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Penis Envy vs. Golden Teacher

I assume you're lucky then? Or sometimes? :) Pretty nice..

Personally don't expect to be returning to Cubensis any time soon, if I pick up growing in fall or winter it will probably be edibles. Although maybe some psychedelic truffles, never tried growing those.. I wonder if there are leucistic ('albino') truffles hehe? never heard of them but I wonder if there's really pigmentation in sclerotia anyway for that to make sense..
 
Solipsis said:
I assume you're lucky then? Or sometimes? :) Pretty nice..

Personally don't expect to be returning to Cubensis any time soon, if I pick up growing in fall or winter it will probably be edibles. Although maybe some psychedelic truffles, never tried growing those.. I wonder if there are leucistic ('albino') truffles hehe? never heard of them but I wonder if there's really pigmentation in sclerotia anyway for that to make sense..
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Not anymore, but now I'm off the opiates I may pick it up again.. I need some kind of spice in my life! :D

Cubes age the obvious choice to grow here for your average grower. It's real easy, and by boosting the mycelium with coco coir it's easy to grow a years stash for me and my mates in a couple of months. Libs or cyans, I wouldn't know where to start! :)
 
How does coco coir boost the mycelium exactly? What does it offer?

Yeah Cubensis is 'the' shroom everywhere, both to consume and to grow.. ;) I've had fun with it but the last time I had a crop I had far too little use for it. And now my dad doesn't really wanna cooperate anymore with psychoactives, and I got my martha and my better glovebox at his place..
 
Solipsis said:
How does coco coir boost the mycelium exactly? What does it offer?
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What you do is set the spores on the substrate provided with a normal grow kit (good for ~250g mushies). You need to do this because that substrate is sterile, so won't contaminate the mycelium. Then, after a couple of weeks when the mycelium is good and established, you transfer it to a much bigger block of coir that's been soaked in boiled water. Because the mycelium is established, it'll fight off any possible infection from other mould that might be present in the coir. The boiling water helps sterilise it too. You then put the block back in the dark, and the mycelium continues to grow, much much bigger. After another few weeks, show it some light and watch it fruit. I got over 3 kilos fresh doing things that way the last time I grew. :)
 
If coco coir is mostly inert (the cellulose / lignin are I believe not suitable substrates), how do you actually boost anything with it, since as far as I know your yield depends on your mycelium exhausting the substrate you provide.

Best guess I'd venture is that this is basically "spawning to bulk" but instead of adding more substrate to colonize to actually boost returns, you don't - you just increase volume... upside to that is that during this phase your mycelium doesn't have to compete with other fungi or bacteria for extra substrate, because the coco coir is not that.

So in total yield I don't see how there is an actual boost..

One of the few times I had serious contaminations was with a grow kit, the only one I ever bought... so I prefer to just all do it myself I guess, it's more work but kits just cost too much for me.
 
Solipsis said:
If coco coir is mostly inert (the cellulose / lignin are I believe not suitable substrates), how do you actually boost anything with it, since as far as I know your yield depends on your mycelium exhausting the substrate you provide.

Best guess I'd venture is that this is basically "spawning to bulk" but instead of adding more substrate to colonize to actually boost returns, you don't - you just increase volume... upside to that is that during this phase your mycelium doesn't have to compete with other fungi or bacteria for extra substrate, because the coco coir is not that.
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Coir is just the hair off coconuts, so it doesn't have much nutritional value I would imagine. But it's enough for the mycelium. Maybe you're right, it just offers the mycelium a chance to spread it's wings. I know nothing of the biology behind it. But it works a treat, whatever the reason. :)
 
Lol?... what makes no sense is you think genetic variations cant vary in potency.. biggest factor is your grow however much like apples their all apples but different ones vary phytonutrients and sugars quite a bit thats more uniform with others of its variation.
 
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Golden Teachers are the mushrooms which are usually available to me. They're average quality and average price. I usually dose 2.5g of them.
I now have access to (regular) Penis Envy, but I'm not sure if they're worth the price. The PE are 1.4x the price of the GT. Some sources claim up to 2x the potency of other P. Cubensis mushrooms, but some say they're roughly the same potency. I know that every mushroom differs, but is there a good estimate out there for a comparison of potency? I would also prefer to hear from those with experience taking Penis Envy.
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I am very familiar with both of those and I can confirm the Penis Envy's are way stronger than the golden teachers. I micro dose and I have to be really careful with the penis envy ones.
 
i see some people saying shrooms are shrooms...

idk if albino means they are strong. i've had some regular feeling albino ones, but have indentified some as penis envy and albino penis envy and those were definitely more potent.

i know it depends on how you grow them, but there is a lot of people on the net saying penis envy is strong.. i know reddit is often wrong, but that's the general consensus there are this point.
 
i think a lot of times PE and albino ones will grow stronger, but they can also be weak if not grown well.

so like if someone is growing good shrooms and they have a selection, the PE will probably be the strongest if from the same type of grow. like they can grow to be less potent if not grown well, but they will generally be stronger than most other shrooms grown in the same conditions... this is what i'm guessing from all i heard and why people are getting different opinions about this.
 
This is an argument that's lost meaning in the last 5 years.
P. Ochraceocentrata makes PE a limp dick. Way stronger and less body load.
But if you really want to trip, Panaeolus Subbalteatus (TTBVI ) verges on a DMT experience.
As far as Cubes go, Tidalwave is as strong as PE but not a fussy prick to grow with low yields.
 
Certainly back in 2004 when shrooms were legal in the uk you had sellers comparing different strains of cubensis as having different effects - I never noticed any difference after eating 20 kilos of various strains. Even the sclerotica were the same really.
 
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