? Choose a low sex drive female and guess what kind of lifestyle you're going to have?
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Just look at how much you have to bend words to make this work. Ok, I agree with you-- They are exactly the same if you make a bunch of vague parallels between human behavior and market behavior. Thing is though, it's asinine to pretend that because you can draw similarities between two things that they are in fact the same thing.

It seems like you're deadset on looking at life like a misanthrope though so think what you want...
 
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